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How Global Warming Can Make Cold Snaps Even Worse [Polar Vortex!]
MSN.com ^ | 07 January 2014 | Eric Holthaus

Posted on 01/07/2014 1:15:19 PM PST by zeestephen

In fact, despite the trolling of Donald Trump and other climate change deniers, global warming is probably contributing to the record cold, as counter-intuitive as that may seem. The key factor is a feedback mechanism of climate change known as Arctic amplification.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arcticamplification; climatechange; globalwarming; polarvortex
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1 posted on 01/07/2014 1:15:19 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

Eric is reaching.


2 posted on 01/07/2014 1:18:38 PM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: zeestephen

He gots a graph. That means it’s scientificall.


3 posted on 01/07/2014 1:18:57 PM PST by DManA
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To: zeestephen

A true believer. Among the first to be shot if the collectivists gain total power.


4 posted on 01/07/2014 1:19:24 PM PST by lurk
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To: zeestephen

I’ve heard them try this carp before. I didn’t buy it then and I’m not buying it now. They can go sell it to the guys trapped in the Antarctic ice.


5 posted on 01/07/2014 1:19:41 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: zeestephen

Utter nonsense. These assertions are without a shred of scientific underpinning. Notice how he begins by calling those who believe in a rational scientific process “deniers.” When one starts out with name-calling,you know there isn’t a whole lot of logic behind the argument.


6 posted on 01/07/2014 1:20:18 PM PST by Blennos
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To: zeestephen
Snow and ice are disappearing from the Arctic region at unprecedented rates...

That is a bald-faced lie.

7 posted on 01/07/2014 1:20:25 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: zeestephen

This whole line of propaganda actually works. Ask most folks under 30. They know more about climate change than the US constitution.

I read an internet post by an uninformed yout on a website unrelated to politics. “They had to start naming winter storms because they are so much more powerful than before”


8 posted on 01/07/2014 1:20:38 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Blennos

It’s colder because it’s hotter. See?


9 posted on 01/07/2014 1:21:15 PM PST by FAA
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To: zeestephen

Love how their ice coverage chart stops at 2010 to cover up that there was more ice coverage this year than recent years.


10 posted on 01/07/2014 1:21:15 PM PST by thorvaldr
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To: zeestephen

If hell froze over this idiot would blame it on global warming.


11 posted on 01/07/2014 1:21:41 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: zeestephen

It was bound to come - making things hotter makes things colder. Liberal Logic.


12 posted on 01/07/2014 1:21:54 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office)
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To: zeestephen
I gots yer Arctic Amplification right here.
13 posted on 01/07/2014 1:21:54 PM PST by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: zeestephen

“global warming is probably contributing to the record cold”

Ignorance is strength - George Orwell, in 1984

Global warming causes cold - MSM

We have reached a period of Orwellian dysfunction and dishonesty.


14 posted on 01/07/2014 1:22:53 PM PST by detective
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To: FAA

EXACTLY!! But if it was hotter, it wouldn’t be because it was colder, it would be because we made it hotter.

So if its colder, its because we made it hotter, and if its hotter, its because we made it hotter.

Liberals are idiots.


15 posted on 01/07/2014 1:23:42 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office)
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To: zeestephen

So, in the middle of summer, during a heat wave, you can claim it is global cooling that is causing the sweltering temps. It works like this: The cold air in the polar regions is expanding, concentrating the hot air in those places experiencing the record heat.

See, lojik is easy!


16 posted on 01/07/2014 1:24:23 PM PST by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: zeestephen

Donald Trump is discussing the global warming hoax on the Savage Nation right now.


17 posted on 01/07/2014 1:24:44 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: thorvaldr
Love how their ice coverage chart stops at 2010 to cover up that there was more ice coverage this year than recent years.


18 posted on 01/07/2014 1:24:47 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: zeestephen
I'm convinced we'll be in the middle of the new "Little Ice Age" and these bastards will still be spouting global warming crap.
This is a religion for the real warmist nut cases.
19 posted on 01/07/2014 1:25:43 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: zeestephen

IS THERE ANYTHING CARBON CAN’T DO?


