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US army builds fake city to shoot at during training
Telegraph ^ | 13 Feb 2014 | Lucy Kinder

Posted on 02/15/2014 11:49:38 AM PST by shove_it

The US army has built a fake city designed to be used during combat training exercises. The 300 acre 'town' includes a five story embassy, a bank, a school, an underground subway and train station, a mosque, a football stadium, and a helicopter landing zone.

Located in Virginia, the realistic subway station comes complete with subway carriages and the train station has real train carriages. The subway carriages even carry the same logo as the carriages in Washington DC. There are also bridges and several other structures which can be transformed into different scenarios. The $96 million is designed to meticulously "replicate complex operational environments and develop solutions"...

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: asw; awg; fakecity; fortaphill; military; policestate; sonise; usarmy
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Photos and video at link. This complex is located on Fort A. P. Hill in Virginia. With my tinfoil headgear firmly in place, this smells like a site for training our military against domestic insurrection. Leave it to the Brit press to break another American story that our media ignores.
1 posted on 02/15/2014 11:49:38 AM PST by shove_it
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To: shove_it

It would have been cheaper to just use Detroit. :)


2 posted on 02/15/2014 11:51:30 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: shove_it
Includes a mosque, eh? How intolerant. /sarc

I hope they aren't planning to go into Iraq in force again.

3 posted on 02/15/2014 11:51:30 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Pope Calvin the 1st, defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades)
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To: shove_it

I never realized there were so many terrorists in the USA.


4 posted on 02/15/2014 11:51:55 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: shove_it

Why not use Detroit? Seems to me our troops got plenty of urban training when we were in Iraq. Maybe this is used to impart that training to newbies.


5 posted on 02/15/2014 11:52:18 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: shove_it

6 posted on 02/15/2014 11:54:00 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: shove_it

The 300 acre ‘town’ includes..... a mosque
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Yeah but the troops wont be allowed to shoot up even the fake one...


7 posted on 02/15/2014 11:56:04 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: shove_it
Asymmetric Warfare Center


8 posted on 02/15/2014 11:58:21 AM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
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To: shove_it

I’m counting the days until 0bummer leaks the photos of it to the world so we won’t have an advantage.


9 posted on 02/15/2014 11:59:22 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your lid on; don't let anyone dump garbage on you.)
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To: null and void

NJCT ping!


10 posted on 02/15/2014 12:01:27 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: shove_it

They keep mentioning that it has a mosque, with no mention of a church, but right there in the video, front and center, is a church, unless mosques are now sporting steeples.

In several reports now, not one has mentioned the church.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 12:01:42 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: shove_it

What an inactivation idea. You would have thought they would have thought of it a long time ago.


12 posted on 02/15/2014 12:07:41 PM PST by mountainlion
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
I never realized there were so many terrorists in the USA.

FedGov views anyone to the right of Mao Zedong as a potential terrorist. Seriously, conservatives, libertarians, Constitutionalists, evangelical Christians, anti-abortion activists, 2nd Amendment supporters, tax protestors have all been listed in official training documents as potential domestic terrorists. Basically anyone who doesn't want to live under an authoritarian Globalist government.

13 posted on 02/15/2014 12:09:00 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: shove_it

It’s nice that 0bummer makes sure the world knows all what we’re doing with our military.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 12:11:59 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your lid on; don't let anyone dump garbage on you.)
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To: shove_it
a mosque

Oh. Perfect!

15 posted on 02/15/2014 12:18:12 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: gundog
Why not use Detroit?

It isn't a real government project unless you spend a few million.
16 posted on 02/15/2014 12:28:33 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: shove_it

From “law and order” to “law and slaughter” in a generation. Wow.


17 posted on 02/15/2014 12:29:46 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Kartographer

I guess if the Commander in Chief cannot win an ongoing war the best you can do is Fight Your own self Stateside!
Hey Guys you have a whole Country you can conquer that has been sucking the life out of America! Hey Obama take the gloves off!


18 posted on 02/15/2014 12:32:46 PM PST by DocJhn
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To: shove_it

AWG...why am I not surprised? That retirement home for Rangers really needs to just go away.


