Posted on 03/05/2014 7:12:16 AM PST by Kaslin
“Congress has already done that to Holder and nothing has happened. Obama has been punking the GOP the same way Putin has been punking Obama.”
So true. It fully illustrates the shape that the national GOP is in.
Limit the immunity to be revoked at any point she refuses to cooperate with the investigation.
Grats, Issa, you look like the f***ing useless idiot that you are AGAIN.
Woooooo, good show, encore!
"In national news, a republican led hearing on the IRS has led to the unconstitutional jailing of one former government official. The recently retired official, Lois Lerner, had invoked her right to not testify about sensitive IRS work in identifying fraudulent non-profit organizations. In a move critics are calling an unprecedented partisan act, the republican led committee had her jailed in violation of the 5th amendment. She remains in a cell tonight. The committee chair, Republican Congressman Daryl Issa could not be reached for comment. However earlier today Senator Chuck Schumer had this to say..."
There’s two ways to change a country’s direction. Ballots and bullets. I’ve always believed in ballots. No more.
We need to get the apolitical interested in this. Here’s my Facebook post today:
Facebook is mainly a place to keep up with old friends and family. In that vein, Ive tried to limit my political posts.
But, today I have to say something to all of my friends, because EVERY US citizen needs to recognize this:
FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO YEARS (OR MORE), THE IRS WAS TARGETING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS.
Fact.
If you are not aware of this issue, I urge you to research it. Start with the Google searches Lois Lerner and “not even a smidgen”.
If you will tolerate this, what other forms of government corruption and suppression will you support?
First they came
1.) What did the next Speaker of the House, Trey Gowdy, say at the hearing or to reporters?
2.) Why are we surprised that RINO Obamacrat Issa was surprised? DUH!
Yes but only by Harry Reid's Senate.
WE are never again going to be a truly FREE people for so long as we continue to abide the Marxist income tax and the IRS!!! http://fairtax.org
not holding my breath
I felt that was a pretty fair outcome, but then found out they were referring to being fired.
I think they have the right to invoke the fifth. But I agree they can be fired.
I see the right in the constitution and of course I believe in it. I just don’t see how you can use it when you are an employee of the US gov.. You are a representative at this point.
I understood your meaning of terminate and why you were disappointed.
Let's check the source, the Fifth Amendment:
"...[No person] shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, ..."
I don't see anything here which states that you must remain completely silent in order to have a Fifth Amendment right not to be compelled to testify against one's self.
These same legal tyrants who would claim so, will also claim that you must identify yourself, for example; that is, they compel you to speak and would not hesitate to charge you for obstruction if you claimed an identity not your own. THAT is the very essence of requiring one to testify against one's self.
Lerner said she did nothing wrong and evidently said so under oath(?). If so, then the proper charge is perjury if it can be proved that she did do something wrong and intentionally lied about it.
Without unconditional immunity which applies in every jurisdiction in the world, there should be no way to punish someone for failing to testify. Then there are further complications which apply to privileged communications with one's spouse, doctor, priest, or lawyer.
But apparently there is a long standing court tradition that if you start answering questions you waive your right to the fifth. And supposedly that's to protect the right to cross examine. You can't present one side in court and then shut down when the opposing attorneys start questioning.
That's what Issa and committee are trying to apply here, basically claiming that the congressional hearing is a court and the same rules apply.
But I disagree. Unless she's been indicted and it's clearly a trial, then I think she can refuse.
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