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COLD SHOCK: Warming up your car illegal!
WND.com ^ | January 10, 2014 | WND.com

Posted on 01/12/2014 4:35:45 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

WASHINGTON – The recent nationwide cold snap isn’t just making Americans uncomfortable. It’s turning some into lawbreakers.

The shocking news of state and local regulations that make it illegal to warm up your frozen car is hitting home in Texas, Maryland, Ohio, West Virginia, Colorado, Wisconsin, South Carolina – even some cities in Minnesota.

Who knew it could be illegal to run back inside while your car is warming up in winter – in a practice sometimes called “puffing”?

Many Americans are getting first-hand experience this brutal winter with the latest manifestation of what some call the “Nanny State.”

The reason for such laws is usually linked with the increased threat of vehicles being stolen – and some of them carry hefty fines for enticing car thieves to commit their crimes. The laws are a little fuzzy on the newer technology of “auto-start” vehicles specifically designed for the comfort of their drivers and passengers.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado; US: Maryland; US: Minnesota; US: Ohio; US: South Carolina; US: Texas; US: West Virginia; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: automobiles; climatechange; enginewear; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; nannystate; pollution; puffing; theft; warmingupcar
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1 posted on 01/12/2014 4:35:45 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

Nanny State in your cars PING!


2 posted on 01/12/2014 4:36:25 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; Bigg Red; cindy-true-supporter; ...

P.G. County, Maryland “Freak State” PING!


3 posted on 01/12/2014 4:37:43 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Kinda makes the remote starter illegal too.


4 posted on 01/12/2014 4:38:04 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Puffing”? Really? I thought it meant something else entirely.


5 posted on 01/12/2014 4:39:15 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I did it several mornings here near Fort Meade. Nannies never found me, I guess.


6 posted on 01/12/2014 4:39:38 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
the newer technology of “auto-start” vehicles

"Newer"?

First time I saw a car with this technology was in 1971 in Illinois. The car was from Minnesota.

7 posted on 01/12/2014 4:40:34 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There are frozen cars in Texas?


8 posted on 01/12/2014 4:41:04 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Around here it is legal to warm up or just idle the engine as long as the doors are locked (requires two keys. etc).


9 posted on 01/12/2014 4:41:14 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is it legal to do here in Florida?


10 posted on 01/12/2014 4:42:00 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The reason for such laws is usually linked with the increased threat of vehicles being stolen – and some of them carry hefty fines for enticing car thieves to commit their crimes.

Wait....

11 posted on 01/12/2014 4:42:28 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If the police are driving around the neighborhood looking for tickets to write, then they have too much free time on their hands.


12 posted on 01/12/2014 4:42:57 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Two of our three cars have a stick, and the auto has remote start.

I’m not too worried about either of the cars with the sticks. Most “youth” wouldn’t be able to get it out of the driveway without stalling it.


13 posted on 01/12/2014 4:43:15 PM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
and some of them carry hefty fines for enticing car thieves to commit their crimes.

Or being white is enticing blacks to do the knockout game.

14 posted on 01/12/2014 4:44:04 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They can KMA.


15 posted on 01/12/2014 4:45:07 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; upchuck

I looked up South Carolina and it looks like idling the engine applies only to commercial vehicles.


16 posted on 01/12/2014 4:45:39 PM PST by PistolPaknMama
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This proves global warming is true.


17 posted on 01/12/2014 4:46:10 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Any firsthand reports of actual tickets or fines being handed out? The article makes reference to “police ticketing unattended vehicle” but no specific citation anywhere for pre-warming. I dunno — seems a bit alarmist to me. Not arguing that there really are such nonsensical laws, but there are many such “laws” that stay on the books for years; e.g., in Kentucky it’s illegal to carry an ice cream cone in your back pocket.


18 posted on 01/12/2014 4:49:22 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: PistolPaknMama

Follow that concept...


19 posted on 01/12/2014 4:50:07 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

-40 here the other morning. I let my pickup (which was plugged in) run for 15 minutes before I left the house. Don’t really care about some law forbidding it. My skinny butt is not sitting in a vehicle that cold.


20 posted on 01/12/2014 4:50:07 PM PST by Dartman (CDN PM Stephen Harper may not be perfect, but we don't have to be ashamed or embarassed of him.)
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To: Starstruck
and some of them carry hefty fines for enticing car thieves to commit their crimes.

Or being white is enticing blacks to do the knockout game.

"Hold on...can we fine people for being white?"


21 posted on 01/12/2014 4:50:11 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: BwanaNdege
First time I saw a car with this technology was in 1971 in Illinois. The car was from Minnesota.

IIRC, I've seen DYI project on remote starters for cars in electronics magazines as well as amateur radio literature as far back as the 1970's.
22 posted on 01/12/2014 4:51:10 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: chrisser

they have auto starts for stick shifts too


23 posted on 01/12/2014 4:51:45 PM PST by digger48
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Stupid, stupid law based on nothing but sheer control. I have always warmed up the car first in the Winter. When the kids were babies.. I didn’t want to put them into a cold car. Now... I don’t want to get into a cold car and sit till it warms up. You know how cold it was here last week, TSR. I warmed the car up at least 15 minutes in the morning.