19 posted on 02/15/2014 12:35:36 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Great idea! :-)


20 posted on 02/15/2014 12:35:56 PM PST by FBD
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To: shove_it

Film clip:

http://www.dvidshub.net/video/320460/awtc-opens-enhance-awgs-capabilities#.Uv_PXksUtmV


21 posted on 02/15/2014 12:36:23 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: shove_it
Commander's quote from the PR video (interspersed with b-roll of the obviously American city mockup, including english signage):

“So when you think about the transition that we're gonna go through here. Is to transition from an Army of execution; doing what we've got to do. To an Army of preparation. To be ready for what comes next. That's where the importance of this facility really comes in.”

Col John P. Petkosek
Asymmetric Warfare Group Commander
Ft. A.P. Hill VA

My, my, my...
22 posted on 02/15/2014 12:36:56 PM PST by rpierce (We have taglines now? :)
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To: shove_it

I assaulted a fake Vietnamese village at Fort Gordon in Augusta, Georgia in 1970.


23 posted on 02/15/2014 12:43:03 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: rpierce

ABOUT THE AWG:

http://www.awg.army.mil/awg/about-us.html


24 posted on 02/15/2014 12:55:30 PM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama’s America)
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To: shove_it

I was stationed at Ft. A.P. Hill Va. for the last three months of my tour of duty with the US Army. Sept. 1969 to Jan. 1970. At the time, it was approximately 15,000 acres of real estate located off Rt. 301 in Bolling Green, Va. It was used as a reserve training base. The military also maintained a beautiful hunting lodge that was used by the elites. (military and civilian) It doubled as a game preserve. Quail hunting was a popular sport. Deer hunting was also popular. The US Army had a taxidermist on staff at this place. I was in the Military Police at the time and was transferred there for the hunting season in the fall of 69. Prime Virginia property as I recall, and a good place to train troops. Many good times were had in Fredericksburg Va. As I recall, there were about 3000 girls at the Mary Washington College.(now University)It was a nice place to spend the last three months of a miserable three years.


25 posted on 02/15/2014 12:55:59 PM PST by MountainYankee
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Yep. The profile and architecture is domestic.


26 posted on 02/15/2014 12:56:06 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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27 posted on 02/15/2014 12:56:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Repeal The 17th

I trained for riot control at Fort Myer, VA in August 1963. Thankfully we didn’t have to use it.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 1:02:34 PM PST by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: Repeal The 17th

“I assaulted a fake Vietnamese village at Fort Gordon in Augusta, Georgia in 1970.”

Remember the Green Beret base in “The Green Berets”? I’m talking the one with the pagoda where John Wayne lead the relief party?

Well, I defended that hill complete with Pagoda in 1971. Little known fact, “The Green Berets” was filmed at Fort Benning. We defended the hill in “mech infantry platoon in the delaying operation” training.


29 posted on 02/15/2014 1:07:14 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: shove_it

I lived in proximity to A.P. Hill for many years. Helicopter assault night ops made the entire house shake as they thundered overhead shuttling between Quantico and Hill. They’ve been doing this for years, and I’ve always believed it to be for CONUS ops. Help or subdue us? Time will tell. Soon.


30 posted on 02/15/2014 1:11:16 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: shove_it

It’s been there for years. We trained there when I was a cadet at VMI.


31 posted on 02/15/2014 1:14:58 PM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: vmivol00

It’s an update to the old city that was there 20 years ago.


32 posted on 02/15/2014 1:16:41 PM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: MountainYankee

I spent a delightful couple weeks at A.P. Hill in the winter of 1962-63 maintaining my infantry readiness while serving with The Old Guard. There were no girls involved although I did pull debutant escort duty a few times. The most memorable one was a niece of LBJ’s who, thankfully I didn’t have to arm wrestle for the bar tab.


33 posted on 02/15/2014 1:17:11 PM PST by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: dfwgator

Chuckle.

That’s the set for “Blazing Saddles”. The landscape didn’t look like Ft. A.P. Hill.


