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NTSB: Hawaii plane floated 25 mins, then sank.
AP via Star Advertiser ^ | Dec 31, 2013 | AP via Star Advertiser

Posted on 01/01/2014 3:18:25 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo

The National Transportation Safety Board says in a preliminary accident report that a small commercial plane that crash-landed in Hawaii waters floated for about 25 minutes before sinking.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: alicedewey; alicedeweybio; birthcertificate; certifigate; fuddy; hawaii; industrialdemocracy; lid; naturalborncitizen; subud
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To: Jane Long

I guess my computer has stored the image (somehow) and it’s only visible to me... I’ll take your word for it. I’m going to reboot my computer. I closed the browser, and the image was still on the thread (from my viewpoint.) Hey is that you guys at the NSA, having fun with me? DHS? DOJ? Eric? Eric Holder? John? John Brennan, is that you?


81 posted on 01/02/2014 7:38:09 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: justiceseeker93; Brown Deer

http://www.subud-sica.org/index.php?hkat=7&ukat=24

Unitarian Interfaith, Muslim Professors and students at East West Centre, the entire enchilada. Crazy people.


83 posted on 01/02/2014 7:39:36 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: freepersup

The passenger manifest would be interesting to see.


84 posted on 01/02/2014 7:49:17 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, the likely erasure of a named Wiki article about a woman at the center of a major national cyclone is an attempt, in Soviet Union style, to make her a non-person. Fuddy’s winding up dead - the only person on the plane who died and the only one not basically ok after the crash - is apparently not enough assurance that she has sufficiently disappeared as a witness for those who benefit from her no longer being able to testify in person about anything. Someone is mighty afraid of people researching and thinking about her and her job and personal history and her hands-on role(s) in the saga of Obama birth questions and convoluted, illogical and twisted answers and experts’ claims of forgeries. Someone does not want her around even as an historical record that can serve as speaking, even testifying from the grave.


85 posted on 01/02/2014 8:02:57 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Jane Long

Here’s a start:

A pilot and 8 passengers; one of which was a swimmer-

Pilot
Passenger # 1 Loretta Fuddy, age 65, Hawaii State Health Director.
Passenger # 2 Keith Yamamoto, Fuddy’s Deputy Director.
Passenger # 3
Passenger # 4
Passenger # 5
Passenger # 6
Passenger # 7
Passenger # 8

A Coast Guard helicopter plucked 3 people out of the water. The Maui Fire Department rescued 5 people out of the water.
One person swam to shore. Reported up thread as being 70 years in age.

http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/usatoday/article/3996657


86 posted on 01/02/2014 8:39:51 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup

A pilot and 8 passengers; one of which was a swimmer-

Pilot
Passenger # 1 Loretta Fuddy, age 65, Hawaii State Health Director.
Passenger # 2 Keith Yamamoto, Fuddy’s Deputy Director.
Passenger # 3 Rosa Key, wife of Jacob Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 4 Jacob Key, husband of Rosa Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 5
Passenger # 6
Passenger # 7
Passenger # 8

http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/exclusive-2-survivors-in-molokai-plane-crash-speak-out/-/8905354/23461364/-/di8tpyz/-/index.html


87 posted on 01/02/2014 8:47:48 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup

A pilot and 8 passengers; one of which was a swimmer-

Pilot————Clyde Kawasaki
Passenger # 1 Loretta Fuddy, age 65, Hawaii State Health Director.
Passenger # 2 Keith Yamamoto, Fuddy’s Deputy Director.
Passenger # 3 Rosa Key, wife of Jacob Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 4 Jacob Key, husband of Rosa Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 5 C. Phillip Hollstein Jr., age 70, swimmer.
Passenger # 6
Passenger # 7
Passenger # 8

http://news.yahoo.com/hawaii-survivor-plane-lost-power-then-glided-185711326.html


88 posted on 01/02/2014 8:55:06 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: Venturer

bad luck?


89 posted on 01/03/2014 8:42:54 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Fred Nerks; justiceseeker93; butterdezillion; LucyT; little jeremiah
FINDING SUBUD is a young stranger's 9 minute documentary glimpse into the world of Subud.

