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Ayotte: Deal cuts military survivor benefits
The Hill ^ | 13 Jan 14 | Jeremy Herb

Posted on 01/13/2014 1:27:24 PM PST by SkyPilot

The Pentagon has determined that the budget deal passed last month cutting $6 billion in military pensions would also reduce survivor benefits, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) said Monday.

But the cuts to survivor benefits and two other programs related to combat and disability pay will be repealed in the omnibus spending bill, said a senior Senate aide familiar with the government funding measure expected to be released later Monday.

"At the end of the day, this will all be addressed," the aide said.

Ayotte has been one of the most vocal senators opposing the cut to military retirement benefits in the budget deal, which provides $31 billion in sequester relief to the Pentagon over the next two years. She pointed on Monday to the cuts to survivors' benefits as well as special combat compensation programs as new reasons to repeal the full $6 billion in pension cuts.

Ayotte asked the Pentagon to detail how the military pension cut in last month's budget deal would affect various benefit programs. The department told her that the reduction in the cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) for military retirement pay also reduces payments for survivors’ benefits and the combat compensation programs.

“The more I press the Pentagon for answers, the more I learn how egregious the military benefit cuts are in the budget deal,” Ayotte said in a statement Monday.

“The cost of living adjustment cuts unfairly shortchange military retirees, military survivors, and the combat-injured to pay for more Washington spending,” she said.

Ayotte is one of numerous lawmakers who have introduced legislation that would repeal the $6 billion retirement benefits cut that was included in the budget agreement reached by Budget Chairs Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.).

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ayotte; budget; military; wounded
A group of Republicans tried to undo the pension cut with Ayotte’s bill as an amendment to also offset a three-month unemployment insurance extension. But Democrats rejected Ayotte’s measure, which would prevent illegal immigrants from taking the additional child tax credit.

Incredible.

More bad news.......

The overall $6 billion retirement benefit cuts will not be repealed in the omnibus as some lawmakers had hoped, the aide said. Ryan has defended the military retirement benefit cuts...

Kudos to Sen Ayotte. I have not always agreed with everything, but on this issue she has been one of the few courageous voices standing up for our military, our disabled military, and our widows and widowers.


1 posted on 01/13/2014 1:27:24 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

RINO saving face.

Too late.


2 posted on 01/13/2014 1:31:56 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: SkyPilot

Isn’t it truly breathtaking how ‘some’ of these politicians have absolutely no fear or qualms about pissing off the people who know how to use the most modern military weapons available. And use them effectively I might add.

Either they are near brain-dead or they know something that makes doing this sort of thing practical and desirable.


3 posted on 01/13/2014 1:32:21 PM PST by The Working Man
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I took your pension money....I took your pension money.....ha ha......


4 posted on 01/13/2014 1:33:44 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot; Jet Jaguar

Democrats, Obama, Ryan, and Establishment Republicans hate our military.

They have mealy mouths at patriotic parades but behind closed doors they steal their money, the health care, their retirement compensation, and food from the mouths of their wives and children.

They say 6 billion, but that’s over 10 years. We’re talking about 600 million a year.

Last year, according to the Wall Street Journal, the US spent 2.2 billion dollars on Obama Phones.

Little thangs talkin’ trash to one other is more important than those who shed their blood for the nation being able to care for themselves and their dependents.


5 posted on 01/13/2014 1:34:17 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SkyPilot

It is way past time for an armed Veterans march on dc, just like what has happened in the past. This country is long on making promises to those who wear the uniform & then breaking them. I for one have had a belly full of their lies & crap!


6 posted on 01/13/2014 1:34:44 PM PST by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: The Working Man
The pensions cuts (for everyone, and that includes the widows and the disabled) only "saves" $0.6 Billion per year, out of a Federal appropriations bill that spends $1.1 Trillion just this next year.

This was never about saving big money.

Here is what I think happened:

- Ryan desperately wanted a deal, because he was always the guy with the big ideas, but never any leadership or legislative victories

- The Democrats would not budge on big Entitlements

- Hagel called Ryan, and offered him the scalps of military retirees, disabled military, surviving widows/widowers, and currently serving military on a silver platter ("Go ahead, cut their pensions....we will propose even more cuts to military pay, housing, and healthcare next year!")

