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Trial Ordered For Detroit-area Man Charged In Porch Shooting
NBC News - Reuters ^ | Dec. 19, 2013 | David Bailey

Posted on 12/19/2013 12:18:55 PM PST by SatinDoll

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To: gr8eman

I have a friend who was convicted of manslaughter years ago. He got in a drunken fight with his best friend and the friend went down and hit his head.

A jury would have eaten him alive. He admitted that he was guilty of starting the fight and he was the one who caused the other guy to go down.


21 posted on 12/19/2013 1:07:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: driftdiver

You can’t gun down a person for knocking on your door even if she is drunk and wrecked her car.

Why do some freepers need to defend every loser whack case, as long as he uses a gun?


22 posted on 12/19/2013 1:10:56 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradley- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

Didnt say you could. Some of the facts do raise the possibility that she wasnt acting rationally.

He said it was an accident. that he shot her by accident.

Not sure how that happens but its plausible IMO.


23 posted on 12/19/2013 1:12:33 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SatinDoll
He opens the door and two men rush in, shoot him and his wife dead then ransack the house. Meanwhile the young woman is standing lookout in front.

Now you are sounding crazier than ever.

A part of you seems to recognize that, as you describe an alternative to gunning down a woman knocking on your front door. ""The proper response to a knock on the door in the middle of the night is to call 911 and have them on the line as you talk to the “knocker” through a window."".

24 posted on 12/19/2013 1:14:14 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradley- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: driftdiver

I don’t see the need to be defending a panicky idiot gun owner who accidently kills someone knocking at his front door.

When you shoot an unarmed woman knocking on your front door, you are obviously doing something wrong.


25 posted on 12/19/2013 1:27:04 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradley- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

Well you are assuming all she was doing was knocking. If someone starts banging on my door and acting irrationally at 3:30am I would be on edge as well.

Your use of “idiot gun owner” is quite interesting. So are you against all gun owners?


26 posted on 12/19/2013 1:29:00 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I’m an old Texan and a grew up around normal people and guns, I am assuming that some panicky modern idiot killed an unarmed woman on his porch.

You seem to be throwing everything you can out to create a reason for that.


27 posted on 12/19/2013 1:34:42 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradley- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: Responsibility2nd



28 posted on 12/19/2013 1:42:30 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: ansel12

yet you never answered the question

nuff said


29 posted on 12/19/2013 1:44:52 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SatinDoll

As long as it was his own porch I see nothing wrong with him shooting it...


30 posted on 12/19/2013 1:45:00 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: SatinDoll

As long as it was his own porch I see nothing wrong with him shooting it...


31 posted on 12/19/2013 1:45:02 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Jack Black
You do not have a right to shoot irritating people...

Oops!

32 posted on 12/19/2013 1:47:16 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: driftdiver

If you about gun owners, it is as a gun owner and being around gun owners all my life that I can’t figure out why you want to defend panicky little goof balls who can’t handle themselves and get people killed.

I can see why you revealed that you felt sympathy with his fear and panic, and want to defend his incompetence, or worse.

Personally, this doesn’t sound like the kind of man who wins respect and sympathy in my world of gun owners.


33 posted on 12/19/2013 1:51:33 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradley- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

now I see, you are just a confused person. I never expressed sympathy for him.

I just expressed there may be more to the story rather then jumping to conclusions and calling people all kinds of names.


34 posted on 12/19/2013 1:53:42 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: lee martell

‘... loudly banging on doors at X’’oClock in the dark morning? You don’t do things like that and not expect consequences.....

UMMM PERZAKLY L/M....AND WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN WRONG WITH THIS LADY JUST .... STANDING IN THE YARD WAY WAY WAY BACK FROM THE DOOR THEN ... SCREAMING ‘HELP ME PLEASE I’M IN TROUBLE, PLEASE’ WITH HER HANDS UP PERHAPS...

NOBODY SHOOTS ANYBODY UNDER THAT CIRCUMSTANCE.......


35 posted on 12/19/2013 2:02:57 PM PST by jimsin
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To: driftdiver

Your determined and sustained and varying, defense of the guy, shows your sympathy with him, as does your expression of describing how you yourself would be “on edge” as a level of support for him killing a woman.

The guy is an embarrassment to men and gun owners, and he killed an unarmed woman on his front porch.

Not everything, or every loser, needs defending, just because he uses a gun.


36 posted on 12/19/2013 2:05:18 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradley- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12

Just

Can’t

Admit

When

You

Are

Wrong


37 posted on 12/19/2013 2:10:07 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

You are wrong to keep defending this incompetent boobs misuse of a gun.

So far the evidence seems to support me, that is why it is going to trial, when an unarmed woman is gunned down on a man’s front porch, then it really looks bad for that man.


38 posted on 12/19/2013 2:14:06 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradley- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: SatinDoll

My understanding of this case...which surely could be incomplete....suggests that this was a genuine tragedy that *might* warrant a charge of negligent something-or-other brought against the shooter but,perhaps,not murder.


39 posted on 12/19/2013 2:14:14 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: SatinDoll
FWIW, here's a tip we use in my neighborhood. If anyone who you wouldn't expect around here approaches your house, activate your car alarm by remote. Turn on your lights. With the dogs chiming in, it gets weird.

Situation came up last year around here. The person who had "gotten lost" took off into nearby woods. Police seemed to like the challenge just fine.

40 posted on 12/19/2013 2:16:45 PM PST by grania
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