Posted on 03/13/2014 1:52:00 PM PDT by blam
US Investigators Think Missing Plane Might Have Been Stolen To Use Later For Another Purpose
Michael Kelley
March. 13, 2014, 11:06 AM
U.S. investigators suspect that missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours after it reached its last confirmed location, according to Andy Pasztor of The Wall Street Journal.
The Journal originally reported that they obtained data from the aircraft's engines, but then issued a correction saying that U.S. investigators based their position on "an analysis of signals sent through the plane’s satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of some onboard systems."
Satellites picked up 'electronic pings' from the flight after it lost contact, Reuters reports.
Malaysian authorities immediately rebutted the initial report, but have not provided any new information about the fate of the flight. Today, the country's minister of defense and acting minister of transport said the plane simply "vanished."
CNN Chief International correspondent Jim Sciutto reports that the "pings" of engine data, radar data, and fuel range have led the U.S. to alter their search to the Indian Ocean.
The primary scenarios of what happened remain a possible hijacking, action by rogue crew, or some sort of catastrophic mechanical failure.
One person tracking the probe told The Journal that U.S. counterterrorism officials are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
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I doubt you have to be in the engine bay to turn off that system. Unless there are special satellite comm systems on the engine nacelles, that data is probably repackaged by the jet’s comm package and pushed out the satcomm antenna with everything else. And even if they *are* transmitting from their own antennas, they have breakers, too. Otherwise, a malfunctioning telemetry system could cause a fire itself if not disabled on fault.
Every electrical system on a jet is monitored and pretty much has a off switch in the cockpit, as I understand it. The reason being, is that any system can malfunction (even safety systems), so you have to have a breaker to switch off power, in case that system starts misbehaving. You wouldn’t want your flight recorder to crash your very expensive jet, killing your expnesively trained crew & paying customers in the name of safety!
Reasonable redundancy can only take you so far in the safety game. There are systems that if they fail, you won’t be flying anyway, I suppose some of those probably don’t have cockpit breakers, of if they do, they won’t be cycled off long.
I think that’s Charlie Gasperino on Fox Business News
A toilet almost bought down a cargo bird a few years ago. The ground crew put too many of the detergent balls into the toilet (makes the water blue and kills smell, etc). The balls foamed up too much and the foam mixture overflowed the holding tank and the water/foam mixture dripped into the avionics bay and started a fire. The crew was able to make an emergency landing.
I have to morbidly wonder, did the ground crew get fired, demoted, or Union Protected? :)
The jet was serviced outside the US.
It was the Langoliers...for mass distraction.
Maybe Kim Jung Un wanted a new pimped out plane?
Who is John Galt?
Apparently someone who can function without adequate O2 if the plane did a Payne Stewart and he turned off the transponders afterward.
If you don't call them, you could be prosecuted for obstructing justice.
We are so fortunate to have someone of your superior intellect and abilities in our midst.
Thank you so much!
Makes sense to me. Unfortunately, it all breaks down if you have a flight crew that’s doing the nefarious activity.
You’re the one saying a ‘payne stewart’ happened.
I merely pointed out a flaw in that theory. The transponders got turned off.
A sudden depressurization wouldn’t cause the transponders to get switched off. SOMEONE did that.
Not to mention in the Payne Stewart case the plane depressurized and flew on along the current heading until it ran out of fuel. The Malaysian plane apparently was able to do a 180, and turn off the transponders. Doesn’t sound like something an incapacitated flight crew would do.
Please, not another Liam Neeson movie!
In the old days, pirates hijacked ships and made the crew walk the plank. It's a big ocean, slow down the craft, open the doors and drop bodies into the ocean. Most people would not go willingly, so maybe knockout gas would be employed. ( know it sounds absurd because of all the prep needed, but so was the idea of crashing planes into buildings until recently.)
This true, but short of us developing an intelligence on the order of the fictional SkyNet, I don’t see a workaround for having to trust human beings in the cockpit.
I don’t mean to say that we don’t have rudimentary AI that could probably completely handle a plane in just about any condition, but the truth is, we are going to have human pilots for the foreseeable future, until the machine pilots can B.S. with passengers & flirt with flight attendants.
Humans like humans being in control, because we can understand and interact with them, even if the humans may be more fallible or less trustworthy! I think this boils down, at its base, to the fact that most believe the human pilot wants to live as badly as they do, and they don’t understand programming concepts or how the machine does or doesn’t perceive the human condition.
U.S. investigators continue to scrutinize the most recent known sighting of Elvis.
U.S. investigators are close to identifying the remote plot of Jimmy Hoffa.
U.S. investigators - are undisclosed idiots?
It’s not “U.S.” investigators, it’s “us” investigators! D’UH!
I guess crazy people are more or less screened out, but bad pilots happen (Egyptian Airlines). Not sure anything can be done to loony-proof the craft.
This: I think this boils down, at its base, to the fact that most believe the human pilot wants to live as badly as they do...
That went out the window with the Egyptian Airlines crash a few years back caused by a Jihadi. That trust is broken, and a lot of people won't fly again until Islam is stricken from the planet.
I said it was my guess. But like I said, if you don’t contact the NTSB with your first-hand information you are committing a crime.
Geeze, take a chill pill.
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