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Boy Scouts shrink 6 percent after 1 year of allowing gay members
Washington Times ^ | Feb 12. 2014 | Cheryl Wetzstein

Posted on 02/13/2014 9:54:28 AM PST by HokieMom

The Boy Scouts of America experienced a modest dip in membership in 2013, but not the mass exodus that some social conservatives predicted while it was considering changing its membership policy on gays.

Boy Scouts membership fell by 6 percent last year, leaving it with nearly 2.5 million youth members and 960,000 adult members.

Reasons for the attrition, which is slightly greater than the 4 percent losses in 2012 and similar-sized declines in several previous years, are not fully understood but are likely related to the divisive vote on admitting openly gay youths to Scouts as well as a 60 percent increase in annual membership dues.

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KEYWORDS: bsa; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 02/13/2014 9:54:28 AM PST by HokieMom
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To: HokieMom

American Heritage Girls growing as well.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/12/girl-scouts-competitor-offers-christ-centered-alternative-with-a-new-merit-badge-pro-lifers-will-love/


2 posted on 02/13/2014 9:57:30 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: HokieMom

And what month was it that they went gay?

I think 6 percent does not tell the whole tale. but 2014 and a full year will.


3 posted on 02/13/2014 9:58:07 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: HokieMom

I pulled my boys after never getting a response to my concern letter.


4 posted on 02/13/2014 9:58:35 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: HokieMom

In five years they will be admitting boy-loving adult leaders, then you’ll see an exodus.


5 posted on 02/13/2014 10:00:43 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: HokieMom

My son wouldn’t be in it. I wouldn’t give a nickel to the BS. Liberals have infected 3 major institutions that Americans love and respect, and all at the same time. Marriage, Military and the BS. All by design.


6 posted on 02/13/2014 10:02:14 AM PST by albie
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To: HokieMom
In general, people just aren't doing much with their kids anymore.

Organized youth sports are down considerably too.

7 posted on 02/13/2014 10:03:22 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: HokieMom

Time for a schism.


8 posted on 02/13/2014 10:06:13 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: HokieMom

The boys who are in the program will see it through but that six percent drop is likely composed primarily of a drop in new memberships. That’s because parents like me are not going to send their boys camping with homosexuals anymore than we’d send our daughters to go camping with boys and men.


9 posted on 02/13/2014 10:07:09 AM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: Jeff Chandler
In five years they will be admitting boy-loving adult leaders ...

They have already infiltrated and embedded themselves. How do you think the BSA came to conclusion to allow gay scouts?

10 posted on 02/13/2014 10:07:26 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: HokieMom

I never expected a mass exodus.

I did expect a moderate exodus but, more significantly, I believe there will be a continuing decline in new membership.


11 posted on 02/13/2014 10:07:56 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yep. Wait till we see stats for 2014. This policy didn’t take effect till January 1, 2014. I know two Scout leaders locally who resigned effective January 1. My youngest son had his Eagle Scout Board of Review in December and they asked him how he would be participating in the coming year. He told them in no uncertain terms that he would not longer be active in the Scouts effective January 1 and that this is the reason why.


12 posted on 02/13/2014 10:09:01 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Jeff Chandler

Ain’t gonna be five years. I predict it will be in 2014, maybe 2015. Some 18 year old Eagle Scout will start whining about how he’s oppressed because he broke his oath for years and now can’t be a leader. It’s easy to cave again after the first time.


13 posted on 02/13/2014 10:09:32 AM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Good on your son. Mine earned Eagle in December but wasn’t asked. One of the Council guys knew that our entire troop was departing in January for Trail Life and seems to be in favor of us doing so. I suspect he either clued the other guy in or guided the conversation.

I think he asked to be on the Board of Review for just that reason.


14 posted on 02/13/2014 10:12:57 AM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Isn’t it interesting how quickly they try to manipulate reality? I’d say a 6% loss before it was even policy does not bode well for the lavender mafia.

And lets not forget replacement scouts when the current ones age out. I doubt there will be parents flocking to sacrifice their kids.