What is Subud? A Discussion By John Bennett and Steve Allen.

Fourth Subud World Congress Cillandak Indonesia 1971

Sydney 8th World Subud congress in 1989

Where does the word "Subud" come from? It's a contraction of three Sanskrit words:
Susila: Noble or high quality or correct behavior,
Budhi: Spark of the divine that is in everything,
Dharma: Possibility to surrender and be guided by God or the universe.

Loretta Fuddy Dead ?, Keith Yamamoto, Orly Taitz, Subud And Strange Birth Certificate Stories

December 12-13, 2011 -- Barack Obama is not a secret Muslim but he may be a secret Subud sect member

This would make sense, considering that the future president and his mother lived together in Jakarta, Indonesia from 1967 until 1971, when young “Barry Soetoro” was sent to live with his grandparents – Stanley and Madelyn Dunham – in Honolulu, Hawaii, where grandma was vice-president of the Bank of Hawaii.

You see a lot of interest in banking amongst the Dunham women. In the 1980’s Ann Dunham Soetoro would take interest in microfinance programs and through her work with the Ford Foundation would be linked up with Peter Geithner, father of current Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.

Madsen suggests that Obama’s mother was linked to Subud, possibly going back to the late 1960’s, and that she instilled that interest in her son and possibly her daughter – Obama’s half-sister, 41-year-old Maya Soetoro-Ng, who describes herself as “philosophically Buddhist.” And while you can be Buddhist or Christian or whatever, you can still be a follower of Subud and Bapak’s teachings.

A Muslim, Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo, better known to his adherents as “Pak Subuh” or “Bapak,” began growing Subud (pronounced Soo-bood) in Semarang, on the northern coast of the Indonesian island of Java in the 1920’s and by the 1940’s was officially recognized in Indonesia. Subud is an acronym that stands for three Javanese words of Sanskrit derivation, Susila Budhi Dharma, and roughly means man and his inner force giving himself over to and surrending to Almighty God.

While some media has focused on Mitt Romney’s connections to the Mormon sect and its cult-like history, little attention is being paid to the Indonesian religious sect known as Subud. The mystical Javanese religious sect, founded by Indonesian Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo, also known as “Bapak,” attracted the interest of President Obama’s mother, Ann Dunham Soetoro. Furthermore, Subud had a number of members at the East-West Center at the University of Hawaii, where Obama’s mother met Barack Obama’s father and step-father. There has been speculation that Obama’s mother’s close relationship with a number of Subud cultists in Indonesia and her Subud-style memorial service in Hawaii are indications that she, also, was an adherent of the Subud sect. Ann Soetoro also hired for her World Bank projects a number of Subud sect members from the International Subud Center in Cilandak on the outskirts of Jakarta

Bapak was a key player in the 1965 CIA-engineered coup against President Sukarno in Indonesia. Subud has also been accused of being yet another CIA mind-control religious operation. The Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) and Sukarno’s Foreign Minister, Dr. Subandrio, as well as Ceylon’s assassinated Prime Minister, Solomon Bandaranaike, accused Subud of being a CIA front. The sect continues to maintain a religious compound in Front Royal, Virginia, about an hour’s drive from CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia.

90 posted on 01/03/2014 1:57:58 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT

Revealed: Inilah Wanita di Balik Bintang Mahaputera untuk Ibu Obama

November 17, 2010 · 9:54 pm

NOT many people know the figures behind the academic career Stanley Ann Dunham-Soetoro, mother of United States President Barack Hussein Obama.

The above studies were done in Indonesia for a dozen years, who later wrote the dissertation for my doctorate in anthropology at the University of Hawaii at Manoa (UHM) with the title "Peasant blacksmithing in Indonesia: Surviving and Thriving Against all Odds", Ann Dunham-Soetoro Stars Mahaputera get from the Indonesian government.

The star was given the President in the middle of a state dinner welcoming President Obama's visit last week (9/11).

According to the president, Obama's mother had shown a high dedication and sacrifice in doing scientific research in Indonesia.

"The vision and the result was a brilliant researcher who helps a lot of intellectual community and the Indonesian government today," said SBY.

