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New ObamaCare fees coming in 2014
NY Post ^ | December 25, 2013 | S.A. Miller and Geoff Earle

Posted on 12/25/2013 8:06:18 PM PST by lowbridge

Here comes the ObamaCare tax bill.

The cost of President Obama’s massive health-care law will hit Americans in 2014 as new taxes pile up on their insurance premiums and on their income-tax bills.

Most insurers aren’t advertising the ObamaCare taxes that are added on to premiums, opting instead to discretely pass them on to customers while quietly lobbying lawmakers for a break.

But one insurance company, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Alabama, laid bare the taxes on its bills with a separate line item for “Affordable Care Act Fees and Taxes.”

The new taxes on one customer’s bill added up to $23.14 a month, or $277.68 annually, according to Kaiser Health News. It boosted the monthly premium from $322.26 to $345.40 for that individual.

The new taxes and fees include a 2 percent levy on every health plan, which is expected to net about $8 billion for the government in 2014 and increase to $14.3 billion in 2018.

There’s also a $2 fee per policy that goes into a new medical-research trust fund called the Patient Centered Outcomes Research Institute.

Insurers pay a 3.5 percent user fee to sell medical plans on the HealthCare.gov Web site.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare; taxes

1 posted on 12/25/2013 8:06:19 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

Fees, deductibles, hidden taxes by the Tyrant
for all except the EXEMPT and Moslems.

What could be fairer?


2 posted on 12/25/2013 8:08:52 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: lowbridge
RE :”Insurers pay a 3.5 percent user fee to sell medical plans on the HealthCare.gov Web site.”

I like this one.

3 posted on 12/25/2013 8:11:36 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: lowbridge

MERRY CHRISTMAS, LIBTARDS.


4 posted on 12/25/2013 8:14:15 PM PST by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin - Last Man Standing (Ironic, ain't it?))
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To: lowbridge

I make under $250K a year, so these new taxes do not apply to me. Obama promised no tax increases for my income or below.


5 posted on 12/25/2013 8:15:12 PM PST by informavoracious (Root for Obamacare and healthcare.gov failure!)
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To: LaybackLenny

They’re finding out whats in it.


6 posted on 12/25/2013 8:15:38 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: lowbridge

A lot of money spent to cover 10% of the population - most of whom were uninsured by choice.


7 posted on 12/25/2013 8:17:44 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: lowbridge

We just received our Blue Shield group insurance bill for January 2014. It covers about 35 employees. It went up $1000 a month with the new fees/taxes. Some of these charges will be passed onto the employees.

I have noticed that the employees who were ‘rah rah’ for Obama are very quiet now.


8 posted on 12/25/2013 8:18:27 PM PST by girlreporter
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To: Antihero101607

NOTRE DAME PROFESSOR ON OBAMACARE
THE CHRISTIAN POST ^ | 11/20/2013 | Laura Hollis

Obamacare Should Remind Us We Are Not ‘Subjects,’ We Are People Laura Hollis is a professor at the University of Notre Dame November 20, 2013 http://www.christianpost.com/news/obamacare-should-remind-us-we-are-not-subjects-we-are-people-109165/

• Laura Hollis is a professor at the University of Notre Dame

The unveiling of the dictatorial debacle that is Obamacare absolutely flabbergasts me. It is stunning on so many levels, but the most shocking aspect of it for me is watching millions of free Americans stand idly by while this man, his minions in Congress and his cheerleaders in the press systematically dismantle our Constitution, steal our money, and crush our freedoms. • The President, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid (with no small help from Justice John Roberts) take away our health care, and we allow it. • They take away our insurance, and we allow it. • They take away our doctors, and we allow it. • They charge us thousands of dollars more a year, and we allow it. • They make legal products illegal, and we allow it. • They cripple our businesses, and we allow it. • They announce by fiat that we must ignore our most deeply held beliefs – and we allow it.

