Posted on 03/13/2014 12:11:59 PM PDT by Sopater
Edited on 03/13/2014 12:16:50 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Homicide investigators are gathering evidence after a father shoots and kills a teenage boy he found in his daughter's bedroom.
A spokesperson for the Harris County Sheriff's office said Deputy constables from pct 4 responded to a 911 call around 2:20 a.m. about a shooting in the Bridgestone Lake Subdivision in Northwest Harris County.
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And he should have had enough sense not to get into an argument with an enraged father.
The enraged father should have kept his head and used better judgement than either of the two teens. He murdered a teenaged boy.
“Sneaking into a man’s home to bang his minor daughter...in the middle of the night...in Texas...”
That’s almost like one of those number puzzles where you have to guess the next number in the sequence.
“I believe many of you are mistaken in the belief that anyone is happy someone is dead”
When people say stuff like “good riddance”, then I don’t think it’s a mistake to assume they are happy with the outcome.
Thank you.
I’ve never been in that EXACT situation (although a couple mighty similar) and I can attest to the fact that adrenline is wildly off the charts in every character in the drama.
The only jury that will hear this will be the grand jury. In Texas, the indictment has to come from the grand jury, not the police or the prosecutor. And based on the cases I observed while living in Houston, it will take no time at all for the grand jury to "no-bill" this case.
I remember a case back in the early 90's, when I was living in Houston. Someone from out-of-town, a Brit I believe, went out on the town and got drunk. Coming back, he could not remember which house he was staying in. He walked up to a house he thought looked familiar and knocked on the door loudly. When no one answered, he walked around to the back door and knocked again. The lady who lived in the home was frightened by this, and shot him dead through the closed door! She was never indicted, a fact that made the British government very unhappy.
Throw the daughter in prison. Her immediate claim to her father that she didn’t know him, led to his death.
What? She told her father she didn’t know him which caused him to think the boy had broken in and raped his daughter against her will. Think about that for a minute. Her LIE got that boy killed. SHE caused his death. The father thought he was protecting his daughter.
There is a difference between saying he got what he deserved and saying what happened to him was his own fault. I'm don't think you can say he "deserved" to die, but no one can be blamed for his death except him (and maybe the daughter as well).
WHy is the father under such restraints? Was he combative?
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He wasn’t feeling good and was being taken to a medical facility.
He’s on a gurney with medical equimpment etc.
“I don’t know how you do things, but my daughter, at 16, had no authority to invite anyone into MY house without my expressed permission.”
Well, you may not think so, but legally it’s a different story. Take, for example, this Texas case which ruled a 14 year old’s allowing police into a home without a warrant amounted to an admissible search:
http://www.tjjd.texas.gov/publications/reviews/11/11-3-15.aspx
The standards vary from state to state, but it is pretty common for minor children to be able to lawfully allow people on to the property where they live.
“He was 17. She was 16. She invited him in. And he DESERVES to be dead in your opinion?”
She is a minor child under the age of consent (17) and there is no exemption from prosecution even if both parties are under the age of consent. Tragic set of circumstances, but I can’t in the end fault the father if things really happened the way he says.
Not obeying commands from the daddy holding the gun is a bad move at any time, especially if he thinks you’re raping his daughter.
Voluntary Manslaughter for the dad.
Involuntary Manslaughter for the daughter.
sounds like a good shoot
Sure, but the flip side of that is, if you are too paranoid, and don’t give them the opportunity to exercise any judgement of their own, what happens in a couple years when they will have to do that? You can’t tuck em under your wing forever.
You also obviously have never lived in Texas. Unless things have changed greatly since I left, just the fact that the kid was in his house, was unknown. and made a sudden movement is enough. Heck, the "castle doctrine" applies not only to protecting people, but property. If you catch someone breaking into you car, parked in the driveway, and he starts running away with your property, you could legally shoot him to stop him from getting away with your property. At least, that's the way it was just a few years ago.
So if you can shoot someone running away just to keep him from stealing your stuff, what makes you think you have to wait until someone who is in your house at 2 AM without your permission threatens to attack you before you can do so?
When I was 17, a girl invited me over to talk over coffee. I had no interest in her other than as a friend at our high school, and I was acquainted with her boyfriend. So we were chatting over coffee in her kitchen, while her younger 10-year-old sister watched TV in the living room. Gal in the kitchen ambushed me with "affection", drags me to the couch and chases her younger sister off to her room. And shortly after, this gal drags me to her bedroom and strips. I protested the whole time. So we hear a car drive up, and she yells at me "it's my parents, get out now through the back door!". I hopped the backyard fence and left. If her father found me in her bedroom, I could've ended up like the boy in that story!
Anyway, later on I told a friend what happened. His eyes went wide, told me the same thing happened with him recently, and to a couple other guys we know, involving the same gal. The gal's boyfriend never knew what she was doing behind his back.
I think if them daughter and father had enough time to converse about who this interloper was, and they boy was standing there without an escape route, the father is looking at premeditation. He will be indicted, and probably convicted of second degree manslaughter. The fathers response is predictable and understandable. I do not see a winner in this situation.
No. He dealt with what he perceived as an extant threat to himself and his family in a perfectly legal manner (in Texas).
Now, I will admit that with the same set of circumstances out ere in California, the dad would be going to jail for a long time. But that is because California has ridiculous laws concerning any kind of self-defense, let alone using a gun.
Interesting. So you are equating a man having perfectly legal sexual relations with his wife to someone having sex with your underage, unmarried daughter?
Where are the Viking kitties when you need them? We seem to be infested with trolls on this thread.
You would be correct, and I rescind my previous statement.
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