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HCSO: Houston area father kills boy he found in daughter's bedroom
My Fox Houston ^ | 3/13/14 | Kathryn Yglecias

Posted on 03/13/2014 12:11:59 PM PDT by Sopater

Edited on 03/13/2014 12:16:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Homicide investigators are gathering evidence after a father shoots and kills a teenage boy he found in his daughter's bedroom.

A spokesperson for the Harris County Sheriff's office said Deputy constables from pct 4 responded to a 911 call around 2:20 a.m. about a shooting in the Bridgestone Lake Subdivision in Northwest Harris County.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
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To: bigdaddy45
Really? So she’s 16 years old, home after school, and a girlfriend comes over, and she’s not allowed to invite her into the house unless you are at home to provide actual permission. Wow.

Well, his screen name fits.

121 posted on 03/13/2014 3:13:14 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: ctdonath2; bigdaddy45
He knew he was sneaking into a home under conditions where his presence would be seriously unwelcome. He shouldn’t have been there and he knew it, and she knew it, and she denied inviting him, and she denied knowing him, and he made a movement which a reasonable person could conclude had unacceptable odds of grave harm, and the homeowner had reason to believe someone was about to die, and he had but a split second to decide who that would be.

I would not even have to go that far:

In my own brilliantly misspent yoot, I have had the occasion to hear the boots on the stairs, and the familiar ka'chink, and the panicked gathering of clothes, and the ungainly naked leap from a second story window, and the run (like who flung the chunk) for the tree line...

I knew the risk going in. I knew exactly what those 'boots on the stairs' meant. Had I hid under the bed, or made any move other than the one I did, I would be very dead right now.

Ya just don't mess with a man's daughter. And doubly so in his own house. That a man might be reasonable under that condition is laudatory - But certainly not expected. In fact, what happened is 'what is to be expected'. And every pimple-faced horn dog knows it going in.

122 posted on 03/13/2014 3:13:27 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: bigdaddy45

Those were not the facts available to the father at the time. He sees a stranger in bed with his daughter. If this had been a boyfriend that the family was familiar with it would have been a different story. So the kid’s a stranger to the girl’s father. The girl claims not to know him. The father has no idea how old the kid is or whether he’s a known sex offender or not. He shoots the guy after the guy makes a sudden move. Could have been going for a weapon. There were a LOT of unknown variables but the facts known to the father justified the shooting.

Yes, the kid deserves to be dead based on the father’s perspective. Yes, the father is innocent of any wrongdoing and the girl is guilty of behavior which led to the kid’s death. Would the father act differently if he knew all the relevant facts? I’m guessing he would. But that’s a separate issue.

123 posted on 03/13/2014 3:19:44 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad
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To: DeepInTheHeartOfTexas
Well then Daddy, you won't be all that surprised when you find some kid in your house bangin' your sixteen year old.

125 posted on 03/13/2014 3:22:47 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Sopater

Tragedy for all involved.

You do stuff and sometimes bad things happen.

126 posted on 03/13/2014 3:36:57 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too... @Onelifetogive)
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To: Sopater

Unless the kid directly threatened an attack, this was murder.

All the tough guys on this thread are wrong.

End of subject.

127 posted on 03/13/2014 3:37:09 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Ingtar
The reaction to this story (for married men) might very well depend on whether they have or had a teenaged daughter.

Yeah, 'cuz teenaged daughters are much stupider than teenaged boys, right? This guy's a dangerous individual to own a gun.

128 posted on 03/13/2014 3:45:28 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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Castle doctrine would only apply if the kid broke in to the house, not if he was invited in. So the guy might be in trouble.

129 posted on 03/13/2014 3:47:11 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Eaker

You think two underagers having sex means one deserves to die?!?

130 posted on 03/13/2014 3:49:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Either the dad or the daughter is going to see the inside of the courtroom.

131 posted on 03/13/2014 3:51:12 PM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Eaker
Screwing his girlfriend?

No, he was screwing this man’s little girl.

Semantics. Pretty sure the girl's dad screwed someone's "little girl" in order to be a father. Maybe he could be shot and killed, too?

132 posted on 03/13/2014 3:51:52 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (
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To: SoothingDave

Especially an armed angry father.

133 posted on 03/13/2014 3:53:33 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: bigdaddy45

It is not whether he deserved it, but if he lived in Texas, he should have known better.

134 posted on 03/13/2014 3:55:21 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Sopater

The problem is, you don’t have a right to pull a gun on just anyone that happens to be in your home and give them orders to be obeyed at their mortal peril. There are rules as to when you have the right to do that, and when you don’t.

Since the boy was an invited guest, the father didn’t have that right, even if the father wasn’t the one who invited him. The daughter’s lie may have led him to believe that he had that right, but I don’t know if just that belief will protect him from prosecution.

In the end, the father’s lawyers may have to make a case of self-defense, but that is a higher standard and they would have to try to show that there was a reasonable belief that he was in danger, from a probably naked and unarmed teenage boy.

135 posted on 03/13/2014 3:55:52 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: skinkinthegrass

So, in your opinion, if someone lied and implied you were a rapist, it would be fine for someone to shoot you dead before ascertaining the facts?

136 posted on 03/13/2014 3:57:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: deport

WHy is the father under such restraints? Was he combative?

137 posted on 03/13/2014 3:58:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Sopater

What a heart breaking tragedy.

138 posted on 03/13/2014 3:59:35 PM PDT by tioga
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To: gdani
Prisons & death rows have been & still are filled with people who killed in a "heat of the moment" situation.

You've obviously never lived in Texas. The "Castle doctrine" in Texas is very strong. If someone is in your house or on your property without your permission, and they do ANYTHING to make you feel they are a threat to you, your family or your property, you can shoot them dead. You don't have to wait until they have a weapon, until they take a swing at you, or anything like that. The fact that the boy was in his house at 2 AM, in his daughter's room, and his daughter said she didn't know him is plenty of reason for the father to consider him a threat. The fact that he grabbed for something is just additional cause.

It is sad that the boy lost his life, and I am sure the dad will have some issues to deal with as a result. But you will never get a Texas grand jury to indict based on the facts that were given in the story. Unless something comes out that hasn't yet been told, such as the father shot the kid while he was lying face down on the floor, the only legla problems the father will have is the lawsuit that will be filed by the boy's parents.

139 posted on 03/13/2014 4:00:47 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: little jeremiah

Looks like he is getting a ride in am ambulance, while in police custody. Hmm. Article said no arrests made.

140 posted on 03/13/2014 4:00:57 PM PDT by tioga
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