Warning All Churches [Homosexual infiltration]

Worldview Weekend ^ | October 27, 2013 | Ken Ham

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Over this year, there have been a number of news reports on another movement in the church advocating for the acceptance of homosexual behavior and same-sex relationships. Matthew Vines, an openly homosexual 23-year-old student at Harvard University, posted a video on YouTube of a speech he gave on homosexuality and the Bible. In the talk, he claims repeatedly that God’s Word does not condemn monogamous same-sex relationships.

Now, a recent report from the Christian Post highlighted the amount of compromise happening within the church on this issue. The headline of the article explains, " 50 ‘Hand-Picked’ Christians Trained To Convince Churches To Re-Interpret Scripture’s Gay Boundaries.” Vines apparently hosted a training conference recently in his home state of Kansas for Christians who want to convince their churches to accept same-sex relationships.

[papertyger]

Now I’ve just realized I’ve wasted over an hour with a nonsensical discussion with someone who doesn’t recognize Scripture as authoritative, so ....we have no common ground on which to continue and frankly I have better things to do than continue this silly, pointless debate that’s going nowhere.

Oh I have no problem stating categorically that Scripture is authoritative, just not Protestant interpretation of it is authoritative. And apparently, you are going to do like all Protestants when challenged on their own turf: declare victory, and run away.

[CityCenter]

If you came to my church, we would welcome you too, sinner that you are.

[Old Yeller]

Don’t forget transubstantiation.

[CynicalBear]

Wow! All the same posts in thread after thread. The vastness of you portfolio is astounding! And the depth of study is amazing! Have you ever thought of public speaking tours?

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That’s not the answer to my question, but you probably already knew that.

[CityCenter]

Actually, it is. Like I said, all sinners are welcome there would be no church otherwise. And there is no church that exists that includes people who do not sin. Ebdorsement of sin through weakening scripture, doctrine, and teaching is another thing altogether. My church requires that people conform themselves to what Jesus and the Bible teaches.

[AppyPappy]

“My church requires that people conform themselves to what Jesus and the Bible teaches.”

Are you sure? Or should they conform to what your church teaches?

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My church requires that people conform themselves to what Jesus and the Bible teaches.

So, your all-inclusive statement was false. You don't include in the life of the church those who rebelliously refuse to conform themselves to what Jesus and the Bible teaches, or outright unbelievers.

If you did, I'd never darken the door of your "church." It wouldn't be any different from a UU club.

[ReformationFan]

I would challenge Mr. Vines to prove that the original recipients of the books of the Bible who lived during the eras of the Old and New Testaments would’ve thought that the books taught that homosexual behavior was OK. Of course, that would be ridiculous. I have more intellectual respect for non-believers who reject the Bible as the word of God but concede that it teaches that homosexual behavior is sinful than I do for the likes of Mr. Vines and his fellow false teachers with their heretical and ahistorical teaching.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

The Synagogue of Sodomy and Church of the Stinky Donut Hole is the religious faggotry of the left...

“When the fairies are displeased with anybody, they are said to send their elves to pinch them. The ecclesiastics, when they are displeased with any civil state, make also their elves, that is, superstitious, enchanted subjects, to pinch their princes, by preaching sedition; or one prince, enchanted with promises, to pinch another.”

Thomas Hobbes. Leviathan, 1651.