And utterly destroyed an entire country - which is now in the grip of a bunch of fanatic islamist warlords fighting over the carcass
Posted on 03/20/2014 3:34:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
One thing is certain, Putin has Crimea and we have speeches.
I think these comparisons to Hitler are disingenuous at best and outright propaganda by the US/EU. Putin is not looking to shove millions of people into a furnace nor is he doing much more the a little flexing of Russian muscle along his border (which given Russia’s history they have good reason to worry about).
If you really want to look at who’s been the stirring up trouble then look no further than the US as far as stirring up wars and international discord. The Arab spring, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, etc. Our motives have not and never will be “pure” in any international conflict other than “purely for the US self interest” (or in the case of Iraq a Bush grudge match). Which is the same as any other country, people may like to think that we are different but based on the evidence we are not.
Given all that it’s about time the EU realized that the US will not always be aligned with their interests and start building up their own military, otherwise they are in for a very disappointing lesson in international relations.
Crimera has been part of Russia longer than Texas has been part of the United States. Kruschev, a Ukraneian, gave it back to Ukraine in the 50’s
Sorry, what part of Crimea is Kherson? Putin has Russian soldiers there now laying land mines.
What other countries besides Ukraine is this tin pot czar free to invade? We need a scorecard, FRiend.
“Putin invaded his neighbor with his sissy boy army wearing masks and no insignia. That is not strength. That is faggotry.”
Crimea voted. You first suggest that the vote was strong armed by Putin’s forces, then you refer to his forces as a sissy boy army.
Sounds like you are arguing with your self...
Putin...saw a pattern of words without consequences, of actions that are ephemeral and not sustained, and so he concluded that a weaker power like Russia most certainly can bully a neighbor with access to stronger powers like the United States.
This is what I said from the beginning....when there is a power vacuum, something will fill that space. It won't just remain empty.
Team Obama announced troop reductions to below WWII levels, Putin's already-green light grew even greener.
I further think this weakness in American policy is even PART of the promised "flexibility" that was whispered to Medvedev.
But it isn't just Russian relations....BO is on a mission to weaken our nation's status in the world from EVERY angle. Why else would he engineer and increase in our debt burden two or three fold? Why else would he engineer a demoralization and perversion in our military? Why else would he foist upon the American people a socialized, unpopular and unworkable healthcare law?
He wants all this to happen because he hates America.
Three things are the enemy of the left:
(true, classical) Christianity,
(original intent interpretation of) the Constitution, and
(free market) Capitalism.
If only Washington had been nicer to the Russians after the fall of the Berlin Wall. If only the west had not humiliated Moscow after the break-up of the Soviet Union. Surely we can see now what a provocation it was to allow the former vassal states of the Soviet empire to exercise their democratic choice to join the community of nations? And what of permitting them to shelter under Nato’s security umbrella and to seek prosperity for their peoples in the European Union? Nothing, surely, could have been more calculated to squander the post-cold-war peace.Oops, sorry . . . that article was about the 2008 Russian invasion of Georgia.
And utterly destroyed an entire country - which is now in the grip of a bunch of fanatic islamist warlords fighting over the carcass
the outcome of the Crimean vote—93 percent in favor of joining Russia—was as predictable as it is illegitimate. According to Vorobiov, even though there are not as many Russian supporters in Crimea as has been reported by the Russian media, the local Crimean population has no access to news sources other than broadcasts coming out of Russia. All Ukrainian and foreign media have been shut down.The outcome, noted Fedets, “was already decided.” There were only two questions on the ballot: (1) “Do you want to be part of Russia?” and (2) “Do you want to be independent?” The ballot did not offer the option of remaining a part of Ukraine.
“the local Crimean population has no access to news sources other than broadcasts coming out of Russia.”
So... Is our vote here as predictable as it is illegitimate too because the liberal side’s control of the media?
In Crimean as well as here, people get the government they deserve...
It's also a matter of what circumstances we've gotten ourselves into as a nation. Prolonged recession, multiple long-term military interventions with little to show for it (after we mismanaged things during the Obama Presidency), political polarization at home, and a progressive decrease in respect abroad. It's hard to play hard ball when you have those things in the background.
Where do you get your news?
There were no mixed signals. The whole world knows that Obama is a bed-wetting wimp who will do nothing in the face of aggression other than hide under the sheets!
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And since there seems to be little to no international outrage about Crimea being annexed by Russia, we should do that with the northerly 5 miles of Mexico and use it as a booby-trapped DMZ with multiple layers of walls and concertina wire. All the Rio Grande river will be ours and no foreign nation can say “boo” about it if they didn’t also speak up about the Crimean situation. And if they do pipe up, we cut off whatever foreign aid we might be sending them.
oops, nevermind, i see .. lol
Power in the hands of cowards and traitors means nothing.
In the case of Obama, we have a twofer.
He is not working in the interests of the US.
Time people realize that and understand how much worse it could be in 3 years.
He is not, and will not, work in the interest of Americans. Face it.
“Where do you get your news?”
I’m a news junkie... So your question is irrelevant (I’ve been a member here since 1998). A large majority get it from the MSM, and it’s all slanted.
Right. (I knew *you* would know. I was wondering about that other guy making all the big impeachment talk.) Now, how many Rats would vote to convict, even if there is a video tape of Obastard strangling a small child to death? One? Two? Maybe even three! We would need about 16, assuming we get rid of Lindsy Graham and John McCain.
“Crimera has been part of Russia longer than Texas has been part of the United States. Kruschev, a Ukraneian, gave it back to Ukraine in the 50’s”
You are a fount of disinformation.
(1) Crimea, not “Crimera”
(2) The Crimea has been a part of the Ottoman Empire/Turkey longer than the existence of the Russian Empire. So, by your reasoning possession of the Crimea, a Tatar name by the way, should revert to Turkey under the still operative treaty the Ottoman Empire the right to reclaim the Crimea from Russia under the current circumstances.
(3) Kruschev was a Russian and not a Ukrainian. It was Kruschev’s wife who was a Ukrainian.
(4) Kruschev did not “give” the Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR, but he did transfer the Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR for a variety of reasons, including the exchange of the Crimea in part as reparations for the millions of Ukrainians murdered by the Russians and the theft and despoiling of Ukrainian properties and rights under Communist law.
We have an affirmative action type Hitler in the White Hut. Hitler didn’t or wouldn’t have needed a teleprompter as he could recite a half hour speech practically from memory (a gift he shared with Lenin).
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