20 posted on 01/07/2014 1:26:38 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: FAA

But it’s ARCTIC AMPLIFICATION! The liberal left knew this was going to happen when they named their cause Globull Warming - you people are just too stupid to understand true science and Cold Hard Facts!


21 posted on 01/07/2014 1:27:34 PM PST by punknpuss
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To: zeestephen

I only believe it if it comes from Al Sharpton wearing a lab coat.


22 posted on 01/07/2014 1:30:53 PM PST by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: zeestephen

Its freezing her in Maryland.

I knew it was global warming

Repent

Give up your fossil fuels before we all freeze to death

Smoke weed instead.


23 posted on 01/07/2014 1:30:53 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: zeestephen

One fondly hopes that the ‘climate change’ scam will be finally rejected as its proponents begin claiming that bitter cold is ‘really’ because of global warming. Using the pejorative ‘deniers’ for those of us who have always claimed the ‘climate change’ theory was a scam to tax wealthy nations - primarily the U.S. - is pointedly insulting. The absurd claim that its colder now because, you see, the earth is getting warmer is beyond being counter intuitive but actually defies logic.


24 posted on 01/07/2014 1:31:03 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: zeestephen

Does this a-hole think no one will question why colder weather was not part of the globull worming theory to begin with? Does he really believe people will ignore the fact that the GW narrative changes often because the previous narrative was shown by reality to be false. Every time one of these warming cultists or greedy government professors tries this crap the only response should be “That wasn’t your original story, were you lying then or are you lying now?”


25 posted on 01/07/2014 1:33:05 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: zeestephen

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.


26 posted on 01/07/2014 1:33:12 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: zeestephen
The commenters are for 90% merciless against the alarmist writing this article. It's also posted at http://qz.com/163636 (Quartz.com), where they were clever enough not to allow comments.

OTOH, I was vastly outnumbered by alarmist friends of a poster on FB that that article (in qz.com) got cited.

"One person and God makes a majority!"

HF

27 posted on 01/07/2014 1:33:17 PM PST by holden
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To: zeestephen

I again quote Colonel Potter:

“Mule Cookies.”


28 posted on 01/07/2014 1:34:39 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: zeestephen

Just another made up term to support the next lie. Just a term used by the next public lairs. Just the next desperate grasp at not losing those big dollar research grants.


29 posted on 01/07/2014 1:39:09 PM PST by oldenuff2no ( .)
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To: zeestephen

Listen up people! It could be shitting out there and it would be attibuted to global warming. If it does nothing or everything it is global warming. If it gets hot=global warming. If it gets cold=global warming. If it stays the same temperature day and night for months at a time=global warming. AND THEY HAVE THE DATA TO PROVE IT.

They have been disproved by lying and faking their own data. Now they say that they misinterpreted their own faked data and it is going to be warmer than ever.


30 posted on 01/07/2014 1:39:11 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: zeestephen
Not just counter intuitive.
Dumb !
31 posted on 01/07/2014 1:39:54 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: DManA

That graph and five dollars will get you a cup of coffee down at Starbucks.

These total scientific illiterates know NOTHING of thermodynamics, and most especially, of the very unique properties of water vapor-water-ice. When water moves from one phase to another there are VERY large heat signatures involved. It takes 80 calories of heat to change one gram of ice to one gram of water, at 0 degrees Centigrade. It also takes one calorie of heat to raise the temperature of water from 0 degrees C to 1 degree C, 100 calories to warm the water from 0 degrees C to 100 degrees C. To change one gram of water to one gram of water vapor, it requires 540 calories, so VAST quantities of heat must be either lost or gained to change from one phase to the next. As long as there is liquid water, runaway global warming is not a very likely scenario, at least not until all the water is vaporized and boils off into space.

Water vapor, being lighter than the earthly atmosphere that surrounds it, rises far above the boundary layer that is the earth’s surface, and in rising, radiates its heat to space, cooling to the point where it forms microcrystals of ice, the high lacy cirrus clouds we all recognize. But the microcrystals, being larger and heavier than the surrounding atmosphere, then sink back to earth’s surface, and while passing through warmer parts of the air, absorbs heat again and becomes liquid, falling to earth as rain, or if it does not melt, as snow.