15 posted on 02/13/2014 10:13:39 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: HokieMom

If people really love and care for their boys they would remove them. It should have been 100%. There is nothing so vile as normalizing irrational vile behaviors in little boys which “explaining” homosexuality to boys does in this setting.

It is pure warpage of how boys look at their bodies and others-—destroying the possibility of Christian Ethics which creates Rationality and Virtue.

They are forcing little boys to be irrational and throw out Truth and to be moral relativists (atheists/pagans/Satanists).


16 posted on 02/13/2014 10:14:46 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: HokieMom

1 adult for every 2.5 boys??


17 posted on 02/13/2014 10:20:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

There are a lot of registered volunteers who don’t do much of anything. Lot’s of merit badge counselors who must be registered.

Too many BSA troops are also leader heavy. It’s become a good ole boys club of who has the most volunteer patches on their uniforms.

BSA has an advanced leadership school called Wood Badge. I refused to participate because it’s become a secret handshake club and very cliquish.


18 posted on 02/13/2014 10:29:55 AM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: cyclotic
It’s easy to cave again after the first time.

'Tis true.
The whore has round heels.

19 posted on 02/13/2014 10:32:17 AM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: HokieMom

“The Boy Scouts of America experienced a modest dip in membership in 2013, but not the mass exodus that some social conservatives predicted while it was considering changing its membership policy on gays.

Boy Scouts membership fell by 6 percent last year, leaving it with nearly 2.5 million youth members and 960,000 adult members.”

While I’m sure that some families might have pulled their sons, it probably reflects a lack of new boys joining in sufficient number to replace those leaving. I would think any boys that have been in Boy Scouts form more than a year are probably committed to staying in. I would think that 6 percent is a healthy chunk of whatever percent leave Scouting in a typical year. Perhaps half?


20 posted on 02/13/2014 11:12:47 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: HokieMom

Cheryl Wetzstein certainly is GLAAD that there was only a 6 per cent decline.


21 posted on 02/13/2014 11:42:03 AM PST by Rockpile
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To: Tallguy

The three generations of our family had a very long serious discussion about this issue. Grandson is one year away from making Eagle. Then last week at their regular meeting their troop leader who has to have been a drill sarge in his former life talked to the entire group and parents who were waiting to pick up their sons about decisions that are made at the corporate level by people who are totally out of touch and make decisions about issues they should stay about. Told the boys that they must always remember to abide by their oath: God, family and country. Long, long speech. I could overhear only part of it while I was waiting for my grandson in a rather distant area.

When my grandson got in the car, the first thing he said after saying hello was “Who is Wendy Davis and you know we can’t buy any Girl Scout cookies any more but it would be helpful if I had your version of why”.

So, being in Texas and involved in politics, I did give him the lowdown on Wendy Davis and why we don’t buy Girl Scout cookies. I would suspect that he and his father, who is a “helper” will try to ride it out for one more year so he can get his Eagle Scout award. I never really expected him to stay with the group beyond that anyway because of his involvement in so many other activities.

But the boys all did get a speech that hopefully they will remember at least in part from their troop leader who is, by the way, the Sunday School teacher for many of them.


22 posted on 02/13/2014 12:34:25 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Thanks for sharing that story. It’s a tough decision being that close to a goal and having the organization’s entire charter change like that. A life’s lesson, that’s for sure.


23 posted on 02/13/2014 12:39:56 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: HokieMom

My grandfather and uncle were Scout leaders. I was a Cub Scout, Boy Scout, Den Chief, and Explorer many years ago. There is no way that I would ever encourage anyone to join the Scouts today.


24 posted on 02/13/2014 12:41:37 PM PST by Nemoque
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To: Norm Lenhart; HokieMom; edcoil; Phillyred
Want to know why this happened? It wasn't that parents or volunteer scouting leaders asked for a more open atmosphere of homosexuality in the scouts.

BSA 2013 National Membership Study - Executive Summary released 4/19/2013, key excerpts below ...

61% of scouters (volunteer leaders) favored traditional standard, 34% opposed it.

61% of Boy Scout parents supported the traditional standard

50% of Cub Scout parents supported traditional standard, 45% opposed it

51% of major donors supported the traditional standard, while 33% opposed it.

