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A Deadly Mix in Benghazi (NYT investigates)
NY Times ^ | 12/28/13 | David D. Kirkpatrick

Posted on 12/28/2013 5:03:22 PM PST by Libloather

**SNIP**

The cable was a last token of months of American misunderstandings and misperceptions about Libya and especially Benghazi, many fostered by shadows of the earlier Sept. 11 attack. The United States waded deeply into post-Qaddafi Libya, hoping to build a beachhead against extremists, especially Al Qaeda. It believed it could draw a bright line between friends and enemies in Libya. But it ultimately lost its ambassador in an attack that involved both avowed opponents of the West and fighters belonging to militias that the Americans had taken for allies.

Months of investigation by The New York Times, centered on extensive interviews with Libyans in Benghazi who had direct knowledge of the attack there and its context, turned up no evidence that Al Qaeda or other international terrorist groups had any role in the assault. The attack was led, instead, by fighters who had benefited directly from NATO’s extensive air power and logistics support during the uprising against Colonel Qaddafi. And contrary to claims by some members of Congress, it was fueled in large part by anger at an American-made video denigrating Islam.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazicoverup; christiangenocide; davidkirkpatrick; hillary2016; hussein; libya; navyseals; nyt; nytbenghazi; order; threatmatrix
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Still no mention of who gave the order to 'stand down'.
1 posted on 12/28/2013 5:03:22 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather; MestaMachine

House Report: Al Qaeda in Maghreb and Al Qaeda-Linked Ansar al-Sharia Did Benghazi
CNS ^ | April 23, 2013 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on Sunday, 29 December 2013 10:32:40 AM by xzins

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3106133/posts

“...The report says the State Department quickly notified the White House that the attack was taking place in Benghazi, and that within two hours of the start of the attack the department was telling the White House that al Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Sharia was claiming responsibility for it...

“...“After the attacks, the Administration perpetuated a deliberately misleading and incomplete narrative that the violence grew out of a demonstration caused by a YouTube video,” says the report. “The Administration consciously decided not to discuss extremist involvement or previous attacks against Western interests in Benghazi.”


2 posted on 12/28/2013 5:09:05 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks

bttt


3 posted on 12/28/2013 5:10:05 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: Libloather; MestaMachine
...And contrary to claims by some members of Congress, it was fueled in large part by anger at an American-made video denigrating Islam...

sounds like a contradiction to me.

4 posted on 12/28/2013 5:12:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Libloather

“NYTs Investigates.” = COVERUP!

Whenever Benedict Arlen Sphincter “investigated” something, you KNEW it was a whitewash, a coverup, a propaganda hit piece.

Example? The freakin PRISTINE BULLET. Carcano 6.5, supposedly penetrated Kennedy and Connelly. Went through head, shoulders, arms and wrists. Ended up on the damn gurney in PRISTINE condition, with the bullet in tact, and all rifling identifiable.

SO SAID ARLEN SPHINCTER.

In the same exact vain, NYT is covering up for this lawless bunch in DC.


5 posted on 12/28/2013 5:12:39 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Libloather

Still waiting for the “iconic” photo of Hussein in the situation room on the night of the Benghazi attack.


6 posted on 12/28/2013 5:14:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Libloather

How come the New York Times never spent months of investigation on our fraudulent pResident.


7 posted on 12/28/2013 5:17:19 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

New York Slimes has covered up for every Democrat President, they just had a lot more work with this one.


8 posted on 12/28/2013 5:18:53 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: BenLurkin

9 posted on 12/28/2013 5:20:14 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Libloather

Months of investigation by The New York Times, centered on extensive interviews with Libyans in Benghazi

I feel better now knowing that the crack crew of the NYT or should I say the crew on crack of the NYT has investigated this and we all should now believe thier findings


10 posted on 12/28/2013 5:21:22 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Libloather
This is a big deal and deserves more fight from us than just echo chamber grumbling on this thread.

This is our entire problem in this country.

The NYT piece is well written and illustrated with bold photography, video, and maps. There are chapters where the article appears to deal with various "rumors" to do with Benghazi.

THIS IS THE PIECE THAT CEMENTS THE "TRUTH" ABOUT BENGHAZI INTO AMERICAN HISTORY. If we don't fight it right now, it will be the truth.

Phrases like "the Times researched for many months" or "the truth was more complicated than that" solve curiosity in most Americans' minds.

The only way to fight anything in this article is to step up factual refutations with footnotes (which this article does not have) and point by point disprove these allegations. And not on Rush Limbaugh's show or Sean Hannity's. The fight has to be LOUD AND BIG and dwarf the fight over Phil Robertson's freedom of speech.

The rest of this thread should hopefully focus on nuts and bolts directions on how to fight this, or else we deserve President Hillary Clinton.

Care now, or don't care at all.

11 posted on 12/28/2013 5:22:00 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: RightGeek
Forgot the first part:


12 posted on 12/28/2013 5:22:42 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Fred Nerks
REPORT: “...“After the Benghazi attacks and the savage murders of four Americans, the Obama Administration perpetuated a deliberately misleading and incomplete narrative that the violence grew out of a demonstration caused by a YouTube video. The Administration consciously decided not to discuss extremist involvement or previous attacks against Western interests in Benghazi.”

