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Newspaper chain plans 'state-by-state' concealed weapon databases
foxnews ^ | 01/24/14 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 01/24/2014 10:08:28 AM PST by Doogle

A national newspaper chain with nearly 100 publications and 1.6 million readers is considering building “state-by-state databases” on concealed weapons permit holders, according to an internal e-mail.

The plan, laid out in an email from a top editor at North Carolina-based Civitas Media, could be similar to a controversial project a New York state newspaper carried out in 2012 which included an online map that identified gun owners in two counties by name and address. Civitas' database project was detailed the plan in a Jan. 19 e-mail to newsrooms in 11 states, including Ohio, Illinois and Pennsylvania.

The newest project "examines the explosion of ‘conceal and carry’ gun permits across the U.S.,” wrote Jim Lawitz, Civitas’ director of content, in an e-mail first obtained by the Buckeye Firearms Association. “Through public records act requests, we will attempt to build state-by-state databases that list those who have the right to carry a concealed weapon.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: again; banglist; ccwdatabase; ccwpermits; civitasmedia; concealed; concealedweapons; privacy
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Here we go again....
1 posted on 01/24/2014 10:08:28 AM PST by Doogle
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To: Chode

ping


2 posted on 01/24/2014 10:08:48 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

Presstitutes in lock step goosestepping to the Fuhrer’s commands.


3 posted on 01/24/2014 10:10:10 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Doogle

Sounds like a basis for class action suit. Who said collectivists are smart?


4 posted on 01/24/2014 10:12:15 AM PST by lurk
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To: Doogle
Ultimately, they will cause bloodshed as ex-wives/husbands who moved away from deranged spouses are exposed in databases and as thieves try to steal firearms from those who are published.

Even aside from the fundamental privacy issues, this is a bad idea.

What to do? Publish the names, addresses, phone numbers and emails of those who advocate or try to employ these tactics and give them a taste of what they want to deliver to those on their lists?

Sure is a tempting thought.

5 posted on 01/24/2014 10:12:54 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Solution, get addresses and personal data of the chains management, and publish on Web. Create dirt.


6 posted on 01/24/2014 10:15:21 AM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: Doogle

I think a public online database of divorce and criminal records for Civitas Media reporters is in order.


7 posted on 01/24/2014 10:16:07 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Doogle

Somebody needs to start a data base with the names and addresses of every employee of this news rag an publish that at the same time in case anybody wants to know where they might live...seems only fair
Freegards
LEX


8 posted on 01/24/2014 10:16:18 AM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Doogle

They say the pen is mightier than the sword. I believe it is imperitive, for our safety, to have a database with the name and home address of every employee and officer of the newspaper chain. Becuase of the potential for damage I say we need to know the possible whereabouts of these people at all times, including where they drop their kids off to school and shop for groceries. Of course I don’t advocate doing anything with this information but it is important to have it compiled just in case.


9 posted on 01/24/2014 10:16:37 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Doogle

They are mad that the fascists were not able to confiscate all legal guns after the Newtown CT. murders.

They obviously don’t want to take guns from violent criminals. They do want to take them from non-violent, honest, law-abiding citizens.


10 posted on 01/24/2014 10:18:45 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Doogle

In KY the law states that information can’t be released.....legally. However we do have a Rat governor that likes to issue illegal EOs. So far he’s been getting away with it.

But I was told by the CC instructor that the Obozo feds were pressuring KY to give them the list.

I personally don’t believe Americans in general will ever reach a tipping point - far too many sheep. It’s not in most of them. But.....if they were to do so, hell would break loose.


11 posted on 01/24/2014 10:21:19 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Doogle

I’m going to need the home address, social security numbers, and date of birth of all these guys. It’s only fair.


12 posted on 01/24/2014 10:22:05 AM PST by thorvaldr
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To: Doogle; Chode

http://civitasmedia.com/section/about-us

This is my state, and I have never heard of these people...in the background people; probably from somewhere else as most of the people here now.


13 posted on 01/24/2014 10:23:14 AM PST by Kackikat
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To: Nachum; OneWingedShark

Ping.


14 posted on 01/24/2014 10:23:30 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: I want the USA back; Doogle

They obviously don’t want to take guns from violent criminals. They do want to take them from non-violent, honest, law-abiding citizens.