Where is your spine, America ? Yes, I know people are complaining. I read the news on the internet. I read blogs. I have a Twitter feed. So what? People in the Soviet Union complained. People in Cuba complain. People in China complain (quietly). Complaining isn’t the same thing as doing anything about it. In fact, much of the complaining that we hear sounds like resignation: Wow. This sucks. Oh well, this is the way things are. Too bad. Perhaps you need reminding of a few important facts. Here goes:

1. The President is not a king. Barack Obama does not behave like a President, an elected official, someone who realizes that he works for us. He behaves like a king, a dictator – someone who believes that his own pronouncements have the force of law, and who thinks he can dispense with the law’s enforcement when he deigns to do so. And those of us who object? How dare we? Racists! And while he moves steadily “forward” with his plans to “fundamentally transform” the greatest country in human history, he distracts people with cheap, meaningless trivialities, like “free birth control pills”! (In fact, let’s face it: this administration’s odd obsession with sex in general - Birth control! Abortion! Sterilization! Gay guys who play basketball! — is just plain weird. Since when did the leader of the free world care so much about how people have sex, who they have it with, and what meds they use when they have it? Does he have nothing more important to concern himself with?)

2. It isn’t just a failed software program; it is a failed philosophy. People are marveling that Healthcare.gov was such a spectacular failure. Well, if one is only interested in it as a product launch, I’ve explained some of the reasons for that here. But the larger point is that it isn’t a software failure, or even a product failure; it is a philosophy failure. I have said this before: Obama is not a centrist; he is a central planner. And this – all of it: the disastrous computer program, the hundreds of millions of dollars wasted, the lies, the manipulation of public opinion, the theft of the public’s money and property, and freedom (read insurance, and premiums, and doctors) — IS what central planning looks like. The central premise of central planning is that a handful of wunderkinds with your best interests at heart (yeah, right) know better than you what’s good for you. The failure of such a premise and the misery it causes have been clear from the dawn of humanity. Kings and congressmen, dictators and Dear Leaders, potentates, princes and presidents can all fall prey to the same imperial impulses: “we know what is good the ‘the people.’ And they are always wrong. There is a reason that the only times communism has really been tried have been after wars, revolutions, or coups d’état. You have to have complete chaos for people to be willing to accept the garbage that centralized planning produces. Take the Soviet Union , for example. After two wars, famine, and the collapse of the Romanov dynasty, why wouldn’t people wait in line for hours to buy size 10 shoes? Or settle for the gray matter that passed for meat in the grocery stores? But communism’s watered-down cousin, socialism, isn’t much better. Ask the Venezuelans who cannot get toilet paper. Toilet paper. ¡Viva la Revolución! Contrary to what so many who believe in a “living Constitution” say, the Founding Fathers absolutely understood this. That is why the Constitution was set up to limit government power. (Memo to the President: the drafters of the Constitution deliberately didn’t say “what government had to do on your behalf.”) They understood that that was the path to folly, fear, and famine.)

3. Obama is deceitful. Just as the collapse of the computer program should not surprise anyone, neither should we be shocked that the President lied about his healthcare plan. Have any of you been paying attention over the past few years? Obama has made no secret of his motivations or his methods. The philosophies which inspire him espouse deceit and other vicious tactics. (Don’t take my word for it: read Saul Alinsky.) Obama infamously told reporter Richard Wolffe, “You know, I actually believe my own bullshit.” He has refused to be forthcoming about his past (where are his academic records?). His own pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, told author Ed Klein, that Obama said to him, “You know what your problem is? You have to tell the truth.” Did Obama lie when he said dozens of times, “If you like you plan, you can keep it. Period!”? Of course he did. That’s what he does.

4. The media is responsible. And had the media been doing their jobs, we would have known a lot of this much, much earlier. The press is charged with the sacred responsibility of protecting the people from the excesses of government. Our press has been complicit, incompetent, or corrupt. Had they vetted this man in 2008, as they would have a Republican candidate, we would have known far more about him than we do, even now. Had they pressed for more details about Obamacare, Congress’ feet would have been held to the fire. Had they done their jobs about Eric Holder, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the IRS scandal, NSA spying - or any of the other myriad betrayals of the public trust that this administration has committed, Obama would likely have lost his 2012 reelection campaign. (A fact that even The Washington Post has tacitly acknowledged. Well done, fellas! Happy now?) Instead, they turned a blind eye, even when they knew he was lying, abusing power, disregarding the limits of the Constitution. It was only when he began to spy on them, and when the lies were so blatant that the lowest of low-information voters could figure it out that they realized they had to report on it. (Even in the face of blatant, deliberate and repeated lies, The New York Times has the audacity to tell us that the President “misspoke.”) They have betrayed us, abandoned us, and deceived us.

