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China Scrambles Jets as US and Japan Enter Air Zone
AP via Telegraph ^ | Friday, November 29, 2013

Posted on 11/29/2013 6:22:47 AM PST by kristinn

Chinese state media say China has sent two fighter planes to investigate flights by a dozen U.S. and Japanese planes in its newly established maritime air defence zone over the East China Sea.

It is thought the incident is separate to China's announcement that it would carry out regular patrols in its air zone.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Japan; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: adiz; china; japan; republicofkorea; scramble; waronterror
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To: rbg81
It is simply not in our national interest to offshore so much technology production—especially to potential adversaries. All thought the Cold War, we had very strict laws about technology export and realized the need for an industrial base. After the Cold War, we got complacent, greedy, and stupid—with emphasis on the stupid.

Agree.

21 posted on 11/29/2013 7:28:16 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rbg81

RE: We should. The sun would still rise in the morning, but a lot of other potential problems would be solved.

Well, I hope you will be happy paying several times more for the products you use today because that is essentially going to happen when we write a law banning off shoring of American products.


22 posted on 11/29/2013 7:30:18 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: nathanbedford

We are running out of time. At some point the Dragon will throw down. When the fist container ship goes down the Free Trade GloBULL BS ends. I hope I see it - soon. I will be ROTFLOL when the inevitable happens.


23 posted on 11/29/2013 7:33:12 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Again for possible penetration, tariff is not a four letter word.


24 posted on 11/29/2013 7:34:32 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I agree with you.

People, wake up,


25 posted on 11/29/2013 7:37:15 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Oh, the todays of green molding sand, grit under your nails, "feeds and speeds" - even glass scales on a Bridgeport knee-mill was sexy. Very tearful here.

Moving on to 5-axis (and beyond) machining, that CNC stuff and their cutting speeds around the curves - very smooth as blades through water can easily make bubbles ... very bad.

Just pause, however, and ask "Just where is the workforce, a trained workforce, to populate these "returned" factories? And just who will be training these people?

Just askin' - as the seed corn has been eaten, and as with shipping your backlog, you only get to do that once.

There is no going back.

26 posted on 11/29/2013 7:48:04 AM PST by jamaksin
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To: nathanbedford

Very well said.

This so called “free” trade has also virtually ruined many communities and entire small towns. I’ve seen this myself first hand. We have areas FULL of closed down factories and businesses that stand as monuments to this insane and failed trade policy.

People here that would have otherwise worked are now in the ranks of the FSA(Free Shit Army). ‘Food Stamp’ use has increased by 20-35% since the year 2000 in ours and surrounding counties. Most of the younger people move away immediately after high school. My wife and I would have too, if we hadn’t managed to find good paying jobs here, which are very few. Our ‘social safety net’ has prevented outrage over this by the victims of it as the welfare benefits have masked the pain and reality of it all. If it weren’t for that, we would have had people in the streets with torches and pitchforks demanding a stop to it long ago.


27 posted on 11/29/2013 7:50:23 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: central_va

RE: Again for possible penetration, tariff is not a four letter word.

Been there done that. See here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/642710/posts

About 10 years ago, Bush Jr. Imposed tariffs on IMPORTED STEEL to protect steel making jobs in America ( who found it hard to compete against steel makers overseas ).

According to Prof. Walter Williams, looking in hindsight:

It is estimated that it costs Americans something like $800,000 a year to save a $55,000-a-year job. Does that make any kind of sense whatsoever? It doesn’t. It would be better — I would much rather see Congress enact an Aid to Dependant Steel Workers Act or an Aid to Dependant Textile Workers Act and give them — let’s say in the case of steel people — give them $75,000. Say, “Just go lay out on the beach and enjoy yourself.” That would be cheaper than $800,000 to save one job.

It also disrupted the businesses steel USING companies in the USA making it difficult for THEM to compete. RESULT: They had to pay higher prices for the steel they used ( and had to layoff workers as well ).

Guess what happened in the end? The policy was so disastrous that the tariff was REPEALED after over a year.


28 posted on 11/29/2013 7:51:22 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: kristinn

So far, one comment about the article.
I’d like to hear a little feed back on the scrambled jets.


29 posted on 11/29/2013 8:02:19 AM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: SeekAndFind

Since 90% of manufacturing is done by NON UNION workers, the tariffs mostly protect average Americans that make meager wages. The cost saving of using foreign slave labor is not passed on the consumer. It is a lose-lose situation for the middle and lower economic people in the USA. Every factory that closes creates more socialists and weakens the US and is a tragedy. Free Traitors are worse then the most leftist Commie, more damaging the Reid, Pelosi and Obama. They are backstabbing economic terrorists.


30 posted on 11/29/2013 8:05:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: KoRn
Free Traders = Economic terrorists

"Free Trade" has done more damage to the USA than any other enemy.

31 posted on 11/29/2013 8:08:05 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

People as you’re shopping in the coming month:

Randomly pick 5 things to check, when you are in (any) store, in (any) town, shopping for anything.

Pick that item up, turn it over, and look at where it was made.

That the the nation, you are supporting with your purchase.


32 posted on 11/29/2013 8:10:58 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: KoRn
Communities built around small to medium sized manufacturing plants are the heart of wealth creation in American.. Every factory that shuts down devastates that community just as bad as if the Luftwaffe came over and bombed the place....

Granted a lot of manufacturing towns are democrat hotbeds. But there where a lot of republicans mixed in. You go to what's left of a region with no manufacturing supporting them and they are ALL SOCIALSTS now, on the dole. Sad. I hate "Free Trade".

33 posted on 11/29/2013 8:14:33 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: kristinn
Chinese state media say China has sent two fighter planes to investigate flights by a dozen U.S. and Japanese planes in its newly established maritime air defence zone over the East China Sea.

I didn't know the AP was officially charged with recognizing China's claim.

34 posted on 11/29/2013 8:14:48 AM PST by Carry_Okie ("Single payer" is Medicaid for all; they'll pull the sheet over your head, and then take your house.)
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To: SeekAndFind
And how exactly do we do that short of outlawing establishing American owned factories overseas?

Institute a massive layoff in American regulatory agencies.

35 posted on 11/29/2013 8:16:00 AM PST by Carry_Okie ("Single payer" is Medicaid for all; they'll pull the sheet over your head, and then take your house.)
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To: jamaksin
Just pause, however, and ask "Just where is the workforce, a trained workforce, to populate these "returned" factories? And just who will be training these people?

The military is our best labor pool. Factories made to be exported to third world countries can be brought back. It is a matter of willingness.

There is no going back.

There is going forward.

36 posted on 11/29/2013 8:21:14 AM PST by Carry_Okie ("Single payer" is Medicaid for all; they'll pull the sheet over your head, and then take your house.)
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To: Carry_Okie

How exactly does a pair of Chinese fighters scare away 10 Japanese fighters and 2 American surveillance planes?


37 posted on 11/29/2013 8:31:11 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Get the FedGov out of our way and we’ll be able to compete again.


38 posted on 11/29/2013 8:32:48 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Tai_Chung
How exactly does a pair of Chinese fighters scare away 10 Japanese fighters and 2 American surveillance planes?

All of these actions are representative of capabilities with a sublayer indicating tactical capabilities. None of that will be transparent.

39 posted on 11/29/2013 9:02:25 AM PST by Carry_Okie ("Single payer" is Medicaid for all; they'll pull the sheet over your head, and then take your house.)
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To: kristinn
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it

40 posted on 11/29/2013 9:04:57 AM PST by Bobalu (White Boy Think A Lot)
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