Is Professor Alice Dewey, who has a role behind the work of Ann Dunham-Soetoro academic. Suratmi, thereby acquired the Java name of a headman when he lived in Indonesia for a series of research on the lives of people in rural Java in the 1950s and 1960s.

Photo above: Alice Dewey holds book-Ann Dunham Soetoro was carrying when visiting Indonesia, March 2010. One more copy of the book given to the Sultan and the Queen of Jogja.

Alice is the chairman of the dissertation committee that guides the process of researching and writing the dissertation Ann Dunham. He was one of the great anthropologist owned Uhm and the United States. So much for close ties between Alice Dewey and Ann Dunham-Soetoro, so both of them are like family. Alice Dewey several times to stay at home while Ann Dunham-Soetoro still living in Indonesia. Vice versa, though both parents live in Hawaii, once on a time-Soetoro and Ann Dunham Soetoro Maya, his daughter from marriage to Lolo Soetoro, Alice Dewey settled at home in Honolulu.

Like his brother, Barack Obama also has a small close relationship with Alice Dewey.

Alice Dewey received a copy of the book when Ann Dunham-Soetoro, published in Indonesian, January 2009. Indonesian edition that contains chapter one and chapter five dissertation Ann Dunham was published a year earlier than the English version.

Photo taken in the workspace Alice Dewey in Saunders Building, uhm.

In the early 1950s, Alice Dewey and a doctoral student at Harvard University the other received a scholarship from MIT to do research in Java. Alice is the focus of the study of the life and social interaction in traditional markets. Other Harvard students who fall into this group is Clifford Geertz (religious and traditional values), hilderd Geertz (field of family organization), Donal fagg (field of organizational administration, Robert Jay (areas of life and the rural economy), and Edward Ryan (field of community Chinese in Java).

From the Harvard team / MIT is the best known, in particular, by the Indonesian public is Clifford Geertz. Generally, Geertz students-known as the theory that the introduction of gentry-abangan, which until now still used by many researchers at home and abroad for analyzing political life in Indonesia. Research on agricultural involution in Java is considered to have an important role behind the shift towards the Indonesian economy from agriculture to industry import substitution and export orientation. Geertz's works have a place in the hearts of nations and international institutions pengucur debt, and of course academics supporting developmentalism.

Alice Dewey as a speaker in a seminar on the work of Ann Dunham-Soetoro academic. Other speakers were Deputy Jakarta Governor Aurora Tambunan (far left), Vice-Chairman of the Council Laode Ida (second from right) and Minister of Marine Affairs and Fisheries Fadel Muhammad (far right).

In contrast to Clifford Geertz, Alice Dewey research on interactions in traditional market economies shows that local values ​​and traditional economic patterns have a great chance to become the foundation of the national economy. However, this approach of course requires that the government have the same perspective.

Unfortunately, Alice Dewey's approach has no place. New Order regime which stands at the end of 1960 voted in favor of the development model a la Western Europe after the Second World War. Indonesian technocrats at that time believed that only by debt (and political stability), obtained as Western European countries through the Marshall Plan, Indonesia can align themselves with other industrialized countries. This theory appears to work at first glance. Indonesia in the early 1980s became one of the wonders of Asia. But nearly two decades after that, the economic bubble burst. The Indonesian economy fell into the most deadly point, which in turn spawned the worst political crisis since Indonesian independence.

Visitors who packed seminar on Ann Dunham and Community Economy held at the Mercantile Club, WTC, Jakarta. Obama's family and relatives in Indonesia also friends Ann Dunham lived in Indonesia during the seminar participated menhadiri.

Alice Dewey, who after returning from Indonesia chose to settle in Hawaii and taught at UHM, smell the danger that far in advance. But there's not much that can be done, in addition to spreading the belief that the development approach offered by scholars such as Clifford Geertz who gave birth involution and even paradoxical development.

Alice Dewey and Eva Wahab with writers who became one of the moderators in the seminar on the academic work of Ann Dunham.

Alice Dewey tells her research experience in Indonesia with students who participate in the program at Harvard / MIT in the 1950s to the Dean Fisip ago Univeritas Islam (UIN) Syarif Hidayatullah, Bachtiar Effendi, in UIN, Chester.

