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Revolutionary Scuba Mask Creates Breathable Oxygen Underwater On Its Own
The Mind Unleashed ^ | January 14, 2014

Posted on 01/15/2014 12:48:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: DainBramage

And I bet it just stops, too, in contrast to tanks where you get some indication by sucking harder and harder.


61 posted on 01/15/2014 3:17:14 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Probably supply enough oxygen for micro people.


62 posted on 01/15/2014 3:22:17 PM PST by ully2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Tom Swift Jr. invented this in 1962. Tom Swift and the Electronic Hydrolung
63 posted on 01/15/2014 3:39:49 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace, peace," but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I expect any day you will be able to order from Amazon an implant just under the skin of your palm that will be a complete cell phone with high speed internet access plus it can monitor all your body functions including heart, respiration and temperature, sort of a built in Onstar.

Think of Total Rekall, the new one, the players had these in the palms of their hands.

And i bet Obama wants to give these out by the millions....and guess what that will mean....


64 posted on 01/15/2014 3:50:01 PM PST by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors. Asymmetrical Warfare.)
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To: Spartan302

I hope they don’t accidently take pictures and send selfies while they are in the restroom with it implanted in their hand.

Although how they plan to play Angry Birds in their palms, I don’t know.


65 posted on 01/15/2014 3:54:34 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Think I'll stick to the old Dacor rig for now. My instructor was a crusty old UDT guy who made us learn how to breath off the tank directly if we had to. I see no room for failure with this thing unless you bring a bail out bottle.
66 posted on 01/15/2014 3:55:46 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: GeronL

Only in SF FRiend, only in SF will they allow hand to hand communication.


67 posted on 01/15/2014 3:58:13 PM PST by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors. Asymmetrical Warfare.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The only problem I see from the description is that humans breathe air (21% oxygen)....not oxygen. Scuba tanks contain compressed air...not oxygen.
Unless there is something that does the mixing between the oxygen storage and the mouthpiece.
. . . or unless there is more nitrogen than oxygen dissolved in the water, and extracted with the oxygen . . .

68 posted on 01/15/2014 4:07:23 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Spartan302

“Give me a hand” would have a whole new meaning


69 posted on 01/15/2014 4:14:44 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

What if there was a way to oxygenate the blood directly?
I suppose you would still have problems with the lungs
and pressure, might fill with water etc.
be hard to transition between states too.


70 posted on 01/15/2014 4:21:50 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
. . . and you must still exhale the CO2 . . .
71 posted on 01/15/2014 4:30:25 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

is there a depth limit to it, where maybe the pressure affects the oxygen generating capability?


72 posted on 01/15/2014 5:33:11 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

All I know is what’s in the article.


73 posted on 01/15/2014 5:33:47 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

yeah i thought they added in another gas for deeper dives.


74 posted on 01/15/2014 5:34:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Nervous Tick

i suppose t could be made with a backup battery as well.


75 posted on 01/15/2014 5:34:45 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: driftdiver
I am not a diver so don't know much about air mixture stuff. Engineering stuff I do have any number of factoids that rattle around the noggin.

I am focused on the separation of the O2 from the water. This separation of a gas from liquid has been around commercially for about 3 decades. Think Goretex although this actually works backwards from Goretex but don't get hung up on that.

The battery is going to need to power 2 things. First, I am pretty sure that there is going to be some water pumping to keep O2 rich water in contact with the membrane - This will be low pressure, high volume pumping. Second, on the gas side of the membrane there needs to be a negative pressure. The gas pump would have its suction on the membrane side and the diver on the discharge side. What may be really cutting edge innovative on this device is more the battery for powering things than the gas permeable membrane separation.

76 posted on 01/15/2014 6:30:27 PM PST by Hootowl99
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To: driftdiver
Depends on the cave. I’m not a cave diver because I want to die in bed, but I do know several. I doubt any cave divers would trust this thing. heck they take 3 of everything.

My bother's an experienced cave diver. After a bad experience a few years back he came to the same conclusion you came to... decided he's rather die in bed.

77 posted on 01/15/2014 6:39:40 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
or unless there is more nitrogen than oxygen dissolved in the water, and extracted with the oxygen . . .

That leaves a lot to chance. Sounds riskier than the batteries.

78 posted on 01/15/2014 7:53:02 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: SgtHooper

It looks like this is just some stupid design CONCEPT. The whole site appears to be full of things like this.


79 posted on 01/15/2014 11:35:26 PM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: babygene

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a205331.pdf

A diver requires 1-2 liters of oxygen per minute, not air.

The article specifically says it’s removing oxygen from seawater, which contains 7ppm oxygen. It would still require 51 gallons of seawater to be processed per minute to provide oxygen at a rate a diver would require.

There are technologies being developed that can strip oxygen atoms from H20 and provide more oxygen more quickly that way, but the device as described by this article will never work.

It is possible the article misrepresented how the device is coming by enough oxygen to keep a human diver conscious, but a gill working on the principle described would be the size of an automobile.

The only reason gills work for fish is that they are exothermic and require a lot less oxygen to sustain metabolism. It’s also the reason no warm blooded sea creatures have gills.


80 posted on 01/16/2014 11:22:53 AM PST by Heavyrunner (Socialize this.)
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