Skip to comments.Time to ‘aggressively phase out’ old, unsafe tank cars carrying oil, says CN
Posted on 01/14/2014 11:07:32 AM PST by thackney
The railway industry wants to aggressively phase out older model tank cars that have been implicated in several recent accidents, the head of CN Rails safety division told an industry forum Monday.
But the consensus at the day-long workshop was that theres no quick fix for a decades-old problem that has almost 80,000 sub-standard DOT-111 tank cars carrying flammable liquids on North American tracks.
And whatever the solution, the cost eventually will be borne by consumers.
Sam Berrada, director general of safety and occupational health services for CN, told an overflow crowd of industry types, regulators, lobbyists and local first responders that railways will continue to push aggressively for safer, stronger tank cars.
A derailment and fire involving a CN train in northwestern New Brunswick last week has renewed calls for greater safety in the booming oil-by-rail trade, which became an international cause following last summers deadly derailment and fire in Lac-Megantic, Que.
Transport Minister Lisa Raitt responded on the weekend by promising the government will formalize the standard for new tank car construction adopted by the rail industry in October 2011.
Our governments new tougher standards to the DOT-111 tank cars are part of our commitment to making the rail sector safer, spokesman Remi Moreau said in an email Monday.
But the governments announced standards are not new and not tougher they simply match those already voluntarily adopted by industry more than two years ago.
The forum heard from CNs Berrada and others that even better cars than the post-2011 model might be in order, although Berrada did praise the performance of three post-2011 cars involved in the New Brunswick derailment.
Moves to date, however, dont even begin to address the vast majority of older rolling stock.
Governments in Canada and the United States have been reluctant to deal with the huge number of older DOT-111s, in part because of the cost and logistics of an overhaul.
Moreau said Raitt has asked an advisory council to report back to the minister on additional enhancements and recommendations with respect to the DOT-111.
Raitt will be working on the standards with her U.S. counterpart, Transportation Secretary Anthony Foxx, Moreau added.
An official with the Canadian Transportation Agency also told the forum the government is considering the idea of a rail industry disaster fund, similar to the fund financed by the shipping industry for environmental clean-ups at sea.
Mondays forum heard that out of 335,000 tank cars of all types in use in North America, 228,000 are the model known as DOT-111. About 92,000 DOT-111s are used to carry flammable liquids, and only 14,000 of those are the new, stronger cars built after October 2011.
That means 78,000 older DOT-111s remain the workhorse of the oil-by-rail boom.
You cant just snap your fingers and change the fleet overnight, Bob Ballantyne, a career railway man who now works for the Freight Management Association of Canada, said in an interview.
Ballantyne told the forum that railway companies collectively own fewer than 700 tank cars (CN Rail owns just 20), while eight leasing companies own more than 243,000 tankers and shippers own another 79,000.
Retrofitting older cars can cost more than $70,000 each, while new tank cars cost well over $100,000.
It is, I think, inevitable that safety will be enhanced and there will be increased costs for consignors, consignees, carriers, governments and the general public, said Ballantyne. How these increased costs will be allocated across the supply chain remains to be seen.
Malcolm Cairns, the past president of the Canadian Transportation Research Forum, predicts government intervention will ultimately be necessary to get everyone onboard the pricey make-over of the North American fleet.
Marc Garneau, the Liberal international trade critic, wonders what the government is waiting for.
Theres no question the responsible thing to do for the government of Canada is to make sure, if these DOT-111 tankers are going to continue, that they have to be upgraded, Garneau said in an interview.
Something has to be done because of what weve seen in the past six months and what can potentially occur as the amount of oil (being shipped) continues to increase. Its just too dangerous.
NDP Transport critic Olivia Chow issued a press release blasting the Conservatives, claiming the government is recklessly backtracking on emergency rules imposed last summer after the Lac-Megantic crash, while failing to move on the tank car safety issue.
Keeping citizens safe is a core responsibility of any government, Chow said in the release.
Use more buffer cars.
Hmm. A bone thrown to Carl Icahn? (He owns ACF.)
Time to build a pipeline
Or, we could construct a safer alternative than rail transport - perhaps, oh, I don’t know, a pipeline?
A transporter is their dream.
That will not make Warren Buffett very happy.
I’ll wager that by the end of 2014, more people will be dead as a result of ObamaCare than have died from train crashes during the entire existence of the DOT 111 cars.
$2 billion a year for 4 years. Ought to do it.
Then another $2 billion a year for 4 more years to replace the defective tanks we bought from China during the first 4 years, because we are too stupid to buy American.
No pipeline is going to be built while Buffett is still alive and owning BNSF.
You think its an accident that Keystone wasn’t built?
What’s the cost of this vs. a pipeline?
I have a 65 year old hammer that still works.
Tank cars, in North America, are privately owned; so when the railroad industry combines to prematurely retire the existing tank car fleet, they don't bear the direct cost. (Indirectly, they bear the cost of any inefficiency which might transfer a competitive advantage to a competing mode, but the railroad industry never really has come to grips with the fact that transportation is competitive).
Five major derailments in Canada involving tank cars during the past 12 months. Build the pipeline.
Obviously a pipeline is needed. Obvious to all except greenie imbeciles
It ain't phasing out anywhere.
The rail cars are getting around the pipeline ban so the rail cars have to be banned also.
Their dream is to further hamper the transportation of oil to the refiners.
Very Happy. He bought a company that builds rail tank cars.
Warren Buffett Cashes In on Railroad Tank Cars
November 14, 2013
Wholly coincidental, I’m sure.
“Time to build a pipeline”
Amen and dittoes. Pipelines can run 24/7 at steady speed, the product being moved can be changed with minimum disruption of operations, once in place it operates for years with regular maintenance and upkeep, probably at far less cost than what would be required for a roadbed and the individual cars, let alone the daily diligence that must be maintained in scheduling and tracking assembled trains and their switching off at given points.
Use of tank cars and moving by rail is SO 1930’s level of technology. The Second World War led to the establishment of the “Big Inch” and “Little Big Inch” pipelines, which greatly expedited the movement of petroleum product from the oilfields to the refineries and on to the port of embarkation, where these products were sent out all over the world to supply our war machine and those of the allies. These pioneer pipelines have long been abandoned, but the lessons and technology survived, and have been key in establishing the safety and reliability of using this means of transport of a messy and sometimes unpredictable class of product.
These pioneer pipelines have long been abandoned
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Texas Eastern formed in 1947 with the purchase of two wartime-built pipelines, the Big Inch and the Little Big Inch, from the U.S. government. With numerous improvements and modifications over time, the pipelines are still in use and are a vital part of Spectra Energy. Today, the Texas Eastern Transmission system ranks fourth among the nations gas pipelines in system capacity.
I had not realized the Big Inch and Little Big Inch were still in use. This would even further buttresses my contention that the transport by tank cars should be phased out, as the lifetime of a pipeline involved is far greater than that of a common carrier of only limited size, moving at the whim of the train as a whole.
Efficiency wins over egregious clinging to old technology every time it is tried.
Texas Eastern Transmission
Seems like a good industry to invest in as the rails are hot today. Tanker Car manafactures like ACF or Trinity TRN should see the value of their stock grow as any of the companies who supply the oil boom areas. Can you name other companies who would be a good place to invest. Time for everybody to make some money on the Shale oil boom.