5. Ted Cruz was right. So was Sarah Palin. The computer program is a disaster. The insurance exchanges are a disaster. What’s left? The healthcare system itself. And this, of necessity, will be a disaster, too. Millions of people have lost their individual insurance plans. In 2015, millions more will lose their employer-provided coverage (a fact which the Obama administration also knew, and admitted elsewhere).

The exorbitant additional costs that Obamacare has foisted on unsuspecting Americans are all part of a plan of wealth confiscation and redistribution. That is bad enough. But it will not end there. When the numbers of people into the system and the corresponding demand for care vastly exceed the cost projections (and they will, make no mistake), then the rationing will start. Not only choice at that point, but quality and care itself will go down the tubes. And then will come the decisions made by the Independent Payment Advisory Board about what care will be covered (read “paid for”) and what will not. That’s just a death panel, put politely. In fact, progressives are already greasing the wheels for acceptance of that miserable reality as well. They’re spreading the lie that it will be about the ability of the dying to refuse unwanted or unhelpful care. Don’t fall for that one, either. It will be about the deaths that inevitably result from decisions made by people other than the patients, their families, and their physicians. (Perhaps it’s helpful to think of their assurances this way: “If you like your end-of-life care, you can keep your end-of-life-care.”)

6. We are not SUBJECTS. (or, Nice Try, the Tea Party Isn’t Going Away). We have tolerated these incursions into our lives and livelihoods too long already. There is no end to the insatiable demand “progressives” have to remake us in their image. Today it is our insurance, our businesses, our doctors, our health care. Tomorrow some new crusade will be announced that enables them to take over other aspects of our formerly free lives. I will say it again: WE ARE NOT SUBJECTS. Not only is the Tea Party right on the fiscal issues, but it appears that they are more relevant than ever. We fought a war once to prove we did not want to be the subjects of a king, and the Boston Tea Party was just a taste of the larger conflict to come. If some people missed that lesson in history class, we can give them a refresher. The 2014 elections are a good place to start. Call your representative, your senator, your candidate and tell them: “We are not subjects. You work for us. And if the word “REPEAL” isn’t front and center in your campaign, we won’t vote for you. Period.”

Laura Hollis is an attorney and teaches entrepreneurship and business law at the University of Notre Dame . She resides in Indiana with her husband and two children.

Finally, someone who thinks like me In this country many people have always talked about the “banana republics” (referring mostly to Central and South American countries), their revolutions, their coup d’etats, etc. But when the governments act like they have in those countries, usually that is the ONLY way to get rid of them. In this country, up to 2008, that was not the case but since then it is rapidly going that route and the natives are not used to it nor prepared to fight it effectively. Most of those natives (and sadly quite a few natives of those banana republics) naively believe in the “checks and balances” which the usurper is quietly but swiftly doing away with. I repeat Professor Hollis words: “Where is your spine, America ?” In case someone wants to write, her address is lhollis@nd.edu


9 posted on 12/25/2013 8:26:45 PM PST by Dqban22
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To: informavoracious
HAHAHAHA!!

Promises, promises...............

10 posted on 12/25/2013 8:28:50 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: informavoracious

“Obama promised no tax increases for my income or below.”

It appears you believe him since you don’t have a tax - yet.

I wouldn’t believe him if he said he is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood - well, yes, I WOULD believe him if he said that.


11 posted on 12/25/2013 8:36:25 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: lowbridge
Eh? What? The free medical care is only "health care" that's expensive instead of free? You mean President You Didn't Build That fibbed?
12 posted on 12/25/2013 8:46:55 PM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: lowbridge

But the free loaders are happy with free Medicaid insurance and that is all democrats care.

Everything democrats do is taking from those who work and give it those who don’t. It keeps them in power. Almost half of Americans receive a check from the government for doing no work.


13 posted on 12/25/2013 8:48:11 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
RE: “A lot of money spent to cover 10% of the population.”

Exactly.

The highest estimate I ever saw for the uninsured was 60 million.

Subtract 10 million illegal immigrants, 10 million healthy young adults, and 10 million uninsured by choice.

That leaves 30 million, which is actually a fraction under 10%.

If we had put all 30 million on Medicaid, the cost would have been less than $150 billion a year, with NO change at all to our current functional system.

I have yet to hear one nationally known Republican make this argument!

