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At the Supreme Court, a royal mess for ‘King Barack’
The Washington Post ^ | 2-24-14 | Dana Milbank

Posted on 02/25/2014 1:06:18 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

It has the makings of a royal mess for “King Barack.”

Monday morning’s Supreme Court argument about the Environmental Protection Agency’s authority to regulate greenhouse gases went badly for the Obama administration — so much so that the real question before the justices seemed to be how severe the EPA’s loss would be.

The administration’s solicitor general, Donald Verrilli, pleaded with the justices to recognize the “urgent problem” of climate change, because the “threat to future generations gets worse” with each passing year.

But as the argument played out, the court’s swing justice, Anthony Kennedy, made clear that he agreed with the conservatives that the administration had gone too far in its carbon-dioxide regulations. Even some of the liberal justices voiced skepticism about the Justice Department’s position.

“I know litigants hate this question,” Justice Sonia Sotomayor told Verrilli. She asked which of two rationales he would prefer “if you were going to lose.”

“I knew you were going to ask me that question,” the solicitor general replied.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: co2; emissions; epa; epaoutofcontrol; scotus
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1 posted on 02/25/2014 1:06:18 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The administration’s solicitor general, Donald Verrilli, pleaded with the justices to recognize the “urgent problem” of climate change, because the “threat to future generations gets worse” with each passing year.

This is an argument to make before the Legislature. The fact that the Administration is asking the nine Justices of the Supreme Court to make this kind of a scientific decision shows how far we are down the rabbit hole.

2 posted on 02/25/2014 1:27:48 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: Haiku Guy

>> the Supreme Court to make this kind of a scientific decision

Not the first time the idiots proved science is political.


3 posted on 02/25/2014 1:34:56 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’d like to be optimistic. But when it comes to the SCOTUS actually getting it right it’s hard to be optimistic. I’ll continue to pray for a smidgen of sanity.


4 posted on 02/25/2014 1:35:50 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

How much will King Barack’s thumb be on the scales of justice to get what he wants without appearing too obvious, I wonder.


5 posted on 02/25/2014 1:36:32 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Haiku Guy

Exactly right.


6 posted on 02/25/2014 1:36:50 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Gene Eric

Bingo


7 posted on 02/25/2014 1:37:17 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Kennedy swings both ways.


8 posted on 02/25/2014 1:38:24 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Never again will I underestimate the supreme courts ability to come up with the wrong decision on any Constitutional matter.


9 posted on 02/25/2014 1:42:20 AM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: Bullish
Remember "Bush can sign McCain/Fiengold, because the Supreme Court will just throw it out!..."
10 posted on 02/25/2014 1:46:03 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: Haiku Guy

Yes and there’s many more examples like Roberts finding that Obamacare fines were just taxes after all, therefore making it Constitutional.

This entire government is working against liberty AND justice and they all need to be replaced, ASAP.


11 posted on 02/25/2014 1:52:33 AM PST by Bullish (America should yank Obama like a rotten tooth before he poisons the entire body)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Praying for sanity and dare I say “adherence to our Constitution”?


12 posted on 02/25/2014 2:00:21 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Bullish

Roe v Wade ...


13 posted on 02/25/2014 2:01:24 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Haiku Guy

Trying to guess what the SCOTUS will do has bitten the right to many times before.

Only way to know is wait and see what they do and I’m not making any bets they’ll do the right thing. We have Obamacare, enough said.


14 posted on 02/25/2014 2:03:08 AM PST by maddog55
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I lost all respect for them with the Obummercare vote.


15 posted on 02/25/2014 2:05:21 AM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow,and our planet began to heal.

Welcome King Barack "Canute" Obama the Great.....

...Obama issues an Executive Order to the Sun...

....to increase it's magnetic field....

and make a good crop of sunspots before elections in 2016....

(PhysOrg.com) -- Sunspot formation is triggered by a magnetic field, which scientists say is steadily declining. They predict that by 2016 there may be no remaining sunspots, and the sun may stay spotless for several decades.

The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age....and lasted 400 years.

Good luck surviving with no electricity and GE modified seeds.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news203746768.html#jCp

16 posted on 02/25/2014 2:05:24 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“Either way, it was clear that this court would not be of service to the ‘king.’ “( From the article.)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

They will be once the NSA has dished up or manufactured dirt on them.


