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Plane crashes, woman dies, survivor films and takes selfie
CNET ^ | 10 January 2014 | Chris Matyszczyk

Posted on 01/10/2014 1:52:43 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty

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To: The Sons of Liberty

It’s chilling that the next person people that bright people predicted would be knocked off for knowing the truth habout his birth certificate does wind up quickly dead. A lot of people have been paying attention and filing in their minds the record of all the sudden deaths of people who know more about Obama than Obama and his handlers want the public to know. The grandma in Hawaii was the first quick death right before the 2008 election. Obama and Michelle traveled to Hawaii as talk of the inconsistencies of his background were emerging. Google “Nahumlist” to see where someone has organized a list of links of highly suspicious deaths of people in Obama’s immediate radius, most of young people otherwise in the peak of health.


241 posted on 01/11/2014 7:05:23 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: freepersup

let me put my tinfoil hat on and throw some fuel into your fire..Yamamoto was deputy director could he have been in line for promotion in case of a vacancy? He also previously was administrator of the drug and alcohol abuse unit..what did he learn there?
ok back to reality.


242 posted on 01/11/2014 7:06:21 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

What I think will be the cause of death for Fuddy, will be myocardial infarction. The event was too much for the ol’ gal’s heart. Maybe, and more specifically- cardiogenic shock. Her heart beat so fast that the arteries literally could not deliver blood fast enough to her racing heart. Drowning is a possibility too. Yamamoto letting her drift away, smells of something untoward? Carelessness, callousness, negligence, intentional, I just don’t know? Like someone up-post offered- maybe Yamamoto clawed on Fuddy in a panic to stay afloat in an actual accidental way? The trouble is Fuddy’s historical position with Obama’s birth records. I - can’t - separate - the - connection - from - this - event.


243 posted on 01/11/2014 7:20:07 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup

You make some excellent points. Something about Yamamoto’s acct has struck quite a few people as odd. Perhaps it struck the investigators as odd too. I have only seen one acct that gives any rationale for the length of time it is taking to determine a cause of death [for Fuddy]. The investigator said the delay was due to the time involved in interviewing the survivors. Hmm. As you suggested, perhaps something doesn’t quite add up. Hopefully the results of the investigation will be released eventually. Ought to be very interesting to read—provided they are accurate.


244 posted on 01/11/2014 7:30:18 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fred Nerks
Pilot and Yamamoto are both Japanese from what I can see.

Yes, both their surnames are definitely Japanese. But pilot Kawasaki had a "buzz cut" hair style; the man in the image of the airplane occupants on the water, second person from the right, has longer hair plus Oriental skin tone and eyeglasses consistent with mug shots of Keith Yamamoto, Fuddy's deputy in the Hawaii Health Dept.

245 posted on 01/11/2014 7:40:34 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you for your reasoned observations. OK, we should be fair. Agreed. Also, I wasn’t there in Yamamoto’s shoes.

Oftentimes, I view things through the prism of my own eyes, then coin a response.

In other words- you drop dead next to me in the water, or are unresponsive, and your head is above the water, I’m either keeping ahold of you, or tying something to you, to keep you with me, corpse or not. In fact, I would be orchestrating the group to close in and form a circle, so that each of us could keep an eye on each other and lend encouragement. It’s my nature.

Maybe Yamamoto will offer more, dissuading my cynical opinions, and if so, I will apologize for my reactionary, suspect behavior.


246 posted on 01/11/2014 7:48:56 PM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: Fred Nerks; butterdezillion; LucyT; FR_addict; machogirl; hoosiermama; Fantasywriter; freepersup; ..
Addendum to my post # 245:

Pilot Kawasaki also appears to be wearing white shirt. Not exactly sure of the color of the shirt the second person from the right in the image at post # 45, but it is definitely not white. That, plus the aforementioned differences in hairstyle and age, plus the fact that Kawasaki is not wearing eyeglasses while the Oriental-looking man in the image at # 45 surely is, verifies that the man in the image, second person from the right, is almost surely Keith Yamamoto.