24 posted on 01/12/2014 4:51:48 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So it is illegal to take measures for your health, safety and engine shock?

Thanks liberals.


25 posted on 01/12/2014 4:52:17 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: COBOL2Java

They brag about making people fearful of everything.


26 posted on 01/12/2014 4:53:20 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: momtothree

but the State Nanny says it’s safer for you to struggle to survive the cold while wheeling out into traffic with iced over windows


27 posted on 01/12/2014 4:54:05 PM PST by digger48
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To: Cyber Liberty

Ummm...I don’t suppose that BETTER POLICING is in order? Or do we have to pay more taxes to get that...


28 posted on 01/12/2014 4:57:22 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: steve86

Is it illegal to leave front doors unlocked at night too?


29 posted on 01/12/2014 4:59:38 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: COBOL2Java

“Hold on...can we fine people for being white?”

Actually...if you think about it, effectively, this already exists. It does catch some people of other ethnicities/races, though.


30 posted on 01/12/2014 4:59:56 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
If they think they can keep me from warming up my car when it's frozen, they can osculum my infame. Bastards.
31 posted on 01/12/2014 5:01:15 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (If you liked the website, you'll LOVE the healthcare!)
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To: digger48

I guess a lot of us are criminals now. I have no intention of stopping either. First, the car feels like it runs better when it is warm. Secondly, I feel better when it is warm. I feel like such a gangsta’! LOL!


32 posted on 01/12/2014 5:01:42 PM PST by momtothree
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To: F15Eagle

Yep...And those leather seats need to be thawed out as well...

You know how much of a hazard it is driving with frozen glutes??? Its a huge distraction???

;-)


33 posted on 01/12/2014 5:03:59 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I think I just figured out why that women was trying to charcoal-thaw her car last week: she was trying to stay out of jail.


34 posted on 01/12/2014 5:04:26 PM PST by alancarp
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To: COBOL2Java
"Hold on...can we fine people for being white?"

No, but Juan Roberts (Traitor in Chief) has ruled you can tax them for it.

35 posted on 01/12/2014 5:04:34 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

We have it here in Jersey. I basically ignore the law. My town is virtually crime-free and if need to run back into the house while the car is running, so be it.


36 posted on 01/12/2014 5:05:49 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Still Thinking
No, but Juan Roberts (Traitor in Chief) has ruled you can tax them for it.

Brilliant!


37 posted on 01/12/2014 5:06:06 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: F15Eagle

There were last week when the San Antonio area dropped to 18 on one morning.

Quite comfy now though. lol


38 posted on 01/12/2014 5:07:26 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: digger48
but the State Nanny says it’s safer for you to struggle to survive the cold while wheeling out into traffic with iced over windows

I find I'm happier when I don't assume I'm supposed to do what stupid people tell me to do.

39 posted on 01/12/2014 5:07:38 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

my reaction too


40 posted on 01/12/2014 5:08:15 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
EPA Fines School Bus Company For ‘Excessive Idling’
41 posted on 01/12/2014 5:13:50 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Future Snake Eater

Wouldn’t that be in AA county, not PG?


42 posted on 01/12/2014 5:14:45 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I guess the ole saying:

“You can’t step outside your house without breaking the law” rings true.

F**K their silly laws, arrest me!


43 posted on 01/12/2014 5:15:06 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: PistolPaknMama

Reassuring . . . NOT!


44 posted on 01/12/2014 5:16:11 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: driftdiver

Yes, but only to cool down the interior before you drive away.


45 posted on 01/12/2014 5:17:35 PM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I never had a problem with this except for one clown in a preious apartment complex who would start his car and then go back inside for about an hour. I hate the noise of an idling engine for extended periods of time.


46 posted on 01/12/2014 5:18:26 PM PST by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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To: digger48
they have auto starts for stick shifts too

Unfortunately, neither of my vehicles' transmissions have a neutral sense switch in them - both use a clutch pedal switch. Some transmissions do, some don't. I wouldn't wire in a remote start unless it had a neutral sense. Too dangerous.

But I can go out and start them and leave them running without worrying about someone driving off with them...
47 posted on 01/12/2014 5:18:46 PM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

So, we’re penalizing people for exposing themselves to crime , huh?

Makes so much sense!


48 posted on 01/12/2014 5:18:55 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Are they actually going to send the police around to check for this? Such idiots we have enacting laws.


49 posted on 01/12/2014 5:18:56 PM PST by Bigg Red (Let the lying lips be dumb, which speak insolently against the righteous in pride and contempt.--Ps3)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Control freaks at ski areas in Soviet Red Hampshire have been doing this for a couple of years...


50 posted on 01/12/2014 5:20:02 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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