17 posted on 02/25/2014 2:11:29 AM PST by wintertime
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Uh, Dana, I have news for you: SCOTUS is not a reliable barometer for protecting Constitutional freedoms.

And besides, the Clown and his jester Eric the Red have already demonstrated they will IGNORE the law.


18 posted on 02/25/2014 2:14:36 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: spokeshave

” known as the Little Ice Age....and lasted 400 years.”
_____________________________________________________
Yes, which followed the MWP (Medieval Warm Period), when Greenland was partly green.
The AGW clowns are composed of con artist and their useful idiots.


19 posted on 02/25/2014 2:18:58 AM PST by AlexW
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To: spokeshave
The last time the sunspots disappeared altogether was in the 17th and 18th century, and coincided with a lengthy cool period on the planet known as the Little Ice Age....and lasted 400 years. Good luck surviving with no electricity and GE modified seeds.

Okay, I'm curious. How does low, or no sunspots, translate into "no electricity"?

20 posted on 02/25/2014 2:38:37 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Have the oceans truly risen? Anybody? Bueller?


21 posted on 02/25/2014 2:45:03 AM PST by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I thought SCTOUS already ruled on this. How is this case different from Massachusetts v. EPA, 549 U.S. 497 (2007)?
22 posted on 02/25/2014 2:55:31 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: raybbr

Good luck surviving with no electricity and GE modified seeds.
Okay, I’m curious. How does low, or no sunspots, translate into “no electricity”?

King Obama has decreed the shutdown of the coal and oil industries providing fuel for the generation of electricity because he claims they produce carbon dioxide emissions causing Global Warming and Climate Change (Anthropogenic Climate Change AGW). King Obama is a Denier when it comes to the science of Global Cooling when the Earth’s climate goes into the extraordinary little ice age for a period of decades or centuries in response to the cyclical weakening of the Solar magnetic field and ceases the normal production of Sunspots for prolonged periods of time.


23 posted on 02/25/2014 2:56:45 AM PST by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; All
"but..but..it's for the all the little chil'ren" *bowing/scraping/clinging/crying* don't cha' know.
we all know the truth of the matter, the unadulterated grasping of power/$$$$.
It seems even the pResident 0'Muslim's Marxists minions on the USSC can't
swallow the spiel/arguments of Michael Mann's climate claptrap..but you never
know, maybe NYT/WaPo/0'Muslim can "coerce" spineless John Roberts to their side.

24 posted on 02/25/2014 3:08:14 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: WhiskeyX
King Obama is a Denier when it comes to the science of Global Cooling when the Earth’s climate goes into the extraordinary little ice age for a period of decades or centuries in response to the cyclical weakening of the Solar magnetic field and ceases the normal production of Sunspots for prolonged periods of time.

I get that part. The part I don't get it how lack of sunspots affects coal production or the production of electricity?

25 posted on 02/25/2014 3:15:55 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There should be a separation of church and state. Oh, wait?


26 posted on 02/25/2014 3:23:05 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: afraidfortherepublic

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


27 posted on 02/25/2014 3:32:34 AM PST by abclily
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To: spokeshave
hold it right there, partner; it's a great risk.. ;-)
to approach the USSC w/scientific & economic
projections, this is a purely political opportunity
..like the very informative charts
..
(like the monkeys in the Super Bowl commercials
..they'll (pols) shall just turn the charts upside down (sop :).

28 posted on 02/25/2014 3:32:35 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: raybbr
"no electricity"
great point..but they'll argue the btu rate (hockey stick)
in their "false/specious" hypothesis.

29 posted on 02/25/2014 3:42:54 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Obama IS King.

Laws are supposed to made by the Congress, which is
just too busy with its child brothels, Ambien,
alcohol, and TREASON.


30 posted on 02/25/2014 3:46:01 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Supreme Court has screwed us before. Remember how the openning arguements went well against obamacare. Roberts stabbed the American people in the back on that one — what is different now? I’m sure that NSA data they collected is still good for blackmailing him.


