New Theory Sees Possible Fire on Missing Jet

TIME Mag Online ^ | 03-19-2014 5:35 AM ET | Per Liljas

[Law is not justice but process]

“The Final Countdown!” Loved that movie, despite the presence of Martin Sheen. . .

[DJ Taylor]

Flying out of a Third World country on a Third World airline in an airplane maintained by Third World technicians and flown by Muslim pilots with radical associates, what could possibly go wrong?

[Uncle Chip]

Actually NO —

It was entered to go into effect when the aircraft reached a certain aeronautical point which was in this case when Malaysian ATC handed them over to Vietnam ATC.

[TalBlack]

I think Boeing (and the US Gov’t) knows where the plane is and are trying to figure out what to do about it.

[GreyFriar]

The Final Countdown.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/

A modern aircraft carrier is thrown back in time to 1941 near Hawaii, just hours before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

Stars: Kirk Douglas, Martin Sheen, Katharine Ross |

[CivilWarBrewing]

I believe this is the B777 Avionics E&E compartment:

Exerpted comment from http://www.historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=18257&start=0:

"Salaam to all, Good pics, thanks for sharing, but a great picture (last one) showing the 777 MEC (e/e bay) this is near door one left, a hatch, you go down and its the compartment where most of the aircraft electrical/electronics is stored, the circuit breakers, as you can see clearly on the white panels ahead and on right side. We, engineers , often go down there to reset systems when a fault shows in the flight deck. Great picture, hope many appreciate the hidden parts of an aircraft."

Some of these inquiries at that thread should be investigated, IMO. Sounds like terrorist intelligence gathering to me, like this one:

"Does anyone know if this area can be accessed inflight? (i.e is it part of the pressurised area of the aircraft).

And also if any situation can potentially arise inflight where this area would need to be accessed?"

[miserare]

Cover-up! Cover-up! Cover-up!

[CivilWarBrewing]

When will decision be made? Hopefully, not as ‘quickly’ as the XL Keystone pipeline or Benghazi.

[miserare]

What an awful bikini on that scrawny girl!

[Foxnard]

My theory also relates to the following article:
http://www.ibtimes.com/malaysia-airlines-flight-spotted-maldives-examining-latest-theory-mh370-1562221
1. Catastrophic event (shortly after 1:19) results: Pilot programs route to nearest airport (WSW direction, lowered altitude); either failure of communications systems or pilots cannot communicate due to environmental or equipment degradation; transponder and ACARS (reports every 30 minutes) fail.
2. Pilots lose consciousness, nearest airport is passed, autopilot maintains direction and low altitude / low speed. (These first 2 points agree directly with this posting.)
3. 6:15 AM Maldive-time (9:15 AM Malaysian time) MH370 passes low and slow over Kuda Huvadhoo in the Maldives. It has been flying about 8 hours. My opinion is that the articles only quote one person, and I would question that account’s accuracy for the plane’s flight direction. He said North to South-East direction, but I would hold to a West-Southwest direction – the same as it flew from Malaysia. The unexpectedly ‘late’ time of passing this position, I would say is due to its low altitude and slow speed over the entire distance after passing the pilot’s desired airport. The Maldives discount the report, but other than not seeing it on radar (it was too low), I didn’t see a reason. Multiple people were said to have seen the airplane.
4. I would suggest a search of the ocean in that same WSW direction from Kuda Havadhoo.
5. I believe that after this long of a search, that their current theories are institutionalized, and this simple logical theory doesn’t fit their current assumptions and working rules.

[Foxnard]

You have incomplete information. The last report from the ACARS system was less than 30 minutes before the normal voice sign off. The ACARS system reports once every 30 minutes. Therefore, the ACARS system was operational (unless proven otherwise) when the normal voice sign off was given. 30 minutes after the last report from the ACARS system was after the transponder quit, and after the normal voice sign off.

[Foxnard]

Light a match. Watch it for 7 hours. Huh? It stopped burning in less than 7 hours. How could that happen? It ran out of fuel. Fires burn until the fuel is spent, be it oxygen or wood, or plastic wiring.