Alice Dewey among students of international class Fisip UIN.

In 1973, after six years living in Indonesia, Ann Dunham-Soetoro chose to return back to Hawaii to continue her studies in anthropology majors. This is the first time he met with Alice Dewey. Six years of experience in Indonesia, especially in the early days of political and economic transition of Indonesia, enough for Ann Dunham-Soetoro to understand the mindset of Alice Dewey.

Like the teacher, Ann Dunham-Soetoro also see the same issue. And that's what makes his return to Indonesia and tried to fill the empty space left behind and forgotten developmental approach: economic practices carried out by the people in the rural areas, which even a cursory look small but it is actually the backbone of the national economy. In the early part of his dissertation, Ann Dunham-Soetoro emphatically said that the results of research done generating approach contrasts with the developmental approach introduced Geertz.

Alice Dewey in front of the family home in Pakualaman Norobangun, Jogjakarta. Norobangun family friend Alice Dewey is a long time.

Alice Dewey in his room at the family home Norobangun. In this room, Alice Dewey storing a collection of his best batiks.

Alice Dewey with M. Maggie Norobangun and Mr. Norobangun. Sometime before leaving for Jogjakarta palace to meet the Sultan and the Queen.

Ann Dunham-Soetoro completing his dissertation in 1992. According to the author the story of Alice Dewey, before she died in 1995, Ann Dunham-Soetoro had time to write a letter to him, which, among others, requested that the dissertation was published in Indonesian.

Only 13 years later Alice Dewey will be able to fulfill it. Ann Dunham-Soetoro dissertation published as a book for the first time by the publisher Mizan and translated into Indonesian with the title "the archipelago Iron Warrior-warrior" in September 2008. The new English edition published Duke University Press in late 2009.

Alice Dewey King Jogja wait in the waiting room at the Yellow House in the palace complex. He was wearing a batik parang one of the best he had since long.

Alice Dewey submit the English edition of the book Ann Dunham to the Sultan and the Queen of Jogja. While Sultan Hamengkubuwono submit a book about the palace and the Queen of Jogja gives green batik.

Alice Dewey pictured with Sultan Hamengkubuwono X and GKR Hemas kompeks before leaving the palace.

In March 2010, Alice Dewey visited Indonesia to attend an academic seminar on the work of Ann Dunham-Soetoro organized by the Rakyat Merdeka Online.

He is now 82 years old to fly solo from Honolulu to Jakarta to meet with Indonesian public and explain his academic work produced. Obama's way of thinking, so Alice, really connect with Ann Dunham's mind. Global capitalism has shown its failure, and slowly but surely will meet destruction. Obama, he said, trying to rescue the U.S. economy and the world in general from that peril.

Alice Dewey to be a star at Soekarno-Hatta Airport before returning to Honolulu.

While waiting for the plane that would take him back to Honolulu, Alice Dewey campaign took time to watch the Health Care Bill on Youtube with Mega Simarmata journalist.

Is Obama going to work?

The debate on this is what makes the author believes that Obama's visit was very short last week should be viewed from the angle of a more substantial, not merely superficial (surface phenomenon) and artificial (fetched) alone. Also the author believes is not enough to understand the mindset of Ann Dunham-Soetoro simply by giving it Mahaputera star.

91 posted on 01/03/2014 2:35:49 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer; GregNH
Utterly fascinating, brilliant post, once again I notice there are no genders in that language, no insult to Alice who could be a he or a she...who knows?

This statement by Alice sort of popped out at me:

