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States Consider Firing Squad as Alternative to Lethal Injection
Wall Street Journal ^ | Jan 28, 2014 | Jacob Gershman

Posted on 01/28/2014 12:56:48 PM PST by Second Amendment First

As death penalty states struggle to obtain drugs suitable for lethal injections, more old-fashioned methods of executing prisoners are getting another look.

Lawmakers in Missouri and Wyoming have introduced measures this month that would give their states an option to use firing squads — instead of lethal drugs — to carry out executions. Another bill proposed by a Virginia lawmaker would authorize death by electrocution if lethal injection isn’t possible.

The measures have surfaced as a number of pharmaceutical firms have barred corrections departments from buying drugs that could be used in executions, forcing states to scramble for other suppliers and to experiment with alternative drugs.

The botched, 26-minute execution of an Ohio inmate earlier this month — using a cocktail of chemicals never before used in a U.S. execution — underscored the problem.

“This isn’t an attempt to time-warp back into the 1850s or the wild, wild West or anything like that,” Missouri state Rep. Rick Brattin, who sponsored the fire squad legislation, told the Associated Press, which reported on the bills. “It’s just that I foresee a problem, and I’m trying to come up with a solution that will be the most humane yet most economical for our state.”

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Just replace the injected drugs with a hot shot of heroin. It's hard to call it cruel when so many kill themselves with it voluntarily.

Although I don't have a problem with hanging, electrocution or gassing.

1 posted on 01/28/2014 12:56:48 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

The guillotine never failed, to my knowledge.


2 posted on 01/28/2014 12:59:02 PM PST by Argus
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To: Second Amendment First

That’s how they took out Joe Hill! Another rat fink presented as a nice, soothing, little songwriter. (Well, unlike Joe, at least Seegar had talent.)


3 posted on 01/28/2014 12:59:05 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Second Amendment First

They could easily use laughing gas that dentists use now.

Just keep increasing the mixture until it is 100%.

They would just go to sleep.


4 posted on 01/28/2014 12:59:32 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Argus

What’s that old phrase, The more things change, the more they remain the same’.


5 posted on 01/28/2014 1:00:16 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Second Amendment First

Great idea. Go one further and offer the surviving family members the option of pulling the trigger(s).


6 posted on 01/28/2014 1:00:31 PM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: Second Amendment First

Maybe use a bank of rifles connected to an XBox, then let Kinect figure out what to do.


7 posted on 01/28/2014 1:00:39 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Second Amendment First
This is what liberalism has gotten us.

Wiping the condemned man's arm with alcohol before inserting the needle,
and making sure that when he is put to death that it doesn't *hurt*.

You can re-use a rope and it's cheaper.

8 posted on 01/28/2014 1:03:08 PM PST by red-dawg (My book Parallel Connection is free to download on Amazon Kindle 1/27 & 1/28.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Okay.


9 posted on 01/28/2014 1:04:03 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Second Amendment First

10 posted on 01/28/2014 1:04:05 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Second Amendment First

Nitrogen asphyxiation.


11 posted on 01/28/2014 1:04:25 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Second Amendment First
Electrocution is very green. They could use wind power and solar. Win, win.Or bring back the elephant.
12 posted on 01/28/2014 1:04:29 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: miss marmelstein

You mentioned Joe Hill. Joan Baez sang a beautiful old gospel like song (acapella) years ago. Too mad it may have been inspired by some communist.


13 posted on 01/28/2014 1:04:47 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Second Amendment First

Hanging is cheaper.


14 posted on 01/28/2014 1:06:13 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Second Amendment First

Finally, some sense.


15 posted on 01/28/2014 1:06:15 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Second Amendment First

And charge the perp’s family for the bullets.


16 posted on 01/28/2014 1:07:20 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Second Amendment First
The death penalty is another attempt, like Obamacare but for different reasons, to do the wrong thing the right way. The reason they can't find the right way to execute prisoners is there really is no right way to do the wrong thing.
17 posted on 01/28/2014 1:09:28 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Second Amendment First

Get a rope.... It’s worked for centuries. In fact, bring back the guillotine and give the evil bastards their choice.

