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Man Shames a Walmart Shoplifter – Was He Wrong?
nj1015. com The Dennis andJudi Show ^ | February 20, 2014 1:25 PM | 1015.com The Dennis andJudi Show

Posted on 02/21/2014 3:09:42 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum

A man who worked for loss prevention was in Walmart and caught a woman shoplifting. What happened after that is the big question of how to handle situation like this.

The man did NOT work for Walmart. By no means are we condoning what the woman did, it obviously is wrong to steal. But did this guy go too far in shaming this woman or did he teacher her a valuable lesson?

At the end of the video, you can hear the guy giggling, almost like he enjoyed shaming her and catching it on video.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: shoplifting
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To: Lawgvr1955

Might be an employee scam.

I don’t know the exact process, but a cashier might be able to manually punch in a number for a card in his pocket while pretending to enter the number on your card. Or maybe ‘palm and switch’ a scanned card, though that would seem more difficult.

Walmart corporate should certainly be alerted.


21 posted on 02/21/2014 5:04:53 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: trebb

shame, restitution, responsibility, modesty, sacrifice....

Sadly, with so many, they are just a few “words” that have no meaning today.
Bring back the fire & brimstone!


22 posted on 02/21/2014 5:06:56 AM PST by FES0844
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To: newnhdad

I have seen so many Amish at Walmart in the make up section trying on make up and nail polish. It is so disgusting that I did finally report it to an employee who simply said to them, “Stop doing that” and nothing more. Of course, the employee was ignored and the used make up and nail polish was most likely sold to an unsuspecting customer.


23 posted on 02/21/2014 5:18:48 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: bert
Free Speech ....he can ask anything he wants

And she should have used her Free Speech, and told him to **** off.

25 posted on 02/21/2014 5:48:36 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

In a functioning civil society, EVERYBODY would do what this guy did.


26 posted on 02/21/2014 5:50:22 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: albie

Question is flawed because she’s not a shoplifter until she leaves the store. If she wasn’t shoplifting her reaction would have completely different. She was intending to but didn’t.


“Intending” is in the mind.

“Attempting” is about actions that are leading toward a crime. Attempt is a crime in itself.


27 posted on 02/21/2014 6:08:05 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

His only mistake was threatening physical force.


28 posted on 02/21/2014 6:11:53 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: Fresh Wind

And she should have used her Free Speech, and told him to **** off.”

...agreed. If she had her wits about her she would have said that and then proceeded to the check out counter. But she probably didn’t have the money, flipped out and ran.


29 posted on 02/21/2014 6:18:29 AM PST by albie
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To: Focault's Pendulum
The most she could have been charged with was attempted retail fraud. He threatened assault, unlawful imprisonment, and a threadbare case of attempted identity theft could have been made against him. Best thing to do in this situation is to alert an employee that there is a possible shoplifter--do anything else and you open yourself up to litigation.

And yes: Stealing is wrong.

30 posted on 02/21/2014 6:19:03 AM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Fresh Wind

+1.


31 posted on 02/21/2014 6:19:25 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Focault's Pendulum

I have a very clear perspective on what this guy did, and it was being a jackass in public. And I strongly recommend that anybody with jackass inclinations had better start “putting a cork in it”, because such behavior is going to get them shot.

This is why etiquette exists. To teach jackasses to keep a cork in it when they feel compelled to be jackasses, so they won’t get shot for being jackasses.

The jackass was just lucky that this woman complied. Had she told him to go to Hell and he grabbed her, it would have been legal for her to air condition him with a .38. And truthfully, were I to sit on her jury, while she might get convicted for shoplifting, I would have to find her innocent of murder.

The jackass probably though he was “being a good citizen”. No he wasn’t. If Walmart knew what he was doing, they could justifiably ban him from their stores for life, for exposing them to who knows what litigation.

Every adult citizen in America enforce the law. The police are just a convenience. And citizens have a lot more latitude to enforce the law than do the police. But this does not mean citizens have a carte blanche to assail each other over real or imagined slights, especially against a third party.


32 posted on 02/21/2014 6:32:23 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

While shoplifting/customer theft and even employee theft have been with us for a very long time, I wonder how much worse it has become since the advent of the Liberal Progressive era.

Perhaps it is time to label each and every actual and perceived degradation of society as “0bama’s Fault”.


33 posted on 02/21/2014 7:08:28 AM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Focault's Pendulum
He's a bully, but if being bullied and publicly humiliated is the only consequence she will receive she got off light.
34 posted on 02/21/2014 7:30:09 AM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Focault's Pendulum; All
It just might be she was only stupid - Since she had TWO purses, one a new one from the store - she may have been stupidly using like a shopping bag - and intending to put and contents on counter for paying - what shoplifter expects to leave a store hanging onto TWO purses without getting stoppsd?

If she had been putting things in her OWN purse - different story.

And he had NO right to demand her ID - She was scared silly by this bully - as would anyone have been. He may find himself in very hot water...He can't prove she was going to LEAVE the store with the stuff - at which time it would have then been shopligting/and to put the video on the net! He's going to rue the day -

35 posted on 02/21/2014 7:52:44 AM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

I did a quick search and found a story that says she was out on bail at thr time of the video, and the social security card was not hers.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/19/im-getting-pretty-sick-of-seeing-shoplifters-in-here-video-purportedly-captures-man-confronting-walmart-shoplifter/#


36 posted on 02/21/2014 7:53:56 AM PST by Gefn (No whammies)
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To: exDemMom
The nicest store we found was Walmart, and it was a 16 mile drive away.

Can't be true, I'm sure it was a hell-hole.

I know, I read FreeRepublic comments.

37 posted on 02/21/2014 8:33:28 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: newnhdad

hate saying it but it’s not his business.


Look up “Hue and cry”.

In common law, a hue and cry is a process by which bystanders are summoned to assist in the apprehension of a criminal who has been witnessed in the act of committing a crime.


38 posted on 02/21/2014 11:00:50 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: trebb

Shame has been totally forgotten these days


39 posted on 02/21/2014 11:05:34 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

Shame has been totally forgotten these days


Branding “T”, “A”, “M”, as applicable on the convict’s cheek or forehead provides a not so subtle reminder and warning.......


40 posted on 02/21/2014 11:08:46 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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