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So if you're not penalized for the wrong answer, why take the test?
1 posted on 03/05/2014 12:48:19 PM PST by edcoil
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Somehow, there are many College Board people involved with Common Core


40 posted on 03/05/2014 2:10:31 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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So if you’re not penalized for the wrong answer, why take the test?

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Re removing the essay part. I think that it’s a number of features. First, too often students entering colleges (this is Kalifornia but likely true elsewhere) are not literate and therefore are required to take remedial English courses. So if they are going to have to take remedial English anyway, why have the essay section? I think this happened in Kalifornia because to be “fair” (increase minority admission over more qualified Asian and white students)the state public university system started considering for admission the top 10% of every high school. (talk about grade inflation tsunami).
Then there is the likelihood that they were using software programs to try to replace the time/effort/reliability issues of using live scorers.

If they were using live scorers - it’s time consuming and requires many highly skilled people (with better things to do with their time) to sit in a room and read essays all day. With the rate at which literacy is falling in our country, they are probably finding it hard to hire enough and are having to pay more for them. (e.g., it takes weeks of interviewing administrative assistants to find one that can write a business letter) So live scoring is very slow and expensive compared with computer scoring. They do train and test their scorers to try to eliminate subjectivity - scorers train until they are rating papers on par with others in their group - but it is always an issue.

I can imagine that inter-rater reliability was the subject of lawsuits when certain students were not admitted or perhaps challenges indicating that there were cultural differences that the “highly educated scorers” were not prepared to properly evaluate.(multiculturalism)

I think the strongest reason for changes to SAT scores is indeed common core -the scores MUST appear to increase with common core.


41 posted on 03/05/2014 2:14:33 PM PST by ransomnote
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What kept the SAT as a test where in about 95% of the cases a good test-prepper could predict within 100 points (usually much closer) a students score would be on each section is the penalty for guessing. It meant that a person would benefit from not guessing wildly, thus it required knowing the material.

Without a penalty a "good guesser" can easily come out above average. With the penalty, it's hard.

45 posted on 03/05/2014 2:22:42 PM PST by grania
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If they dumb down the SAT any further they might as well just ask, “Are you a liberal? If so, perfect score!”


46 posted on 03/05/2014 2:24:11 PM PST by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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How many correct answers is the key. My score in the Verbal section was 780..Math, not so hot 410, At least I exempted English in college when the placement test they gave was averaged with the SAT. My kids scored the opposite, high in Math and average in English.


50 posted on 03/05/2014 3:05:11 PM PST by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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Here’s one you may find interesting.


51 posted on 03/05/2014 4:32:34 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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This might not be as bad as it sounds...

The writing portion was added to the SAT several years ago, and many universities won’t even consider it, anyway, in the admissions process.

Also, according to what I’ve heard, by not penalizing students for wrong answers, the SAT is trying to become more like the ACT, which doesn’t deduct penalties for wrong answers.


52 posted on 03/05/2014 5:03:31 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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54 posted on 03/05/2014 6:35:20 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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In other words, the old SAT’s are just plain too difficult for today’s kids....


55 posted on 03/05/2014 9:14:50 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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before the new exam kicks in, the College Board, in partnership with Khan Academy, will offer free online practice problems from old tests and instructional videos showing how to solve them.
This could be bad news for the Washington Post. Wasn’t Kaplan, the SAT Prep outfit, a cash cow for the owner of the WaPo? Competition from Khan could subvert Kaplan’s profitability (even more, I think it had fallen on hard times IIRC)

56 posted on 03/06/2014 9:12:44 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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