The death penalty is only used for the very worst of our murderers, most just do time and aren’t given capitol punishment but the ones who are absolutely deserve it.

They chose to kill so give them that one last choice... Rope or blade.

Also, have a law that one appeal is all they get and a 5 year maximum waiting period that no judge can over ride for ANY reason.

The murder rate would plummet.


18 posted on 01/28/2014 1:11:04 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Second Amendment First

Hemp, it’s a renewable resource.


19 posted on 01/28/2014 1:12:19 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Bullish

Death Row should be 5 cells, and when one moves in, one moves out.


20 posted on 01/28/2014 1:12:22 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Second Amendment First

Good enough for Sadam, good enough for anyone else.

21 posted on 01/28/2014 1:13:02 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: red-dawg
Wiping the condemned man's arm with alcohol before inserting the needle,

If you didn't do that, he could get a nasty infection. Heck, he might even die!

22 posted on 01/28/2014 1:13:02 PM PST by xone
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To: Second Amendment First

Why not just use explosives?

A one hundred pound bomb in an enclosed concrete bunker would guarantee instantaneous and painless death.


23 posted on 01/28/2014 1:13:17 PM PST by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Or just go “North Korean” and fire mortars at ‘em.


24 posted on 01/28/2014 1:14:06 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: lee martell

That Joan Baez song made my skin crawl.... It was like a cat fight slowed town to 33rpm. Yuch!


25 posted on 01/28/2014 1:14:32 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: PapaNew

I’m sure that is the same moral dilemma that the condemned killers ponder as they rape, burn, slice, shoot, strangle, suffocate, starve, poison, run over, etc their victims.


26 posted on 01/28/2014 1:14:37 PM PST by pfflier
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To: PapaNew
there really is no right way to do the wrong thing.

No the reason is because of libs like you. If he dies, great. Nobody said it would be easy. Nothing wrong with Capital punishment.

27 posted on 01/28/2014 1:15:46 PM PST by xone
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To: dfwgator
And charge the perp’s family for the bullets..

Brazil
"That's your receipt for your husband. Thank you. And this is my receipt, for your receipt"

28 posted on 01/28/2014 1:16:20 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: red-dawg

IIRC, every hanging requires the use of a brand-new rope.

Then there was that Twilight Zone episode....


29 posted on 01/28/2014 1:16:35 PM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Second Amendment First

Will the libs count that as “gun violence”?


30 posted on 01/28/2014 1:16:58 PM PST by thorvaldr
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To: Dan(9698)

that would work


31 posted on 01/28/2014 1:17:19 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Bullish

One thing is, that if you throw in an exhaustive detailed forensic investigation to make sure that there is no innocent people facing death, that would actually be something that would save innocents from being executed.

One of the best arguments against the death penalty is that innocent people do get caught up and end up executed.


32 posted on 01/28/2014 1:17:24 PM PST by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: Abathar

The Saddam Hanging video was even funnier when they used the Benny Hill Theme as the background music.


33 posted on 01/28/2014 1:17:31 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Second Amendment First
Just replace the injected drugs with a hot shot of heroin.

There's some nasty stuff floating around Pittsburgh that has killed 24 since the start of the year.


34 posted on 01/28/2014 1:18:30 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Second Amendment First

Interesting that the article, at least the excerpt, doesn’t mention

WHY

the states are having problems getting the drugs for lethal injection.

The pharmies are being pressured by the left to not sell these particular drugs to the states where lethal injection is used for capital punishment.

As always, the left’s intent never takes into account human behavior or “the market”. They feel good about themselves for denying the states the means of lethal injection, and the states are considering FIRING SQUADS as an alternative.

But... the lefties feel good about themselves, and that’s all that matters.


35 posted on 01/28/2014 1:18:32 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: CorporateStepsister

And one of the best arguments for the death penalty is the 0% Recidivism Rate.


36 posted on 01/28/2014 1:18:54 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: red-dawg

A single bullit to the back of the head is cheaper.


