Posted on 02/19/2014 5:20:12 AM PST by TurboZamboni
“If that be true, why do the cops have standing to carry a loaded deadly weapon on MY property?”
In fact, you can, assuming they don’t have a warrant.
“Homosexuals pay taxes, should churches be forced to host their “marriages?””
Non sequitur. Homos can attend church.
“should be able to decide whom they will allow on their property.”
Allow on is one thing, demanding additional actions of those coming onto the property is another. You don’t get to have sex with a man’s wife a condition of access.
Our Declaration of Independence states we have right endowed by our creator. The Bill of Rights enumerates those further. Why is it that you think you get to violate those rights because someone is present on your property?
“You seem to be saying you don’t believe in private property.”
Your person is our ultimate private property, yet, you claim that you can violate that property simply because someone is standing on lands that you own.
“Carrying a gun is conduct. “
Your logic fails right at that point. It is not conduct. You’d have to be really stupid to think possession of anything is conduct.
If you are so paranoid about other people’s actions, then go live in a cave and be anti-social.
We have rights and being present on your land doesn’t mean you get to violate those rights.
You sound like a liberal. Seriously. This is the same logical stupidity that liberals use to ban guns altogether.
“The police can enter your home, given probable cause, “
Not just any probable cause. That phrase is thrown around a bit too much. They must have exigent circumstances which includes harm to self or others. Simple probable cause is not sufficient.
I believe in property/premises rights, but the key is whether open to the public or not. And I don’t write the laws we now have. But I follow them if the are made by a constitutional process if possible.
No. Actually I said the exact opposite in a previous post.
How does refusing to serve someone, or demanding that he vacate my private property, violate his person?
May your chains rest lightly on your wrists and ankles, slave.
In Virginia, one may carry in publically owned stadiums, civic centers, etc.
That is a good start, but until that can be said of State property, then it is merely a paper tiger.
Oh, we can carry on state property as well - with the exception of court buildings, which I’m pretty sure is a federal law.
We can even carry in in the State House.
I was simply commenting that Virginia has not banned, and does not allow localities to ban, carry in state-owned/supported concert and sports venues.
That is, indeed, one of the few things I like about being in VA, but with the new Gov and AG, that may not last too long.
True.
“Your logic fails right at that point. It is not conduct. You’d have to be really stupid to think possession of anything is conduct.”
con·duct [n. kon-duhkt; v. kuhn-duhkt] Show IPA
noun
1. personal behavior; way of acting; bearing or deportment.
The act of carrying a gun is conduct. The act of having pink skin is not. Calling me stupid is stupid.
You must be in Northern Virginia?
I've lived in rural Virginia for most of my life, and I like just about everything about it apart from democrat politicians.
I have to disagree with you. Conduct, as you have rightfully defined, is behavior. Wearing an item is not behavioral. How you act while wearing something, is. So, by definition, wearing something cannot be conduct. Just as wearing jeans is not conduct, but dancing in them, is.
F'Burg. Was stationed at Quantico for the remainder of my career in my beloved Corps and stayed for my kids while they finished school.
“demanding that he vacate my private property, violate his person?”
If you can’t keep your hands to yourself and respect the private property of other persons then don’t invite people to your property.
You posted a definition of the word and yet you can’t understand the very definition you posted, so, yes, you are stupid.
Carrying a weapon is not acting. Acting is beh...never mind. I’m arguing with an idiot.
What are you babbling about?
At no time have I advocated touching or physically harming anyone.
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