15 posted on 01/24/2014 10:24:05 AM PST by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Doogle

Now here’s an idea: why not post online the names, addresses and SS# numbers of everybody who works at that “national news chain”? Violate their right to privacy the same way they’re trying to violate ours.


16 posted on 01/24/2014 10:24:53 AM PST by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Doogle

We can start our own web site of Communist Journalists.


17 posted on 01/24/2014 10:27:42 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

Add to that their children`s info, especially which schools and grades they attend and I`m with you. Do you think we could get pictures of the entire families? Also their social media info.


18 posted on 01/24/2014 10:28:16 AM PST by nomad
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To: Buckeye McFrog

The Jack Ryan(R-IL) treatment.


19 posted on 01/24/2014 10:30:52 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Doogle; NFHale; Liz; Impy; Tennessee Nana
RE :”A national newspaper chain with nearly 100 publications and 1.6 million readers is considering building “state-by-state databases” on concealed weapons permit holders, according to an internal e-mail. “

Great that lib states just hand that personal info out,
How about handing out a list of illegals (and their addresses ) who sign up and get those special drivers licenses for illegal aliens, that are different that the licences the rest of us get?

20 posted on 01/24/2014 10:30:55 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Doogle

That’s going to be a big database. Including some big names, with plenty of juice behind them. They have no idea. Go ahead, boys. Stir that hornets nest. See where it gets you.


21 posted on 01/24/2014 10:31:20 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Doogle; Lazamataz
“Through public records act requests, we will attempt to build state-by-state databases that list those who have the right to carry a concealed weapon.”

Since the liberal left wants to put a target on gun owners who legally exercise their 2nd Amendment Constitutional Rights, I say this:

Let's start a database using public records act requests and FOIA requests to build a state by state database of those who do NOT have a conceal/carry permit or FOID card.

Let's put the target right back where it belongs: on the anti-gun weenies who eschew guns and the protection they afford. Let's see how they respond to being murdered, raped, pillaged, and plundered along with their families.

Who's with me? I have database skills, a website, and I know someone who's a very good Web Site designer. We can put this thing together in a matter of days and the first members of the Database will be the assholes who own these newspapers!

22 posted on 01/24/2014 10:35:42 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Doogle

Other than the obvious invasion of privacy, how is this a bad thing? I realize they think they are embarrassing us or that people will be angry at us, but won’t this tell criminals to stay the hell away from us? I’m not a criminal but if this list was posted openly, I would definitely check it out to see who I WANTED to rob vs who I did not want to approach.


23 posted on 01/24/2014 10:38:11 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

...it also tells them where they might be able to get a firearm when the folks are not home....


24 posted on 01/24/2014 10:39:46 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: usconservative; Lazamataz; All
A quick Linked-In Search turned up 1,702 people who worked/work for Civitas Media.

They along with their home addresses, email addresses, phone numbers and family members that I can find will be the first members of our new Database that identifies those who hate guns and want to take ours away.

Let's see how they like the target on THEIR backs for a change.

25 posted on 01/24/2014 10:41:04 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Doogle

GOP needs to propose a big eco-tax on print media


26 posted on 01/24/2014 10:41:44 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Doogle
Ok I see that could happen, but again, we would be more likely to kill them if they tried since they don't know positively if anyone is at home.

I want a campaign started urging the gun haters to prove their loyalty to their cause by posting signs in their yards and on their cars stating they don't believe in owning guns! Think any of them are stupid enough to advertise to the world that they are sitting ducks?

27 posted on 01/24/2014 10:42:13 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Doogle; sickoflibs

And we’ll dig and find the names and addresses of the cretins doing this, and we’ll publish their information as well, along with the fact that they’re unarmed.


28 posted on 01/24/2014 10:42:50 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Joe Brower

FYI


29 posted on 01/24/2014 10:43:29 AM PST by SLB (23rd Artillery Group, Republic of South Vietnam, Aug 1970 - Aug 1971.)
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To: NFHale

Now that would be justice!

Wasn’t that done and shown here for that NYS town?


30 posted on 01/24/2014 10:45:18 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: usconservative; Lazamataz; All
Ladies and Gentlemen, I bring you the Executive Management of Civitas Media.