Global capitalism has shown its failure, and slowly but surely will meet destruction. Obama, he said, trying to rescue the U.S. economy and the world in general from that peril.

~~~

Lord, save us from people like Alice, she/he's nothing but a sycophant to the Indonesian elite and a good little commie just like her grandfather John Dewey.

92 posted on 01/03/2014 9:16:49 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Wow. Some kind of Indonesian Mozlem cult or something???


93 posted on 01/03/2014 9:22:27 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

YIKES! She’s the grand daughter of John Dewey!!!

Giant horrible puking shudder.


94 posted on 01/03/2014 9:24:22 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Brown Deer

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Intercollegiate_Socialist_Society

The Intercollegiate Socialist Society (later known as the League for Industrial Democracy) was formed on September 12, 1905 at a meeting of approximately one hundred people who met in a loft over Peck’s Restaurant, at 140 Fulton Street in lower Manhattan. The purpose of the meeting was to strategize the overthrow of the Christian worldview that still pervaded much of American culture and to replace it with the ideas of a then rather unknown writer by the name of Karl Marx.[1]

SNIP

The following were leaders of the organization:[1]

Intercollegiate Socialist Society
Upton Sinclair, founder
Jack London, first president
Clarence Darrow, who worked as an attorney
Walter Lippmann, later author and director of the Council on Foreign Relations, president of the Harvard Chapter
Walter Reuther, future president of United Auto Workers, headed the Wayne State chapter
Eugene V. Debs, went on to become the five-time Socialist candidate for president, leader at Columbia.
W. E. B. DuBois, later became an official of the NAACP and a CPUSA member
Victor L. Berger, Wisconsin, who became the first Socialist elected to Congress.
League for Industrial Democracy
Norman Thomas, Socialist candidate for president, leader behind the scenes
Robert Lovett, editor of the New Republic, first president
Paul Blanshard, field secretary
John Dewey, honorary vice president (1941), league vice president (1930s)
Reinhold Niebuhr, theologian, treasurer

Members
The following is a list of those who were members of the organization:[1]

Robert N. Baldwin, founder of the American Civil Liberties Union
Charles Beard, historian
Carroll Binder, editor of the Minneapolis Tribune
Helen Gahagan Douglas, defeated by Richard Nixon for the U.S. Senate
Felix Frankfurter, Supreme Court justice
Sidney Hook, the educational social philosopher
Edna St. Vincent Millay, poet
Henry Morgenthau, Jr., one of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s most trusted economic advisers
Walter and Victor Reuther, United Auto Workers
Will Rogers, Jr., humorist
Franklin Roosevelt, Jr., the president’s son
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., historian


95 posted on 01/03/2014 9:29:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

I wonder if Subud practices (I assume it has some kind of practices) involved chanting and incense. Remembering Kam Kuwata’s experience of seeing Zero stumbling and pale at the Dem convention, going into a room with a couple of people. Door closed, Kuwata hears “weird chanting” and smells something like incense (unless it was that drug homos take) and 20 minutes later Zero pops out looking high as a kite.


96 posted on 01/03/2014 9:30:55 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Brown Deer

Early career as Marxist[edit]At the beginning of his career, Hook was a prominent expert on Karl Marx’s philosophy and was himself a Marxist. He attended the lectures of Karl Korsch in Berlin in 1928 and conducted research at the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow in the summer of 1929.[2] At first, he wrote enthusiastically about the Soviet Union, and, in 1932, supported the Communist Party’s candidate, William Z. Foster, when he ran for President of the United States. However, Hook broke completely with the Comintern in 1933, holding its policies responsible for the triumph of Nazism in Germany. He accused Joseph Stalin of putting “the needs of the Russian state” over the needs of the international revolution.[3]

However, Hook remained active in some of the causes of the far Left during the Great Depression. In 1933, with James Burnham, Hook was one of the organizers of the American Workers Party, led by the Dutch-born pacifist minister A.J. Muste.[4] Hook also debated the meaning of Marxism with radical Max Eastman in a series of public exchanges.[5] (Eastman, like Hook, had studied under John Dewey at Columbia University.) In the late 1930s, Hook assisted Leon Trotsky in his efforts to clear his name in a special Commission of Inquiry headed by Dewey, which investigated Stalinist charges made against Trotsky during the Moscow Trials.


97 posted on 01/03/2014 9:31:21 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: little jeremiah

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3107346/posts?page=90#90

Fuddy was a member, the cult was entrenched in the East West Centre Hawaii. Go back to START.


98 posted on 01/03/2014 9:34:01 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

Wowzers.


99 posted on 01/03/2014 9:34:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

Will read everything tomorrow.

This is absolutely amazing. Gets worse and worse and more and more incestuous and incredibly evil. I wonder if MX was into this Subud stuff.


100 posted on 01/03/2014 9:35:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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