31 posted on 02/25/2014 3:52:00 AM PST by Londo Molari
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To: abclily
*dull humor/*
G*D 0'Muslim, shall just turn it off/(use kill switch) in the Western Civilization,
it's that simple, the 8th century ME survives..do i really need a /s tag?
*/dull humor*
32 posted on 02/25/2014 3:56:04 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

IMO, NONE of those black robed pseudo intellectuals belong in that magnificent building which was built to house the final arbitrators of justice in the country.

The only thing supreme about the occupants of this Supreme Court are their massive ego’s and sense of grandiosity.


33 posted on 02/25/2014 4:03:45 AM PST by RetSignman
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To: Londo Molari
"The Supreme Court has screwed us before. Remember how the openning arguements went well against obamacare. Roberts stabbed the American people in the back on that one — what is different now? I’m sure that NSA data they collected is still good for blackmailing him."

And how many people have already died and will die because of Roberts' corruption? There is blood on his hands and in an alternate remade America, Roberts would be put on trial for his crimes and spend his days in a small windowless cell.

34 posted on 02/25/2014 4:16:03 AM PST by Truth29
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To: fwdude

And Kagan the wrong way.


35 posted on 02/25/2014 4:19:28 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Gee, didn’t the press report that the Obamacare hearings went badly for the administration too?

Don’t worry, the libs will support their man and Justice Roberts will find a miracle theory to allow the EPA to continue to simply line-out text of the law and replace it with text they prefer.

Then certain elements will tell us how Brilliant Roberts was by laying a trap that the EPA will fall into.


36 posted on 02/25/2014 4:29:34 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; All
From the Article: 'The solicitor general assured him that “human beings are actually net neutral on carbon emissions,” so “it doesn’t matter how many family members you have.”'

What BS. Humans emit carbon dioxide and are not net neutral. So the solicitor is lying. The administration is speaking out both sides of it's mouth as usual.

37 posted on 02/25/2014 4:55:47 AM PST by sr4402
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Who’s got faith in the Supremes? What with Roberts tearing up the constitution and the majority declaring against carbon dioxide, not to mention their consistent support of killing the unborn.


38 posted on 02/25/2014 5:06:23 AM PST by kenmcg
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Latina was not at The State of The Union. All is not well in SCOTUS land. The reason given was that she was in Cal. judging a Moot Court contest.


39 posted on 02/25/2014 5:09:55 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Haiku Guy

Alternatively, it illustrates to the justices that the administration knows the congress will never legislate in it’s favor on carbon lies. Faux science will not prevail in the congress


40 posted on 02/25/2014 5:11:35 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Roberts will obey his lord and master.


41 posted on 02/25/2014 5:14:07 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: kenmcg

I don’t trust ‘em as far as I could throw ‘em.


42 posted on 02/25/2014 5:15:11 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: afraidfortherepublic

So now SCOTUS decides scientific issues too? Ridiculous.


43 posted on 02/25/2014 5:20:24 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Dogbert41

“Have the oceans truly risen? Anybody? Bueller?

Predictably they have, every six hours or so, but so far they have always receded.


44 posted on 02/25/2014 5:42:49 AM PST by billhilly
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To: raybbr
Okay, I'm curious. How does low, or no sunspots, translate into "no electricity"?

In case you haven't noticed...the Obama regime is busily shutting down coal powered and nuclear plants.....good luck getting much power from snow laden solar panels and frozen windmills.

45 posted on 02/25/2014 6:50:31 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I’d like to be optimistic. But when it comes to the SCOTUS actually getting it right it’s hard to be optimistic.

With our current Supreme Court and its' ruling on Obamacare it is now "Damn the Constitution! Anything goes!"

46 posted on 02/25/2014 7:12:50 AM PST by OldMissileer
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To: AlexW
How did the 17th and 18th centuries combined last 400 years?

Did it just seem that long because no one had TV or the internet?

47 posted on 02/25/2014 7:20:24 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: spokeshave

What do sunspots have to do with the production of of electricity vis a vis coal?


48 posted on 02/25/2014 7:26:26 AM PST by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What is the SCOTUS even doing hearing this? The Congress should have clamped down on the EPA by defunding it long ago. The whole agency needs to be shut down.


49 posted on 02/25/2014 7:35:38 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: OldMissileer

Exactly.


50 posted on 02/25/2014 10:58:09 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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