CIVITAS MEDIA
130 Harbour Place Drive Suite 300
Davidson, NC 28036
Phone: (704) 897-6020

PRESIDENT & CEO: Michael Bush
Email: MBush@civitasmedia.com

COO: Scott Champion
Email: SChampion@civitasmedia.com

CFO: Jeff Sherman
Email: JSherman@civitasmedia.com

CRO: Joseph Craig
Email: JCraig@civitasmedia.com

CTO: Matt Swanson
Email: MSwanson@civitasmedia.com

Now gathering their home addresses, family members and phone#'s from Public Records. Let's see how they like it.

31 posted on 01/24/2014 10:46:14 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Doogle

“....the RIGHT of the people to keep AND BEAR arms shall NOT be infringed...”


32 posted on 01/24/2014 10:48:41 AM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

33 posted on 01/24/2014 10:48:58 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

The press flips out over sex offender DBs but they put this together.


34 posted on 01/24/2014 10:49:52 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Doogle

Yeah, that sign! love it


35 posted on 01/24/2014 10:50:27 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: usconservative
Oh lookiee here who else we found on Linked-In:

M Joseph Craig
Chief Revenue Officer at Civitas Media, LLC

Matt Swanson
CTO - Chief Technology Officer at Civitas Media

Sandra Hurley
Regional Sales Director, General Manager at Civitas Media

Nicholas DeLorenzo
Director of New Media Development at Civitas Media

These are the folks who need to hear from us also ... Let's get busy and find 'em!

36 posted on 01/24/2014 10:50:38 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: CodeToad
We can start our own web site of Communist Journalists.

That is going to require some memory. That is a big file.

37 posted on 01/24/2014 10:51:10 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: LibLieSlayer; WKB

Didn’t our legislature pass something making this sort of thing illegal in our state?


38 posted on 01/24/2014 10:52:11 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Doogle

OK, how about a data base of all those who do not have weapons, who work for the newspaper chain? My guess is they would not like that very much.


39 posted on 01/24/2014 10:53:48 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Doogle
...it also tells them where they might be able to get a firearm when the folks are not home....

That one might backfire. "Go ahead punk, Make my Day."

40 posted on 01/24/2014 10:54:02 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Doogle

National newspaper chain? Hardly. National liberal propaganda and activism chain would be more accurate.


41 posted on 01/24/2014 10:56:39 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Doogle
“Through public records act requests, we will attempt to build state-by-state databases that list those who have the right to carry a concealed weapon.”

Each of the states that issue CCW permits has the very database he's talking about. They already exist. Expending any further effort on this fool's errand is superfluous; the states already have these lists. They obviously don't need anybody like this jackwagon to "assemble" them.
42 posted on 01/24/2014 10:56:55 AM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Doogle

They count readers by how many copies they print.


43 posted on 01/24/2014 11:01:46 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Doogle

44 posted on 01/24/2014 11:03:36 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: usconservative

Well played.


45 posted on 01/24/2014 11:05:47 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Doogle
Thanks for posting....

If my house gets hit I will hold each and every one of these pukes personally responsible....

46 posted on 01/24/2014 11:07:16 AM PST by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: Doogle

“Through public records act requests, we will attempt to build state-by-state databases that list those who have the right to carry a concealed weapon.”

No big deal, that would include just about everyone legally in America who is 21, 18 in some states, who has not committed a felony or been found to be dangerous to themselves or others. We basically all have the right, many don’t choose to exercise it and others have forfeited it.


47 posted on 01/24/2014 11:10:05 AM PST by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: Black Agnes

Yes I believe they did and we will sue them into bankruptcy!


48 posted on 01/24/2014 11:12:43 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Doogle

—————Original Message—————

From: douglas (redacted FR post)
Date: Jan 24, 2014 11:11:19 AM
Subject: publishing data base of concealed gun permits
To: MBush@civitasmedia.com
Cc: JLawitz@cititasmedia.com

Mr. Bush:

If your group follows through with the idea of publishing information about those with concealed carry permits, will you allow me to run an ad in your newspapers that identifies the name and address of those among your 1400 employees that do not have such a permit? That would be a very lucrative ad for you.

...Doug


49 posted on 01/24/2014 11:13:23 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Black Agnes

I recall that several states made it illegal to publish such list.


50 posted on 01/24/2014 11:13:27 AM PST by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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