[Foxnard]

My theory also relates to the following article:
http://www.ibtimes.com/malaysia-airlines-flight-spotted-maldives-examining-latest-theory-mh370-1562221
1. Catastrophic event (shortly after 1:19 – “time.com article: “fire could have melted electronic wire bundles, causing cyanide gas to be pumped through the cockpit and cabin, rendering everyone unconscious (oxygen masks don’t help since cyanide gas can be absorbed through the skin)”). Results: Pilot programs route to nearest airport (WSW direction, lowered altitude); either failure of communications systems or pilots cannot communicate due to environmental or equipment degradation; transponder and ACARS (reports every 30 minutes) fail.
2. Pilots lose consciousness, nearest airport is passed, autopilot maintains direction and low altitude / low speed.
3. 6:15 AM Maldive-time (9:15 AM Malaysian time) MH370 passes low and slow over Kuda Huvadhoo in the Maldives. It has been flying about 8 hours. My opinion is that the articles only quote one person, and I would question that account’s accuracy for the plane’s flight direction. He said North to South-East direction, but I would hold to a West-Southwest direction – the same as it flew from Malaysia. The unexpectedly ‘late’ time of passing this position, I would say is due to its low altitude and slow speed over the entire distance after passing the pilot’s desired airport. The Maldives discount the report, but other than not seeing it on radar (it was too low), I didn’t see a reason. Multiple people were said to have seen the airplane.
4. I would suggest a search of the ocean in that same WSW direction from Kuda Havadhoo.
5. I believe that after this long of a search, that their current theories are institutionalized, and this simple logical theory doesn’t fit their current assumptions and working rules.

[Foxnard]

My theory also relates to the following article:
http://www.ibtimes.com/malaysia-airlines-flight-spotted-maldives-examining-latest-theory-mh370-1562221
1. Catastrophic event (shortly after 1:19). Results: Pilot programs route to nearest airport (WSW direction, lowered altitude); either failure of communications systems or pilots cannot communicate due to environmental or equipment degradation; transponder and ACARS (reports every 30 minutes) fail.
2. Pilots lose consciousness, nearest airport is passed, autopilot maintains direction and low altitude / low speed.
3. 6:15 AM Maldive-time (9:15 AM Malaysian time) MH370 passes low and slow over Kuda Huvadhoo in the Maldives. It has been flying about 8 hours. My opinion is that the articles only quote one person, and I would question that account’s accuracy for the plane’s flight direction. He said North to South-East direction, but I would hold to a West-Southwest direction – the same as it flew from Malaysia. The unexpectedly ‘late’ time of passing this position, I would say is due to its low altitude and slow speed over the entire distance after passing the pilot’s desired airport. The Maldives discount the report, but other than not seeing it on radar (it was too low), I didn’t see a reason. Multiple people were said to have seen the airplane.
4. I would suggest a search of the ocean in that same WSW direction from Kuda Havadhoo.
5. I believe that after this long of a search, that their current theories are institutionalized, and this simple logical theory doesn’t fit their current assumptions and working rules.

[RaceBannon]

I am well aware what a circuit breaker looks like
One of my last job interviews was as a project engineer on Airbus aircraft doing seat replacements and rewiring of the entertainment systems

I got a good look inside the thing :)

The newer avionics packages are nothing like previous aircraft due to the amount of computer power needed and controllers

once you start switching breakers to isolate a burning fuse, it will be a time consuming effort considering they can just walk down a ladder and look inside a room the size of a small shed to see if there is a source of heat or flame or smoke

These are not your daddy’s DC-8’s ya know...

By the way, I grew up near an airport, worked at an airplane museum for years, was an air controller in the Corps, also worked avionics OJT for 2 years while deployed and worked 11 years on SH-2 helicopters and loaded freight part time for Emery and UPS...everything about my life for years surrounded aviation, my friends and our conversations and our incomes

[RaceBannon]

a friend of mine, well experienced pilot flying heavies and other aircraft, told me that is would have taken a very smart and determined person to singularly shut down the two systems mentioned most here

their power source is most likely a joint power source to other stuff, not just themselves, there would be a central buss, but that buss would not break down to a separate power line to each individual component, if you start pulling breakers, you shut down more than 2 controls at a time

[zot]

Thanks for the time vortex theory.

[arthurus]

I still think it is known where the plane went. There will be nothing said until a rescue or punishment operation is mounted. If it crashed, I think we know that too, but if a crash was due to Islam then I think that it is preferred for it to remain an unexplained mystery. We mustn’t make ROPers think we understand them. And for some nuts and bolts about the practice of Islam in the modern day see www.shoebat.com.

[arthurus]

I don’t trust any info from Malaysia. They act as if they have some covering up to do.

[upcountryhorseman]

There was no fire: there was no “Mayday”. It either landed
in Pakistan or it went into the ocean!