- Ryan jumped at the chance, and he foolishly figured he could maybe even parlay the military pensions cuts in order to sell further cuts in other programs (i.e. "Hey, the military got screwed....and they had to take it....so maybe can we cut you guys too? Please?")

7 posted on 01/13/2014 1:41:54 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: xzins
They say 6 billion, but that’s over 10 years. We’re talking about 600 million a year. Last year, according to the Wall Street Journal, the US spent 2.2 billion dollars on Obama Phones.

I brought that up at a Christmas party I attended. Everyone was on my side, Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives, etc. I could not believe it. Americans are 10 to 1 against these cuts to our military pensions.

8 posted on 01/13/2014 1:43:56 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Jet Jaguar; 2ndDivisionVet

ping


9 posted on 01/13/2014 1:44:33 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Ryan desperately wanted a deal, because he was always the guy with the big ideas,

big LIBERAL ideas?

10 posted on 01/13/2014 1:45:54 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

My thoughts, exactly. She has her nose so far up McShame and Linda’s backsides, it’s been difficult for her to find the light of day.


11 posted on 01/13/2014 1:49:09 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: GeronL
Paul Ryan had a very real reason to throw our military retirees and currently serving military men and women under the proverbial bus.

The advancement of his own political career.

Read this, if you have a strong stomach.

Paul Ryan Takes a Step Toward House Speakership

12 posted on 01/13/2014 1:50:54 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Jane Long; EQAndyBuzz
On this issue (defending our military, widows, disabled retirees, and military veterans) - she has been spot on. I give kudos where its due, and she is one of the few voices of courage and light on this issue.

Sen Ayotte stood her ground against an vile and angry Sen Barb Boxer last week. Boxer accused her (on the Senate floor) of trying to starve children because she wants to close the loophole where illegals can use imaginary children and children who reside in other nations to claim illegal tax credits, and use that loophole money to restore veterans pensions).

Ayotte was viscously and personally attacked by Boxer. Although shaken by this attack, she stood her ground.

Senate Democrats Block Amendment to Restore Military Pensions

"This is nothing about protecting children,” Ayotte responded. “Unless you’re trying to protect children that may not exist, or you’re trying to protect children who don’t live in the United States of America. This is about protecting abuse within the tax code, which again, I have a letter from a member of her caucus who recognized this problem as well based on a Treasury IG report done under this administration. This amendment is about protecting the American taxpayer. We need to be able to have votes on behalf of our states, on behalf of the American people, and if we disagree, let’s vote them down,” she added. “I don’t see what the issue is there, unless you’re worried that it’s going to pass because it just makes too much sense.”

13 posted on 01/13/2014 1:57:29 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“RINO saving face.”

Yeah, she’s a lib puke on other stuff. But she’s doing the right thing here. Credit where credit is due.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 2:02:41 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: SkyPilot

I have yet to hear this from those politicians promoting these cuts.

When your in the military your on call 24/7 365. You go where they send you very often leaving family behind for months at a time. Very often and partcularly if your job is in a line outfit there is no job equivlancy to civilian life. Plus your life is on line. The pension is about the only incentive worthy of consideration when one enlists and remains in service for 20 years.


15 posted on 01/13/2014 2:11:52 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: SkyPilot
Well, yeah.

But at least they didn't cut the many billions in welfare, tax, and medical benefits shoveled out to illegal aliens every year, so there is a silver lining to all this, right?

16 posted on 01/13/2014 2:24:27 PM PST by Gritty (Liberals think living your life free of welfare, EBT, and government nannies is "cheating"-J Hawkins)
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To: SkyPilot
I hear you.

It sickens me to no end that ANY member of our Congress, regardless of party, would choose to cut ANY benefit to a member of our brave military (or their families) - our military members and families that have sacrificed SO much. Especially while espousing giving HAND OUTS to those here ILLEGALLY - who've broken our laws to come here - and mooch off of the system.