But a majority of Fortune 500 companies want to see the policy changed to support open homosexual identification in Scouting.

BSA has been losing membership since 1973. The new Membership Standard adopted on 5/23/2013 to allow openly homosexual youth, but no adults, will accelerate the membership decline, but not dramatically at first. It may take a year, i.e., early 2015, before BSA releases its annual membership statistics before we can judge how BSA membership has been affected.

I predict that guys who are just a couple years from Eagle Scout are not going to quit, because that means abandoning something they've been working toward for so long. But you're going to see fewer and fewer young kids coming in as the encroachment of "gay youth culture" becomes more obvious.

25 posted on 02/13/2014 12:51:39 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well if they are Eagles in spirit if not the currently accepted definition, they will stand like men on their core principles and tell the BSA to FOAD.

In the end it doesn’t matter who caved hardest. The BSA caved. And to associate with it post cave is support.


26 posted on 02/13/2014 1:01:49 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: HokieMom

I had no idea there was one adult for every 3 boy scouts in the organization.

No wonder the gays want in...ripe pickings.


27 posted on 02/13/2014 1:20:50 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
25 ... I predict that guys who are just a couple years from Eagle Scout are not going to quit, because that means abandoning something they've been working toward for so long. But you're going to see fewer and fewer young kids coming in as the encroachment of "gay youth culture" becomes more obvious.

As you indicated the BSA is in a long term decline, since 1973. This decline will continue, but at some point it will probably flatten out. Look at the statistics from the 2013 National Survey - 50% of Cub Scout parents supported open homosexuals in BSA. There is a HUGE generational change in attitudes/values out there. The parents in their 20s-30s for the most part have already accepted normalization of homoexuality in American culture.

28 posted on 02/13/2014 2:48:52 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton
I noticed that too. I do wonder whether they're thinking, now, that they don't want to see a great guy like Jack, their beloved gay nephew, excluded from the Scouts, but can't imagine how accepting a single "nice gay guy" differs from creating the conditions for a "gay subculture" which eventually either drives out or corrupts everybody else.

Thee are certain seminaries where it happened. Read "Goodbye, Good Men."

29 posted on 02/13/2014 2:59:24 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: HokieMom
The Boy Scouts of America experienced a modest dip in membership in 2013

Boy Scouts membership fell by 6 percent last year

I wonder what the response would be if I told my boss my 6 percent decline in sales was a "modest dip"

Their biggest problem will be in future years as fewer and fewer parents think putting their boys into scouting is a safe idea ?

30 posted on 02/13/2014 3:29:03 PM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: HokieMom

That’s disappointing - should have been 60%. I guess some folks just don’t mind their sons getting boinked up the butt on a camping trip.


31 posted on 02/13/2014 7:50:40 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

Most parents don’t see the danger until it’s too late. They are fooled by how the media portrays homosexuals.


32 posted on 02/13/2014 9:03:34 PM PST by USAF80
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To: cyclotic
Ain’t gonna be five years. I predict it will be in 2014, maybe 2015. Some 18 year old Eagle Scout will start whining about how he’s oppressed because he broke his oath for years and now can’t be a leader. It’s easy to cave again after the first time.

From the article:

"Recently, 17-year-old Pascal Tessier of Kensington, Md., became the first openly [homosexual] youth to become an Eagle Scout. Pascal said he was relieved and happy to achieve the honor but intends to apply to be a Boy Scout leader when he turns 18 'to push the issue.'"

33 posted on 03/30/2014 4:58:33 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: T Ruth

I just presented Trail Life USA to a group of about 50 people tonight.

I’m aware of that young man and the fact that he and his troop leaders broke their oath years ago.


34 posted on 03/30/2014 8:07:02 PM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: cyclotic
I just presented Trail Life USA to a group of about 50 people tonight.

Good for you. Excellent.

35 posted on 03/31/2014 5:29:27 AM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: T Ruth

Thanks.

I just found out a couple minutes ago that a troop that I led several years ago just became an official Trail Life Troop. Woohoo


36 posted on 03/31/2014 9:35:33 AM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: cyclotic

Correction, A troop I helped lead. Typed too quickly


37 posted on 03/31/2014 9:36:04 AM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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