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A steady flow of talented, industrious immigrants can fuel a booming economy
The Fresno Bee ^ | February 13, 2014 | Thomas J. Donohue, president & CEO, U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

Posted on 02/15/2014 2:28:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: BitWielder1
By Legal Immigrant I mean within existing quotas.

The existing quotas of 1.2 million are too high. We don't need that many.

Productive immigrants only adds to the economy, they pay taxes, buy products and services and for every job they take, somewhere up or down the supply line, another job is created.

Check out the charts on my post #54. Legal immigrants use the welfare system to a higher degree than the native born. They are bankrupting our social safety net. 20% of legal immigrants lack even a high school degree. They use more in services than they contribute in taxes.

We just had our two highest decades of immigration in history. We have 20 million Americans unemployed or underemployed. Where are all the jobs these immigrants have created? Check out my post #60.

81 posted on 02/15/2014 10:01:31 PM PST by kabar
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To: staytrue

No one has a problem bringing in the best and the brightest by the hundreds or maybe thousands. But the vast majority of the 1.2 million legal immigrants who enter annually are not exceptional. In fact 20% are high school dropouts. Do we really need to import hundreds of thousands of high school dropouts annually?


82 posted on 02/15/2014 10:08:09 PM PST by kabar
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To: RipSawyer

And I said it was true, where? I read it and did think. Sure it has meaning for writing this article. Think.


83 posted on 02/16/2014 5:40:17 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

I didn’t say that you said it was true. I asked the question, how can you say it is true which was intended as a rhetorical question, I apologize if I did not make myself clear.

“Among all 25- to 34-year-olds living in the United States, 10.6 percent of those with masters, professional or doctoral degrees are foreign born, compared with 8.5 percent of native-born young people....”

I still see no real meaning in this, it would seem to say that 8.5 percent of native born young people are actually foreign born which is of course impossible. First he says what percentage of a group is foreign born and then compares that to the percentage of native born young people. What is that supposed to mean? If he is trying to say that 8.5 percent of native born 25 to 34 year old people have advanced degrees that is apples to oranges, comparing the percentage of advanced degree holders who are foreign to the percentage of natives who are advanced degree holders is meaningless. If he means that 8.5 percent of advanced degree holders in that age range are native born then what are the other 80.9 percent of advanced degree holders in that age group, are they neither foreign nor native?
Did he in fact intend to write that 10.6 percent of the foreign born in that age range have advanced degrees? That would seem to allow a valid comparison but it is not what was written and I would not believe it anyway considering the number of low education illegal immigrants in this country, otherwise I see no valid comparison here of any kind, one may have been intended but it was certainly not written.

The only information I can glean from it without question is that it was written by an incompetent or very careless author and that author is apparently CEO of the United States Chamber of Commerce, a very frightening thought. I would not be surprised to learn that he is the sort who would respond to my criticism with an angry, “You know what I meant, don’t nitpick!” Actually I don’t know what he meant, I can only guess.

Others have posted to this thread pointing out the same errors I am attempting to point out.


84 posted on 02/16/2014 9:08:11 AM PST by RipSawyer (No tagline added because I have switched to tackle.)
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To: RipSawyer
I didn’t say that you said it was true. YES YOU DID!

I asked the question, how can you say it is true AND here you admit it,

which was intended as a rhetorical question,

And I was to know what you INTENDED to do? I don't mind read.

I apologize if I did not make myself clear.

You made yourself very clear. You simply failed to mentioned what was in your mind - be careful next time, FR isn't a mind-reading place.

85 posted on 02/16/2014 11:56:12 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: RipSawyer
Actually I don’t know what he meant, I can only guess

You did rhw same thing!! You expected me to read your mind!

Others have posted to this thread pointing out the same errors I am attempting to point out.

Here you are pointing out errors when you did the SAME thing. It doesn't pay to be so self righteous as if you saw something no one else did. You ASSUME way too much! Next time 'check yourself' instead of being a busy body attempting to check others.

86 posted on 02/16/2014 12:15:21 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Do you freak out often?


87 posted on 02/16/2014 7:18:44 PM PST by RipSawyer (No tagline added because I have switched to tackle.)
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To: RipSawyer

Just when a self-righteous busybody needs to be put in place.


88 posted on 02/16/2014 7:21:45 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name

Suit yourself but there is still no discernible meaning to this,
“Among all 25- to 34-year-olds living in the United States, 10.6 percent of those with masters, professional or doctoral degrees are foreign born, compared with 8.5 percent of native-born young people....”
I suspect that your indignation springs primarily from having to admit that to yourself.
Have a good day.


89 posted on 02/17/2014 4:54:21 AM PST by RipSawyer (No tagline added because I have switched to tackle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“A steady flow of talented, industrious immigrants can fuel a booming economy”

What can a tidal wave of unskilled, shiftless immigrants do to an already stalled economy?


90 posted on 02/17/2014 4:07:25 PM PST by Boogieman
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