I get so tired of the old politician-gimme-cover game that they ALL play. Ayott's been terrible on so many issues....not even taking calls, and having her staff members become confrontational on the few times you could get through...that I just don't trust her motives, anymore.

EVERY SINGLE Republican politician should be standing up for our military and their continued benefits...over benefits to illegals...24/7, front and center. Not just a handful.

17 posted on 01/13/2014 2:28:07 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: mosesdapoet
Exactly. Plus, no overtime. Ever. You give up an incredible amount of your basic freedoms and rights while in the military. The frequent moves are incredibly hard on your family, especially young children. Spouses careers suffer horribly, in that they are never in one place long enough to get established or even get a job (many employers discriminate against hiring veterans spouses because of the frequent moves).

If you can survive a 20 plus military career with your sanity, body, and marriage intact, you are one of the lucky ones. They find themselves in their 40s or 50s, and they are literally starting over. Many find that while people shake their hands and say "thank you for your service" - this seldom translates into getting a decent job. Some do very well, our military are highly skilled, possess incredible leadership and communications skills, and many are highly educated. But in the ObamaEconomy, they are struggling as much as or more than anyone else.

When their pensions were cut, it was an incredible betrayal. If we have a major war break out in the Pacific or Middle East this year or next, I fear for our nation. The morale of the military is almost completely broken.

18 posted on 01/13/2014 2:34:46 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

That makes sense in ‘how’ they occurred. Still though, it’s reprehensible and even more than that; it’s stupid. Thus proving once again that the GOPe truly deserve the title: The Stupid Party.


19 posted on 01/13/2014 2:38:34 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man
Still though, it’s reprehensible and even more than that; it’s stupid. Thus proving once again that the GOPe truly deserve the title: The Stupid Party.

I wondered where the GOP leadership was on this, and how they could have been so stupid.

Here is what I concluded:

- Mitch McConnell was not even consulted on the military pension cuts because Boehner wrote him off completely in November when McConnell said he didn't want any budget deal

- Boehner was too pickled to really care; he gave the keys to Paul Ryan and let him drive

- McCain was asked, but he didn't stick up for the military men and women, which is really incredible. McCain wanted some relief for the military from Sequestration cuts more than he cared about cutting military pensions (hey, I was for military Sequestration relief too....but not at that price)

- Cantor didn't care either way, he figured this was Paul Ryan's deal, and they are sort of rivals anyway

20 posted on 01/13/2014 3:00:03 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: EQAndyBuzz

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21 posted on 01/13/2014 3:18:52 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Gritty

Meanwhile, the King and Queen party on!


22 posted on 01/13/2014 3:19:32 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: SkyPilot

I despise paul ryan and I will say it to his face should I ever get the chance. He is a lowest form of politician... he is in the league with reid and pelosi.


23 posted on 01/13/2014 3:43:46 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

24 posted on 01/13/2014 3:53:21 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

The very first thing that needs to happen is a bill for mandatory attendance at all military funerals. It would run just like jury duty, but with no excused absences. 100 American citizens, with their families, would be required to attend every military funeral. The family of the deceased could decline this. Everyone of the 100 would be required to shake the hand of the spouse or mother. Any bad behavior would be cause for immediate arrest and forfeiture of any taxpayer-provided benefits and the right to vote.


25 posted on 01/13/2014 4:51:47 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Active Duty/Retiree ping.


26 posted on 01/13/2014 5:49:03 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Jet - the omnibus spending bill was just released. There are some news headlines about it. The bill will still contain the cuts to veterans pensions. The media is reporting that “disabled” retirees will be exempt but they do not define what disabled means (I.e. only medically retired or VA rated disabled?). There is a provision to exempt survivor widows and widowers. The bill has other abominations, such as over a Billion and quarter dollars to give away to Egypt with no strings attached. That one budget line would have paid for 2 years of pension cuts for all military retirees.


27 posted on 01/13/2014 6:58:41 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Thanks for the update.


28 posted on 01/13/2014 7:00:45 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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