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Target confirms PIN data was stolen in breach
CNN ^ | December 27, 2013 | David Goldman

Posted on 12/27/2013 10:10:54 AM PST by John W

Target confirmed Friday that debit card PIN data was stolen in its recent massive breach, reversing its earlier stance that the codes were not part of the hack.

However, the retailer believes the PINs remain "safe and secure." In a statement, Target spokeswoman Molly Snyder said the PINs are "strongly encrypted" and were never stored on Target's systems in plain text.

In other words, from the moment a customer entered a PIN after swiping a debit card, Target's payment system translated that number into an indecipherable string of code. Target claims that the PINs remained encrypted after they were stolen.

Not only are the PINs encrypted, Target says the numbers can only be decrypted by the independent payment processor, which holds the decryption key. That key is necessary to translate the unintelligible code back into the PIN. Target said the key was not stolen as part of the breach, because it never existed within the company's systems.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hacking; internet; target

1 posted on 12/27/2013 10:10:54 AM PST by John W
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To: John W; All

Target is non-union?


2 posted on 12/27/2013 10:13:17 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11) Hey, Harry Reid.. 1-800-318-2596!)
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To: John W

Target has been pro-gay, anti-gun since the 2008 elections. Why would any right-minded individual shop there?


3 posted on 12/27/2013 10:19:21 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

I shop at any retailer, according to where I am (location-wise), the products carried, the pricing (which includes the cost of the product in driving) and the general environment of the store and the nature of the help (i.e., how they help the customers)..

I buy things for myself and my family - not for anyone else. The retailers can take care of their own internal business. If they don’t treat me as a good customer - that’s when it will go against them, as far as I’m concerned.


4 posted on 12/27/2013 10:25:16 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Terry L Smith

Because their selection is awesome, the prices are great, and the locations are convenient. Same set of reasons I shop anywhere.


5 posted on 12/27/2013 10:26:41 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Terry L Smith

Never paid by card as I am a cash guy. People who use their debit cards annoy me as they are mostly too stupid to use the debit card machine and they hold up the line.


6 posted on 12/27/2013 10:28:48 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Terry L Smith

BTW, what is a PIN?


7 posted on 12/27/2013 10:32:40 AM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: John W

New classification: these cards are now SSS = safe, secure, and stolen


8 posted on 12/27/2013 10:33:54 AM PST by ken5050 (This space available cheap...)
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To: Star Traveler

Their pricing is reasonable.. ie 12 pack gillette disposable razors. Target $7.99. Walgreens $11.99


9 posted on 12/27/2013 10:45:58 AM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: discostu
"Because their selection is awesome, the prices are great,"

Some of their prices seem awesome to me also, in a negative way.

10 posted on 12/27/2013 10:47:10 AM PST by matthew fuller (Pubbies need to replace Boehner with Gowdy if they want to survive.....)
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To: stubernx98

Personal Identification Number, a password used to access an automated teller machine or other secured system


11 posted on 12/27/2013 10:52:56 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: UB355

“Walgreens $11.99”

Don’t understand why anyone shops at Walgreens. There prices are consistently 30% higher than almost all other stores. And their pharmacies are absolutely the worst in my neck of the woods.


12 posted on 12/27/2013 10:53:26 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: John W

looks to me like like Target is about as trust worthy as the white hut.


13 posted on 12/27/2013 10:54:52 AM PST by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: UB355

Best prices on cat litter, at least close by.


14 posted on 12/27/2013 10:57:02 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: stubernx98

It’s the number you use to authorize the retailer in taking the money out of your account (when using a debit card). It’s also the same number you use when going to an ATM machine, to get cash out.


15 posted on 12/27/2013 10:59:35 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: discostu

A little eye candy never hurts.


16 posted on 12/27/2013 11:04:48 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: John W

So encrypted PIN data was stolen, which doesn’t do the hackers much good. They can’t use the forged cards at ATMs or use them as debit cards for purchases, but they can still use them as credit cards and sign for purchases in stores. Still sucks though.


