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Police shoot dog in St. Clair Shores after complaints about excessive barking
wxyz.com (an ABC news affiliate) ^ | 12/05/2013 | Kim Russell

Posted on 12/09/2013 2:50:44 PM PST by Leaning Right

SAINT CLAIR SHORES, Mich. (WXYZ) - "Friendly, loveable, playful,” said Brittany Preston as she described her dog Lexie. “She was just my puppy."

Preston says she left her dog with her Grandpa at his home in Saint Clair Shores, went to work overnight, came home, and the dog was dead.

She says Grandpa has mild dementia and forgot he let the dog out. The dog started barking. Between the hours of 3:00 and 7:00 a.m. several neighbors sick of the noise called police.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: dog; police; shoot
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The police said that the barking dog charged them, so they were forced to shoot. The dog was hit eight times.

Maybe this was a justified shooting. But I am curious about something. Most English policemen are armed only with a short club. How do English cops handle loud, charging dogs?

Do they simply run away? Or do they club the dogs to death? Or do they keep calm and just handle the situation?

1 posted on 12/09/2013 2:50:44 PM PST by Leaning Right
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Apparently we don't have animal control officers any more.

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2 posted on 12/09/2013 2:52:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

ping


3 posted on 12/09/2013 2:53:51 PM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: Leaning Right
You get a fat mail man to kidnap it.


4 posted on 12/09/2013 2:55:30 PM PST by thetallguy24
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To: Leaning Right

Why send the trigger happy swat wannabes instead of animal control? Is shooting the only way cops have of dealing with a dog? First they start shooting dogs for “barking”, next they will shoot people for talking back to them.


5 posted on 12/09/2013 2:57:27 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Woof-Woof


6 posted on 12/09/2013 2:58:27 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Leaning Right

Why can’t these problem dogs be tranquilized instead of shot dead?

You hear this thing all the time and while I can understand a charging dog is a problem for cops trying to defend, seems they always just want to pull out their guns and shoot.

I’ll tell you this, though I cannot imagine a scenario where this would happen, if anyone shot my dog for barking at them I’d have to get my gun and shoot THEM!

It’s what dogs do! But the cops....they keep shooting them.

There’s no saner solution?


7 posted on 12/09/2013 2:59:07 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/)
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To: Leaning Right

What is it with these cops?


8 posted on 12/09/2013 2:59:40 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

“next they will shoot people for talking back to them.”

They already do that...


9 posted on 12/09/2013 3:00:17 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Leaning Right

Much as I hate dogs getting shot by Cops.....

She should have kept the dog at home. Dropping it off to spend the night with someone with diminished mental capacity is not the smartest way to go.


10 posted on 12/09/2013 3:00:22 PM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Leaning Right

Many dogs run toward a new person to be friendly. The barking is excitement. The cop takes no chances and kills the dog. There is no recourse. Your dog is dead. Just be thankful that they didn’t see granpa with a TV remote, yell to him to put down the gun, but he doesn’t drop the TV remote because it’s not a gun, and he’s dead too.

Welcome to the wonderful world of trust in the new USA.


11 posted on 12/09/2013 3:01:01 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: cripplecreek

in St. Clair Shores?

I was, as a teenager... under the impression that St Clair Shores was a fairly upscale burb and find it rather odd that this sort of behavior has found its way there...


12 posted on 12/09/2013 3:02:11 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: MeshugeMikey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clair_Shores,_Michigan#2010_census


13 posted on 12/09/2013 3:06:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: babygene
Yes they do.
14 posted on 12/09/2013 3:07:46 PM PST by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: I want the USA back

“Many dogs run toward a new person to be friendly. The barking is excitement. The cop takes no chances and kills the dog.”

Apparently cops have never seen a dog before and are totally unfamiliar with normal dog behavior. Its as if they have been trained that a barking dog is as deadly as a lion and must not be allowed to get close.


15 posted on 12/09/2013 3:09:22 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Leaning Right

There have been barking dogs that I have wished dead. Never kilt one, but won’t rule it out


16 posted on 12/09/2013 3:13:07 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: Leaning Right

The dog was hit eight times
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I can’t say what i think...


17 posted on 12/09/2013 3:17:52 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Leaning Right
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18 posted on 12/09/2013 3:19:06 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Leaning Right

They usually shoot dogs for NO reason.