THE LINGERING LIE The September 11, 2012 attacks on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi precipitated the murders of the American Ambassador three other American citizens. Yet, Susan Rice, who got her NSA job b/c she toadied for Obama---parroting the WH "video" script---is still trying to pump her resume---to convince us nothing really happened.

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Susan Rice was on TV a-g-a-i-n---on 60 Minutes. She can't get enough TV time to save her sorry a**---to continue the Benghazi lie and the cover-up. Forget the video---the cover story now includes "national security" as the rationale.

Rice figures that should be enough to pump up her sorry resume.

Better to cover up what happened than to let the entire world know about Hillary's involvement....part of her shady MO to get into the WH in 2016.

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LET'S STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE In 2009, Obama made a "Smart Power" suck-up speech in Cairo----"apologizing" for America's historical role in the Middle East. By snubbing Mubarak, Obama set the stage for the Egyptian president's overthrow by the Islamic mob.

When the worst-case scenario happened, when Obama's personal choice---Islamist Muslim Brotherhood, Mohamed Morsi, was elected president----Obama sap-happily sent his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, to Cairo to personally kiss-up to Morsi....perhaps at that time hatching their plans to destroy Westen civiliation in compliance w/ Muslim dictates.

Obama's treacherous ill-advised component of US foreign policy----sucking up to the very people who want to kill us and destroy our churches. He portrayed teeming Muslim majorities there as "victims of Western colonialism and Cold War policies," stupidly promoting American-style democracy for these conflicting cultures w/ thousands of years of religious and territorial factionalism.

OBOBO'S SUCKUP "The relationship between Islam and the West includes centuries of coexistence and cooperation, but also conflict and religious wars," Obama said in the June 2009 speech in Cairo. "More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies, without regard to their own aspirations."

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Fast forward to 2013: the savage Muslim Brotherhood torched some 63 Egyptian churches and many Christian businesses. Obama ignored the bloodbath and spent the crisis dining out, golfing, power-partying, and vacationing in exclusive Martha’s Vineyard on the taxpayers' dime.

Rice stupidly advised Boobamba to phone Gen al-Sisi from MV. But al Sisi refused to take the call knowing Boobamba planned to order the general to call off his beating back the Muslim Brotherhood .

OBAMA: "First, let's make sure the cameras get this staged
photo-op to pump your resume. Now what lie should I tell the
American people about Egypt?"

RICE: "After saying 'the Taliban is on the run and Osama Bin Laden
is dead'.... tell 'em Gen al-Sissi is a big sissy for not taking your phone call."

13 posted on 12/28/2013 5:24:47 PM PST by Liz
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To: Libloather
Hey David D. Kirkpatrick, what difference at this point does it make?

Shill.

5.56mm

14 posted on 12/28/2013 5:26:45 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: All
FIVE SECOND BENGHAZI QUIZ

(Q.) Who holds the key to unlocking the Benghazi secrets Obama and Hillary will not divulge?

(A.) That would be Egyptian Gen Al-Sisi who drove blood-thirsty Muslims out of Egyptian politics and has vowed to rebuild the 63 churches torched by the Muslim Brotherhood.

Right now, sitting in an Egyptian jail is a man al-Sisi arrested for inciting terrorism. That man is Gehad al Hadad....once employed by the tax-exempt Clinton Foundation.

THE CLINTONS IN-HOUSE MUSLIM TERRORIST the Clintons tax-exempt foundation employed a Muslim Brotherhood activist.

Gehad el-Haddad
(The stupid Clintons did not know Gehad was Farsi for "jihad")

Gehad also knows how the Muslim Brotherhood launders money to finance terrorism, using "tax-exempt foundations."

As far as I know, Egypt does not have any limitations on obtaining information from terrorists---like prohibiting waterboarding, etc.

Rest assured---we will know everything---all in good time.

15 posted on 12/28/2013 5:27:50 PM PST by Liz
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To: Libloather

Candy! Check the transcript!


16 posted on 12/28/2013 5:32:34 PM PST by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Libloather
Months of investigation by The New York Times, centered on extensive interviews with Libyans in Benghazi who had direct knowledge of the attack there and its context, turned up no evidence that Al Qaeda or other international terrorist groups had any role in the assault.

So, the NYTs is contradicting even the 0bama administration and numerous elements of our government who produced evidence that it was committed by a branch of Al Qaeda? My BS meter is pegged.

17 posted on 12/28/2013 5:34:30 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Libloather

Any “extensive interviews” with the man that is STILL locked up for making a video? How about the 40 or so survivors?

Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?


18 posted on 12/28/2013 5:34:48 PM PST by The Toll
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To: Yaelle; RightGeek; jazusamo

See post #12. That cartoon should have gone viral. Maybe it still can. To influence the low info voters, you need to be able to speak at the level of comic books.


19 posted on 12/28/2013 5:35:53 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Liz
Good evening. I hope you are doing well.

Help me remember here, didn't al-Zawahiri praise his son for carrying out the attack in Benghazi? Saw it on video somewhere...

Thanks.

5.56mm

20 posted on 12/28/2013 5:36:14 PM PST by M Kehoe
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