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To: All; RoosterRedux; Alamo-Girl


Perhaps, this is WHY?:

Bad news for us aging folks. *Your hospital Medicare admittance has
just changed under ObamasCare*. You must be admitted by your primary
Physician in order for Medicare to pay for it! If you are admitted by
an emergency room doctor it is treated as outpatient care where
hospital costs are not covered. This is only the tip of the iceberg
for Obama Care. Just wait to see what happen in this year and 2014!

*YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS... At age 76 when you most need it
most, you are not eligible for cancer treatment * see page 272. What
Nancy Pelosi didn’t want us to know until after the healthcare bill
was passed. Remember she said, “We have *to pass the Bill so that we
can see what’s in it.”

Well, here it is. ObamaCare Highlighted by Page Number THE CARE BILL
OF THE CARE BILL. Judge Kithil of Marble Falls , TX - highlighted the
most egregious pages of HB3200. Please read this....... especially the
reference to pages 58 & 59.


** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all
non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an
individual’s bank account and will have the authority to make
electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the
government) for all union members, union retirees and for community
organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for
Reform Now - ACORN).

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be
treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of
specialty, and the government will set all doctors’ fees. This is what
they do in Sweden too. I know because Alf’s daughter Ann is an OBGYN,
and her husband, Thorsten, is a surgeon.........

** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according
to the patient’s age.

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on
hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning
consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an
“end-of-life planning” seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can
write an end-of-life order.

HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify: “Finally, it is
specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of
Congress. No wonder they did not see the need to read it....doesn’t
I don’t know if we can do anything but but awareness helps.

Winds Of Change!

50 posted on 01/23/2014 9:36:40 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965
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Jeepers. Thanks for the ping!

52 posted on 01/24/2014 5:34:53 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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There is a lot of "stuff" there to make a lot of people unhappy, but the sad truth is that much of it will be unhappily accepted, or at least not fought vigorously. Even where it is, this thing is crafted so that the number of people who do benefit, or think they benefit, as with the subsidies, offsets the opponents who are actually willing to raise hell. Except... and you point it out:

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual’s bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

That little item is what could PO most everybody, especially when, not if, the hackers make their move(s). That in turn is why I think the website is such a crucial part of the coming stink. The website is essential to implementation of ObamaCare; not so much for signing people up, it is the working (/sarc) hub of the whole thing. Think of it as the weapon in the hand, er, hands... ...and it will be used on you.

54 posted on 01/24/2014 12:03:09 PM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: Marcella

Have you seen post 50 on this thread? Does this match with what you know about the OSHIT bill?

61 posted on 01/24/2014 11:35:58 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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We are being corralled like sheep ready for the slaughter and 2/3s of American citizens are too busy to know that we are now but slaves of the monster Obamanation of America's desolation and it will get worse worldwide as the people will have less and less of necessary goods, a plan of the one world order hellions and devils.
63 posted on 01/25/2014 6:56:16 AM PST by kindred (Conservative third party or America is dead, the golden goose has been stabbed to many times)
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To: greeneyes; Kartographer; All

I wouldn’t believe post 50 at this point - I would have to read it for myself because people are not careful to read each word in a law and they will make conclusions that aren’t right. Don’t care if its a judge or someone else making those conclusions. I have taught people, including lawyers, how to read laws so they don’t misinterpret.

I do know for sure that the hospital now has two ways to admit you. They check either “Inpatient” or “Under Observation”. Make sure they check “Inpatient” because Medicare will not pay for “Under Observation”. I saw an actual case of this on Fox, I think it was, where a woman broke her leg and was in the hospital and then she also had rehab while still in the hospital. The hospital had put down “Under Observation” for her case and Medicare wouldn’t pay and she owes over $25,000. They left their house to live with family so they could save money for her to have more rehab.

I also know doctors are to offer end of life counseling. The person who wrote this article says a patient will be “required” to attend. I don’t believe that. I’m sure the “Living Will” will be explained to patients. A “Living Will” is a death will, telling the hospital not to give them life saving procedures - just let them die. I ran into that with my husband. I had a “Medical Power of Attorney” which meant I was the only one besides my husband who could make a medical decision for him. I had him in five different hospitals and each one asked me if he had a “Living Will” and I told them that is a death will and here is my medical power of attorney - I had a number of copies made of that power of attorney and passed them out like candy to shut down their power to kill my husband. That piece of paper stopped them right in their tracks - they couldn’t do jack unless I approved it.

If you have a medical power of attorney and go to one of these end of life meetings the doctor has, just hand him/her a copy of the medical power of attorney, and they are stopped right there and you can walk out.

I was amused every time when I handed a hospital person that paper because the reaction from them was like the paper was a religious cross and they reacted like the devil would when faced by a cross. Keep the power so if you are too sick to make medical decisions for yourself, your spouse has that power and the hospital doesn’t.

You can find a medical power of attorney form on the net, print it, fill it out, both you and spouse sign it in the presence of a Notary Public and it’s done. That is what I did for both of us.

Please don’t make the joke that you don’t trust your spouse to make those decisions. You shouldn’t be married to that person if that statement is true. This is a serious business and jokes don’t apply.

Spouses should have a Medical Power of Attorney for both spouses so you are in control of what hospitals can do.

65 posted on 01/25/2014 7:40:01 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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THIS is what Nancy didn’t want us to read...

66 posted on 01/25/2014 9:40:49 AM PST by Volunteer (Though I know that the hypnotized never lie, do ya? - The Who)
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To: musicman


71 posted on 01/28/2014 12:30:39 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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