19 posted on 12/09/2013 3:24:59 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
Its as if they have been trained that a barking dog is as deadly as a lion and must not be allowed to get close.

Well said.

20 posted on 12/09/2013 3:26:59 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: MeshugeMikey
I was, as a teenager... under the impression that St Clair Shores was a fairly upscale burb and find it rather odd that this sort of behavior has found its way there...

I would agree. I hang with a couple SCS retired cops so I'll asked them how they think about this event.......

21 posted on 12/09/2013 3:27:53 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: Irenic

“The dog was hit eight times”

An interesting detail. It ws reported that the dog was cowering agianst the house as they were shooting at it. Even if the cowardly donut munchers felt threatened at first, after how many shots did the dog retreat? Why continue to shoot it instead of stopping when the threat was over? Target practice?? Blood lust?? I’m sure some dept lawyer would say they had to put it out of its misery which is BS.


22 posted on 12/09/2013 3:28:10 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Leaning Right

Federal agents also shot a man after complaints about excessive happiness.


23 posted on 12/09/2013 3:35:38 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Leaning Right
He says they only shot when they felt the dog posed a danger to them – and kids out on their way to school.

Poor, poor little skeerd piggies. {I jus wanna go hom tnight, an that puppy pooch might jus bite me}

Hey, YO! SKEERED little PIGGIE! Dogs SKEER you that much? Go sell life insurance, yellow belly.

I did door to door insurance sales for Prudential for years. Ran into a LOAD of mutts that had an attitude. A swift boot to the chops had them up on the porch, not wanting to run with the big dogs ever again.

What in T H E N A M E O F H E L L is this pu$$i A$$ penchant for shooting dogs?

Hey, YO! Copper, BOY in BLUE, explain to me just WHY YOU NEED TO CAP THE DOG?

I think it just gives you a boner. You can SHOOT your GUNZ, kill something alive, and GET AWAY WITH IT.

I've stared down some of the worst of the worst. I rescued some big, bad, mean assed dogs from abusive houses. Me and the dogger, face to face. But then again, I'm not SKEERD of a dog!

Starting to get a real ATTITUDE about piggies that just NEED to cap dogs.

(Oh, but in Animal Farm, they did just that too!)

Any, and every, pig that caps a dog, for WHATEVER REASON, needs to be put on administrative leave and put through the "Psychological Evaluation" wringer, because, IMHO, as an old pig farmer from the backwash of PA, such a person doesn't have what it takes to deal with the public in general.

If you can't deal with a dog, how in hell can you deal with a human that has problems?

Just "Shoot Em?"

OTH, there are a lot of good cops out there, who take the time to call a rescue guy like me, when they stumble into a bad situation.

Its all a matter of perspective. A dog is a dog, a human is SUPPOSEDLY smarter than that dog. So why does one need to go all nuclear on a dumb animal who is probably confused and frightened? Hey piggies, dog smarter than you?

Maybe that's why the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality has taken control.

I'll stop now, my heart goes out to the doggers.

They are truly innocents, they did nothing wrong in the eyes of God.

24 posted on 12/09/2013 3:37:32 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Leaning Right

25 posted on 12/09/2013 3:38:28 PM PST by kanawa
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To: Leaning Right

Something is terribly wrong with law enforcement in this country.


26 posted on 12/09/2013 3:38:43 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cripplecreek

Not to comment on this incident, but animal control officers don’t do crap about barking dogs. Damn near no governmental authority or law enforcement does *anything* about incessant, non stop, permanent, never ending barking. It is apparently a God given right to let your effin yapper sit out 24 hours a day and bark.

It isn’t the dog that needs to be shot...uh..get it?


27 posted on 12/09/2013 3:46:43 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Leaning Right
and yet another doughnut muncher earns their dog shooter merit badge...

28 posted on 12/09/2013 3:47:53 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Leaning Right
puppycide

It is simply amazing that in this neck of the woods, she could not find better overnight care for her dog than her grandfather with his apparent dementia.

That said there is nothing unusual about this shooting - visit the link above. It's an epidemic.

29 posted on 12/09/2013 3:52:10 PM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

“If you can’t deal with a dog, how in hell can you deal with a human that has problems?”

That’s good...


30 posted on 12/09/2013 3:53:04 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Irenic

In my link to Puppycide there are stories where dogs are hit many more than 8 times, as I recall. I think the cops are really enjoying shooting the gun.


