Posted on 12/06/2013 11:09:38 AM PST by vg0va3
There is a local connection to a national effort aimed at amending the U.S. Constitution through the convention process..
Amending the Constitution is not an easy task. It requires either a two-thirds vote by both the U.S. House of Representatives and the Senate; or, a national convention requested by two-thirds – 34 – of the 50 states.
The Arizona Legislature adopted a resolution in 2012 calling for a nat,
What do these lawmakers want to change?
A website that lists all of the state legislators involved in the effort points to re-establishing federalism and limiting the growth of the federal government.
“The Caucus believes an Article V convention is the most efficacious means of meeting our goals, and will encourage the States to adopt resolutions to call for such a convention. But we also believe that a convention is only the means to that end, and will always keep a focus on the goal of federalism and limited-government,” as stated on that website at www.articlevcaucus.com.
Empowering the states and re-establishing federalism may be one way to stop the federal government from spending money, but we can’t help but think it is also a path toward the elimination of civil rights, workplace protections, enforcement of food and drug standards, interstate commerce, and a few other huge responsibilities that more than 200 years as a nation have already taught us are a necessary role for the federal government.
Once again, instead of solving local problems – and Arizona has plenty of them – our state lawmakers feel it is their duty to take on the federal government to “save us” from the evils of Washington.
A grand distraction that promises to have limited effectiveness, if any, in helping the people
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I welcome communist states bringing their favorite amendments to a COS... feel free to bring on, for example, abolition of the 2nd amendment, etc.
First off, this is not a general COS, but has a specific subject. To be counted in the 34 states required, they have to live within the confines of the COS “call” - limiting the federal govt.
And, even if there were amendments from the progressives... there are 30 states, presumably ALL on board of the original COS intent, going to Mount Vernon tomorrow. The progressives will have to amass many more states than the limited-federal-government types will.
Idiots. The Con-con is designed to save us form the federal government.
I’ve said from the beginning that Article V is an Ace for conservatives and is a nose for liberals. They don’t stand a chance to use Article V to their advantage unless they buy off 34 state legislatures; not going to happen.
nose=noose
Now that they’re going for the throat they’re revealing their true intentions.
We’ll be able to tell how well the convention of states strategy is working by how much bullshit the Left starts slinging.
I expect to see comparisons to the old Confederacy, charges of genocide against the poor and reports of amendments mandating lynching before long.
“...but we can’t help but think it is also a path toward the elimination of civil rights, workplace protections, enforcement of food and drug standards, interstate commerce, and a few other huge responsibilities that more than 200 years as a nation have already taught us are a necessary role for the federal government.”
Apart from (arguably) the civil rights protections, nothing else championed for retention by the progressives and socialists are within the enumerated powers of the Constitution, as it stands. If these gasbags of the left want to enshrine their damnable EPA, Depts of Education, Agriculture, Energy, and on and on and on, they should get on board the convention train.
Hear hear.
This is the best way I know to have the second amendment repealed.
Thank you for referencing that article vg0va3. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.
To begin with, just as with states like Oklahoma, I used to admire Arizona’s stand for 10th Amendment-protected state sovereignty. But as I learned more about Constitution-ignoring Sen. John McCain, I have come to the conclusion that Arizona’s left hand doesn’t know what its right hand is doing.
Next, the Constitution doesn’t need to be amended imo; if it’s not broke then don’t fix it. The real problem with the Constitution is that many generations of parents have failed to make sure that their children are taught why the Founding States made the Constitution in the first place, to deliberately limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers. And as a consequence of widespread ignorance of the federal government’s constitutonally limited powers, the corrupt federal government has gotten away with expanding its powers without the required consent of the Constitution’s Article V state majority.
That being said, if some “patriots” feel that they “just gotta” amend the Constitution, I would support amending it to give the states the power to recall Constitution-ignoring federal lawmakers, executives and justices.
But recall power would only amount to a safety net for the following reason. If patriots get low-information voters up to speed on the federal government’s constitutionally-limited powers, then voters would probably lose interest in federal government anyway. This is because, in times of peace, one of the few powers that Congress has to regulate intrastate commerce is to manage US Mail services, such powers evidenced by the Constitution’s Clause 7 of Section 8 of Article I. For nearly all other “government” services, voters need to work with their state lawmakers for solutions, not the federal government.
To any Arizona freepers interested in submitting a rebuttal column or letter to the Nogales International editor, freepmail me for food-for-thought material.
FWIW, here is a letter to my local editor supporting repeal of the 17th amendment.
It’s a leftist reflexive knee jerk assumption that the federal government is all that prevents the states from reimplementing segregation.
Most believe this, and a lot also know that this is the most effective weapon to discredit any states’ rights momentum.
My wife and I just got back from a visit to Hoover Dam. We traveled on the Interstate Highway system to get there and back. As I thought about it, it seemed to me that the federal government can get two things right:
1) Things that are made to last,
2) Things that obey the laws of thermodynamics.
Dept of Education works against both, as do EPA, Health and Human Services, and most other agencies. Wind and solar still can’t beat the thermodynamics thingy. Homeland Security? Please... The govt should not be allowed to toss away money on them.
Defense seems to be an enumerated role for the feds, but lately, like since Korea, I’m not so sure they are up to it.
My socialist acquaintances love to point at the highway system as ‘socialistic,’ and evidence that the federal govt is a wonderful thing. Straw man.
If one can measure the effectiveness of a movement by the howling of its enemies, check out this from the Daily Kos.
Folks, the Left recognizes the threat we pose. With Article V we can go around the institutions locked down by the Left. If you haven't, take a few minutes to contact your state rep/senator to express your support. Find out if your state assigned someone to attend tomorrow's Mount Vernon Assembly. Isn't it the very least every freeper can do?
“... to have the second amendment repealed...”
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Get a grip and educate yourself.
According to what I heard on Mark Levin’s show, a preliminary meeting of interested state legislators from various states will take place this weekend at Mount Vernon, VA, to discuss the possibilities of calling for a convention of the states to amend the Constitution, pursuant to Article V.
If such a convention comes to fruition, it will be the first one in the nation’s history.
They always want to use fear. There is no way 34 states would do away with civil rights. We want our liberty back. We are becoming slaves to a useless bloated government. I am praying headway is made Saturday!
Bitter clingers— always clinging to their government god and social justice baton.
Keep me posted if you hear more about this.
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