Instead, the strategic “plan” of our leadership seems to be the auto-erotic fantasy that ObamaCare will self-implode and confer huge political rewards on the Republican Party.

14 posted on 12/25/2013 8:50:13 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: girlreporter

$1000 for 35 employees = $30/per employee?

Wait till next year when the mandate kicks in for businesses. May not affect you with 35 employees but will be big increases on larger businesses.


15 posted on 12/25/2013 8:50:52 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: entropy12

16 posted on 12/25/2013 8:57:08 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: lowbridge

My friend just sold and closed on her house in Colorado. The 3% Obamacare tax was already on her closing statement.


17 posted on 12/25/2013 8:57:31 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (call it ODemocratcare)
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To: lowbridge

“ObamaCare supporters argue that federal subsidies for many low-income Americans will not only cover the taxes, but pay a big chunk of the premiums.”

The government is paying taxes to itself?


18 posted on 12/25/2013 9:01:28 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: stilloftyhenight

That tax is pretty confusing.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/realestate.asp


19 posted on 12/25/2013 9:11:29 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
The government is paying taxes to itself?

Well... it seems more like 'we' are paying the government four times, and can't even be sure the actual insurance policy will be in effect.

20 posted on 12/25/2013 10:10:17 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (I forgot what my tagline was supposed to say)
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To: stilloftyhenight

Please clarify what the three percent tax was based upon, in the case of your friend selling her house. Three percent of the closing fees, or three percent of the sale price of the home.


21 posted on 12/25/2013 10:26:07 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: lowbridge

ObamaCare isn’t about healthcare. It’s about politicians stealing money from hardworking Americans. Bass turds.


22 posted on 12/25/2013 10:44:16 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The Truth Is Out There. Just don't let anyone know that you're looking for it.)
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To: Ciexyz

3.8% of the gain, I believe. “unearned income”


23 posted on 12/25/2013 11:20:46 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6

I wonder how they will figure that on a house I built instead of bought.


24 posted on 12/25/2013 11:36:03 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

If you sell it, you’ll find out.


25 posted on 12/25/2013 11:38:54 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
It will probably be a few years from now if at all but
hopefully 0bamaCare will be an ugly painful memory by then.
26 posted on 12/25/2013 11:42:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: stilloftyhenight

>> The 3% Obamacare tax was already on her closing statement.

WTF???


27 posted on 12/25/2013 11:45:56 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Marcella; Osage Orange

My comment was tongue in cheek. I hoped since I was posting on FR it would be obvious.


28 posted on 12/26/2013 12:47:31 AM PST by informavoracious (Root for Obamacare and healthcare.gov failure!)
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To: ltc8k6

Why not? It borrows money from itself.
I prefer they tax themselves, and leave me out of the loop....


29 posted on 12/26/2013 3:10:06 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: ltc8k6

Hopefully they don’t decide that they like those taxes...


30 posted on 12/26/2013 9:24:40 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Kozak

They like to claim that those folks are paying taxes...


31 posted on 12/26/2013 9:25:46 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: informavoracious
I think it was....

Therefore it was.........

32 posted on 12/26/2013 6:08:02 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Gene Eric

I know! Here we were celebrating the closing before Jan. 1, and the tax was already there! Like she said, “I can’t afford to fight it.”


33 posted on 12/27/2013 6:26:37 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (call it ODemocratcare)
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To: Ciexyz

She did say, but I’ve forgotten exactly where it was applied. I’ll talk with her soon and try to get clarity.


34 posted on 12/27/2013 6:27:56 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (call it ODemocratcare)
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To: stilloftyhenight

That’s only on the cap gain, right?


35 posted on 12/27/2013 6:29:26 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: ltc8k6

3.8% of cap gain > $250k AGI

http://www.realtor.org/small_business_health_coverage.nsf/docfiles/government_affairs_invest_inc_tax_broch.pdf/$FILE/government_affairs_invest_inc_tax_broch.pdf


36 posted on 12/27/2013 6:31:08 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: nascarnation

Don’t know. I’ll talk with her this week and ask for more details.


37 posted on 12/27/2013 6:33:54 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (call it ODemocratcare)
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To: nascarnation

Yeah, I had actually already linked to an explanation in post 19.


38 posted on 12/27/2013 7:06:28 PM PST by ltc8k6
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