17 posted on 12/27/2013 11:05:53 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: John W

They cancel my daughter’s credit card on Christmas Eve while she was shopping for her 5 kids.She is sorry she ever shopped at target.


18 posted on 12/27/2013 11:08:02 AM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: stubernx98

stuberns98 wrote:
“BTW, what is a PIN?”

I’m glad you asked that!

It’s those four numbers you use when you call in your bank telephone number, to check the balance in your checking account, or for those that use plastic cards, those numbers on that wierd thing at the supermarket, or as some would ask you, “What is the last four of your Social Security Number?”


19 posted on 12/27/2013 11:12:40 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: catnipman

I made a huge mistake in accepting a contract job involving new equipment installation in Walgreens stores. The managing and planning behind it could have come from right out of the pointy haired boss’s manual. I still have nightmares about it.


20 posted on 12/27/2013 11:12:59 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: John W

[whew] Suddenly I feel better about Heathcare.gov, as it is nothing BUT indecipherable strings of code.


21 posted on 12/27/2013 11:14:36 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: max americana

I use both, and have been doing so, since 1994.
Before that, I had a credit card, AMEX, and did close that out in 1988, and haven’t used a credit card, since.

“They pay me a penny for my dollar in the bank, but charge me 22 pennies to use one of their dollars they loan to me? there’s no profit in that, for me!”


22 posted on 12/27/2013 11:16:29 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Terry L Smith

““They pay me a penny for my dollar in the bank, but charge me 22 pennies to use one of their dollars they loan to me? there’s no profit in that, for me!”

True dat’ hehe


23 posted on 12/27/2013 11:20:20 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: John W

Does anyone know if this applies to all purchases at target ever or just recently ?


24 posted on 12/27/2013 11:36:23 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

The discount retailer acknowledged late last week that the hack began on Black Friday and stretched more than two weeks to Dec. 15.


25 posted on 12/27/2013 11:39:20 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: John W

Strong encryption.

They probably added the first 4 digits of pi to each number.

Oh, sorry, wasn’t supposed to tell anyone...


26 posted on 12/27/2013 11:40:12 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: John W

Thanks


27 posted on 12/27/2013 12:05:47 PM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: fatima

She ought to be sorry she waited till Christmas eve. What a fool.


28 posted on 12/27/2013 12:23:31 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

Your a fool.


29 posted on 12/27/2013 12:41:59 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: mongo141

Target Admits Customer PIN Data Removed but Says It’s ‘Secure’
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/target-corp-admits-customer-pin-data-removed-maintains/story?id=21348261
they got more excuses than an Obamatron Obammy care lover.


30 posted on 12/27/2013 1:43:04 PM PST by TurboZamboni ("PEACE ON EARTH TO MEN OF GOOD WILL".)
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To: fatima

Thanks, I see the apple didn’t fall far from the tree.


31 posted on 12/27/2013 2:08:35 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: John W

A large percentage of the PINs will be 1234, 9876, 1111, etc.


32 posted on 12/27/2013 2:23:16 PM PST by fso301
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To: caver

Your a fool and dumbest one in your family.


33 posted on 12/27/2013 2:53:18 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima

Ha!


34 posted on 12/27/2013 5:22:32 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

:)


35 posted on 12/27/2013 5:26:51 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Terry L Smith

This whole thing smells. Seeing Democrats like that scum Menendez coming out to ask for an investigation does not sit right with me. I get the impression they want to be in charge of these stores because only the government can protect the citizens. Yeah right. Who are the democrats to speak on this issue considering the fact that Healthcare.org is a hackers dream?

Beware of these awful people. It is well known that Target has always supported lib causes.


36 posted on 12/27/2013 5:33:45 PM PST by dforest
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To: John W

Can anyone explain why retailers keep any credit/debit card info? Once I have paid for my items I see no reason for them to keep that information.


37 posted on 12/27/2013 5:36:16 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I think they can only keep the data for a limited time. I have not purchased anything there is years...


38 posted on 12/27/2013 7:49:39 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

This should make the Occupy “movement” happy.

Thanks John W.


39 posted on 12/28/2013 6:36:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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