31 posted on 12/09/2013 3:55:15 PM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Leaning Right

“The dog started barking. Between the hours of 3:00 and 7:00 a.m. several neighbors sick of the noise called police.”

Dontcha just love neighbors? Can’t be bothered to throw on their slippers and nightgown and go next door to see why the dog was left outside all night. Easier to just call the cops and skip the human interaction.


32 posted on 12/09/2013 3:58:39 PM PST by Boogieman
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33 posted on 12/09/2013 4:00:03 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Boogieman
Einstein said there are ten or more solutions to every problem but few people move past the first 2.

You would think neighbors would know the man living there was out of it.

anyway here is the other link I meant to post earlier so am posting it in this reply....thanks for not minding.

34 posted on 12/09/2013 4:03:33 PM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: MarMema

“It is simply amazing that in this neck of the woods, she could not find better overnight care for her dog than her grandfather with his apparent dementia.”

Blaming the victim? Who was watching the dog is irrelevant. Lots of middle aged folks have dogs that bark and ignore them for hours.


35 posted on 12/09/2013 4:05:17 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Fishtalk

“Why can’t these problem dogs be tranquilized instead of shot dead?”

Tranquilizer guns require some knowledge and experience to use properly, while any goober can be trained to use a firearm. I wouldn’t trust a cop to dispense pharmaceuticals, especially not at high velocities.


36 posted on 12/09/2013 4:06:03 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

There’s so much fear today


37 posted on 12/09/2013 4:07:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Leaning Right

Interesting question.


38 posted on 12/09/2013 4:09:02 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Leaning Right
I'm a courier. I've met hundreds of dogs while doing my job.
I've been 'charged' by Mastiffs, Great Danes, GSDs, 'pitbulls', packs of large dogs, etc.
and never, never, never have I felt the need to shoot the dog(s).
I am always armed with a...wait for it...dog biscuit.

I talk to them in a friendly, soothing manner, offer them my hand to smell
and take control of the encounter by getting them to sit for a treat.

I'm thinking, when something like this happens, folks should organize
and go en masse to the police station and bury the steps with dog biscuits.
If the trigger happy fools are capable of being shamed,
this might bring about a change in their behavior.

39 posted on 12/09/2013 4:18:57 PM PST by kanawa
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To: Fishtalk

Why can’t these problem dogs be tranquilized instead of shot dead?

Why can’t they be tazed? Cops love to use their tazers on people, are we to believe that they are less effective on dogs? Or do the cops just enjoy shooting something they have very little chance of being sued over? And eight hits? I wonder how many magazines these sharpshooters went through.


40 posted on 12/09/2013 4:19:11 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Leaning Right
"That's nice work boys"


41 posted on 12/09/2013 4:27:29 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: be-baw

me too..

was forced to either move or shoot the damn dog..

the people who owned it refused to do anything about it, barking all hours of the night non stop...

my problem is not with dogs, but with the dogs owners, a vast majority of them do not give a damn what their animal does, because they are part of the family...

no, the are animals, and if you cannot control your animal you have no right owning one...


42 posted on 12/09/2013 4:27:40 PM PST by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: Alaska Wolf

ping


43 posted on 12/09/2013 5:13:09 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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>> The police said that the barking dog charged them, so they were forced to shoot. The dog was hit eight times.

Pussies.


44 posted on 12/09/2013 5:13:59 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
next they will shoot people for talking back to them.

You mean like that kid one shot Friday??

'Oh you're gonna shoot me?' The sarcastic last words of straight-A student shot dead by cop ...

45 posted on 12/09/2013 5:16:30 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
I think it just gives you a boner.

That could happen...


46 posted on 12/09/2013 5:21:17 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Leaning Right

While I absolutely despise barking dogs, and the owners thereof, there is no friggin reason for this trend in police shooting dogs. If the friggin police feared the populace like prison guards respect their “populace”, this problem would disappear. Eventually, these dudes will get their due.


47 posted on 12/09/2013 5:25:21 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Leaning Right

Good question, because you know the Brits love their dogs, from the Queen on down.

My mother went to England and said the dogs are everywhere, people bring them into restaurants even. I don’t know if they still do that.


48 posted on 12/09/2013 5:37:53 PM PST by jocon307
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Already happening:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3099910/posts


49 posted on 12/09/2013 6:02:53 PM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: cripplecreek

50 posted on 12/09/2013 6:15:26 PM PST by atomic_dog
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