248 posted on 01/11/2014 8:03:41 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
Seems to me that Yamamoto is on the right near the doorway and the man on the wing blowing up the life-vest, possibly for the woman facing the camera who doesn't appear to have one, are the two unidentified 'tourists' - and the pilot is the man in the shite shirt shown on the video with blood on his face; he doesn't have a lifevest either:

Problem is, there are two people who have NOT been named.

249 posted on 01/11/2014 8:11:14 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: justiceseeker93

Correction - shite shirt should be WHITE SHIRT.


250 posted on 01/11/2014 8:23:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: justiceseeker93

Who are the people near the door?

251 posted on 01/11/2014 8:26:25 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: freepersup

And I’ll just mention that even in a light breeze, those inflated jackets act like a sail - the survivors would have been scattered over a considerable distance by the time there was any rescue. It would be interesting to see an image from above, just how far apart they were. They had nothing to hang onto after the aircraft went down. Evidently no one thought to form a human chain as you have suggested.
What wind there was would have scattered them as soon as the plane went down.


252 posted on 01/11/2014 8:34:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: justiceseeker93

“Where are he other two”. Are they also the two not identified?


253 posted on 01/11/2014 8:54:25 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: freepersup

I’m using your method:

A pilot and 8 passengers; one of which was a swimmer-

Pilot————Clyde Kawasaki, age 60
He’s seen swimming with a white shirt and no jacket, and blood on his face. He’s not in camera range.

Passenger # 1 Loretta Fuddy, age 65, Hawaii State Health Director.

She’s on the left near the door, her hair isn’t wet, she’s wearing a lifejacket.

Passenger # 2 Keith Yamamoto, Fuddy’s Deputy Director.

He’s there right beside her, holding onto her hand or her arm, he also is wearing a lifejacket.

Passenger # 3 Rosa Key, wife of Jacob Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 4 Jacob Key, husband of Rosa Key, from Oahu.

Rosa is hanging onto the wing of the aircraft, Jacob appears to be swimming towards the wing.

Passenger # 5 C. Phillip Hollstein Jr., age 70, swimmer, from Kailua.

Can’t see him.

Passenger # 6 Ferdinand Puentes, onboard impromptu videographer.

WE know he’s there because he took the video.

Passenger # 7
Passenger # 8

Are probably the man seen sitting on the wing, blowing up the lifevest for the woman in the water who doesn’t have one.

They are not identified by name, it has been suggested they were ‘tourists’.


254 posted on 01/11/2014 9:16:31 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

looks good now list them by seat numbers


255 posted on 01/11/2014 9:58:24 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

You’re cheeky, you know I can’t do that...but that aircraft was licenced to carry 9, which I assume to mean eight passengers and the pilot.
So from seats one through to 8, you have Fuddy and Yamamoto, and the Key couple sitting right behind them. That’s four.
Either in front or behind, the tourists sitting one on each side, and the photographer and the swimmer.

Four rows of two = eight people. Near enough?


256 posted on 01/11/2014 10:25:47 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

tourists probably in 1 a and 1b, fuddy 2a, yamamoto 2b, Key woman 3a, man 3b, swimmer 4a photographer 4b

I believe it could hold 9 passengers and pilot one passenger in the cockpit.


257 posted on 01/11/2014 10:49:40 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

extra seat in cockpit was for invisible CIA person.


258 posted on 01/11/2014 10:50:55 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone
There you go, the woman with the bare arms was sitting in the front on the left:

So it follows that the unnamed tourists sat in seats one and two, Fuddy and Yamamoto behind them in three and four, the Kay couple behind them in five and six, and that leaves seven and eight for the swimmer and the photographer.

All open to dispute of course, but I'm through.

259 posted on 01/11/2014 10:51:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: rolling_stone

Last one, promise:

“...There were a total of nine people, including the pilot, aboard the aircraft. Eight of those on board were rescued alive...”

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/12/hawaiis-dept-of-health-loretta-fuddy-dead-in-plane-crash-2846724.html


260 posted on 01/11/2014 11:05:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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