The ice-water-vapor cycle is one of the most powerful engines of meteorology, and is the prime driving force behind just about every weather phenomenon we know. And solar energy is the fuel that drives this engine.

Human beings cannot make even a tiny patch on the vast amounts of energy that are exchanged each and every day as earth turns upon its axis.


32 posted on 01/07/2014 1:45:33 PM PST by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Sweet Jesus, that is an ugly, ugly man.

Something is very wrong with that person.


33 posted on 01/07/2014 1:49:24 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: alloysteel

According to this site Lake Superior alone loses 29 billion gallons of water PER DAY through evaporation.

http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/08/20/where-did-the-water-go-busting-5-myths-about-water-levels-on-the-great-lakes/


34 posted on 01/07/2014 1:52:25 PM PST by DManA
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To: zeestephen
As a scientist (who might even know a few things about weather and climate) I always cringe when people think that there is such a thing as "settled science".

Global warming is (arguably) a mere hypothesis; and, when advancing an hypothesis, a true scientist invites critical analysis. (And does not insult with names such as "deniers".)

The proponents of global warming appear to grasp at preposterous rationales with religious-like hysteria, seeking to intentionally obfuscate what an impartial person would conclude (it's cold).

Today's global warming mongers have scientific methods in common yesterday's snake handlers. (Okay, one little insult. They earned it.)

.

35 posted on 01/07/2014 1:53:28 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: detective

Reminds me of that old country song lyric “that’s my story and I’m sticking to it”.


36 posted on 01/07/2014 1:54:03 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: zeestephen

They had some ‘expert’ on a segment with Stephanie Abrams on the TWC touting something similar where the current ‘warm period’ in Russia was the result of climate change affecting us here with subzero temps. I think Stephanie is also a believer in man-made climate changes. Keep the faith radical lefties.


37 posted on 01/07/2014 1:56:38 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: zeestephen

The comments at the article are ok to read..


38 posted on 01/07/2014 1:59:54 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: zeestephen

eric... you are a liar and may one day face prosecution under the RICO ACT. Keep lying jerkface!


39 posted on 01/07/2014 2:02:46 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: zeestephen
"Polar Vortex... Arctic Amplification"... newly applied terms to sell the same old BULL$HIT to the American public.

They're trying to make us believe that Global Warming is what's causing much of the Country to be in the deep freeze.

Utter and complete BS.

40 posted on 01/07/2014 2:07:38 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Not just counter intuitive.
Dumb !

To us yes it is dumb, but to their constituents, it is brilliant.

Maybe it is time we understand that being right is not a winning strategy, fooling the voters is.

41 posted on 01/07/2014 2:08:16 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: zeestephen

Did you know you can unplug your fridge and burn logs in it, and the meat will freeze quickly and the milk will chill? It’s a Global Warming FACT!


42 posted on 01/07/2014 2:11:16 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: zeestephen

Scientists reject claims of record cold being caused by ‘global warming’ – Time Mag. blamed ‘polar vortex’ on ‘global cooling’ in 1974 – Special Report


43 posted on 01/07/2014 2:14:37 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: zeestephen

Yeah . . . that’s the ticket. . . .


44 posted on 01/07/2014 2:21:13 PM PST by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: zeestephen

So if warming feedback can cause freezing, why doesn’t my oven make ice?


45 posted on 01/07/2014 2:28:16 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: zeestephen

When I want my coffee super hot I put ice cubes in the cup.


46 posted on 01/07/2014 2:33:33 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: ZULU

And taking more of your money away will make you richer. If I get fatter will I lose weight? Let’s see if this guy lives longer if gets hit by a bus.


47 posted on 01/07/2014 2:41:42 PM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Is there anything Carbon can’t do???

Sustain life apparently.


48 posted on 01/07/2014 3:31:49 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: zeestephen
as counter-intuitive as that may seem

Translation: I'm, you know, lying my @$$ off.....

49 posted on 01/07/2014 5:19:08 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: zeestephen
Stay indoors. Wait 'til spring.


50 posted on 01/07/2014 5:22:39 PM PST by Daffynition (It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so.)
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