37 posted on 01/28/2014 1:21:03 PM PST by gunner03
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To: Second Amendment First
How about execution by Knockout Game?

-PJ

38 posted on 01/28/2014 1:22:15 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: MrB

I believe what actually happened is that the two pharma companies that primarily made these drugs got bought by European companies. And the EU ordered the parent companies to stop selling these drugs for executions.

The practical effect is that the courts are now going to start finding all of these alternatives “cruel and unusual”, and the death penalty will come to a screeching halt. On the books, but unenforceable as a practical matter.


39 posted on 01/28/2014 1:22:46 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: CorporateStepsister

Everyone’s gonna’ die at some point. They had their ‘fair’ trial by jury and were found guilty and then were found deserving of the death penalty by another phase.

How many times out of a thousand do you think they get it wrong? In my opinion, not enough to shut down the entire system. Laws must have real teeth or you will just have more victims. Saving innocent victims from murderers is worth the very small percentage of mistakes made by courts and juries.


40 posted on 01/28/2014 1:22:52 PM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: gunner03

It reminds of the scene from Austin Powers, where Dr Evil is talking about how he’s going to kill Austin.

Dr. Evil: Scott, I want you to meet daddy’s nemesis, Austin Powers
Scott Evil: What? Are you feeding him? Why don’t you just kill him?
Dr. Evil: I have an even better idea. I’m going to place him in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death.
Scott: Why don’t you shoot him now? I mean, come on, I’ll go get a gun. We’ll shoot ‘im together. It’ll be fun. BANG! Dead. Done.
Dr. Evil: One more peep out of you and you are grounded, mister! And I am not joking!


41 posted on 01/28/2014 1:23:48 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Theoria
They could use wind power

Play "Fly Like an Eagle" by the Steve Miller Band while catapulting the condemned into a wind turbine.

42 posted on 01/28/2014 1:23:52 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: PapaNew
The death penalty is another attempt, like Obamacare but for different reasons, to do the wrong thing the right way. The reason they can't find the right way to execute prisoners is there really is no right way to do the wrong thing.

How utterly ridiculous.
It is not good to keep someone locked up forever because their debt to society can never be repaid; it is also unjust to make a man forever pay for his crime (like denying him all the rights, privileges, and responsibilities of a citizen) even after serving his sentence. The only right way to do it is to make the death one of relative speed and some dignity rather than caging them up like animals instead of men for large fractions of their normal span of life.

43 posted on 01/28/2014 1:24:32 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: red-dawg
You can re-use a rope and it's cheaper.

Actually, you can cut it into inch long segments, imbed them in lucite paperweights and sell them for a tidy profit. It would be worth doing just to make libtard heads explode.

44 posted on 01/28/2014 1:24:58 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: gunner03

Sorry, bullet.


45 posted on 01/28/2014 1:25:32 PM PST by gunner03
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To: Argus

guillotine....my thoughts exactly!


46 posted on 01/28/2014 1:25:57 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: Second Amendment First

String ‘em up.


47 posted on 01/28/2014 1:26:06 PM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: lee martell

The song is, I believe, I Saw Joe Hill Last Night. Haunting, if untrue. Seegar sang it also. Whoever wrote that was far more talented than Joe.


48 posted on 01/28/2014 1:26:33 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: MrB
From an earlier article:

The state had intended to use propofol, a drug that has never been used for capital punishment, for the Oct. 23 execution of Allen Nicklasson, who was convicted of killing a man who stopped to help him after his car broke down in 1994. But the plan risked triggering European Union curbs on the drug's export, raising alarm among doctors they could lose access to a medication used in 80% of procedures requiring anesthesia, according to the American Society of Anesthesiologists.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304500404579129782882624724

49 posted on 01/28/2014 1:27:30 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: Vigilanteman

Now THAT’S a good idea. It will help pay for the execution and you could give a few to the victim’s family.


50 posted on 01/28/2014 1:27:48 PM PST by red-dawg (My book Parallel Connection is free to download on Amazon Kindle 1/27 & 1/28.)
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