34 posted on 02/15/2014 1:22:21 PM PST by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: shove_it

I was at Fort Riley in the late 60’s. Several riots had taken place across the U.S. They had an area of old WWII barracks that were abandoned. We practiced riot control in the streets around these buildings. There was another area out in the boonies that had a couple of buildings where we would practice. My last official duty in the service was as a rioter.


35 posted on 02/15/2014 1:27:06 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I assaulted real VN villages in 1965 to 1968, learning experience.


36 posted on 02/15/2014 1:27:21 PM PST by Little Bill
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“There are also bridges and several other structures which can be transformed into different scenarios.”

Especially warfare agains’t the real terrorists. The American public.


37 posted on 02/15/2014 1:27:28 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Help or subdue us? Time will tell. Soon.

Ditto that! My brief experience in the military is that soldiers follow orders, period.

38 posted on 02/15/2014 1:34:34 PM PST by shove_it (old Old Guardsman 1962-63)
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To: shove_it

This one may be the latest, and bigger that most, but this is not a new idea. The U. S. Army has been training it’s soldiers to fight for many years. They train to fight in the mountains, the desert, rolling plains, woodlands, in and around rivers, in extremes of cold and heat, and sometimes in urban areas. Most Army vets, especially infantry, who spent any real time in service have probably been through MOUT training, or the more descriptive “Combat in the City”.


39 posted on 02/15/2014 1:38:03 PM PST by jstaff
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To: shove_it

Well, unless you can guarantee our forces will never have to fight in an urban environment, they need something like this.


40 posted on 02/15/2014 1:46:00 PM PST by Hugin
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To: dfwgator

LOL, maybe we should suggest to name the fake town at A.P. Hill “Rockridge”.

CC


41 posted on 02/15/2014 2:01:19 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (tease not the dragon for thou art crunchy when roasted and taste good with ketchup)
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To: shove_it

They been doing this for years.

I helped build the town at FT Lewis.


42 posted on 02/15/2014 2:04:52 PM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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"The things that we do here at this facility will have a direct and lasting impact on our entire army."

Before that happens will the patriots in the military please(!) get off your asses.

You're already more that a year late.

The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012

Back in 1992 a Lt. Col. (USAF I think) wrote about the future that many back then envisioned.. political corruption, neglect of national issues and existential threats, neglect of military preparedness as the military was used to handle domestic chores neglected by the corrupt ruling class.. until a crisis forced sending a hollowed out military to the Middle East after years of neglect by successive corrupt U.S. administrations. Disaster resulted and the military finally! acted in 2012.

If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!

43 posted on 02/15/2014 2:08:17 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Well, I defended that hill complete with Pagoda in 1971. Little known fact, “The Green Berets” was filmed at Fort Benning. We defended the hill in “mech infantry platoon in the delaying operation” training.

Turrentine Hill. Made many a night combat equipment jump into that DZ. Still had strands of concertina wire from the movie set sticking out of the sand in spots. It looks like it's a Multi-Purpose Range Complex (MPRC) now.

44 posted on 02/15/2014 2:22:21 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

“Includes a mosque, eh? How intolerant. /sarc “

That’s so they can practice not hitting it and bowing to it as they pass.


45 posted on 02/15/2014 2:24:55 PM PST by PLMerite
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The subway carriages even carry the same logo as the carriages in Washington DC.

I'm glad they're only training to kill civilians in Washington, DC...

If they'd just build a replica of the white house and congress, I'd give them a standing O to blow them to hell - and then go do it for real!

46 posted on 02/15/2014 2:28:19 PM PST by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


47 posted on 02/15/2014 2:30:25 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As government expands, liberty contracts. - President Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: dfwgator

Rock Ridge—the fake version!

They built that overnight, too!


48 posted on 02/15/2014 2:34:42 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: PLMerite
That’s so they can practice not hitting it and bowing to it as they pass.

First, I laughed.

Then, I cried.

49 posted on 02/15/2014 2:37:20 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Little Bill

In today’s Army, you’d be charged with assault!


50 posted on 02/15/2014 3:03:17 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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