Posted on 03/23/2014 1:06:32 PM PDT by txgirl4Bush
“LIGNET put out a report, substantiated yesterday, that there sources got their information from Boeing sources, which is covert. Not that they got their information from the Boeing Company because they’re involved in the investigation, that the airplane was in Pakistan. That was confirmed by LIGNET on Monday and I got another source at LIGNET that confirmed it yesterday… I do believe that those people in Pakistan, in the ISI, those people who knew where Osama Bin Laden was and didn’t tell us. I believe those same elements could be involved with getting that airplane into a Pakistan air force base.”
Your thought police attitude is well known.
If you’ve disdain for any thread, you are free to ignore it.
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“surely the aircraft would have been detected...assuming it flew over the Indian Ocean”
A question for those with knowledge of commercial aviation, but what prevents a pilot from punching a different code into the transponder that would change the planes identity and thus disguise itself as a different flight?
>> “Why steal a Boeing 777 when anyone with the resources to steal it could go out and buy one without attracting all this attention?” <<
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Would that unit come equipped with passengers the happen to be the world’s foremost experts on digital warfare like this one is?
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What happened to the passengers?
You have a point except that I doubt that Israel believes the General. They’re not that gullible.
True, but this notion has been on the hot back burner since the last time they had to swat flies.
It’s well known that Alberta’s children travel by the short bus.
It always perks my ears up when the thought police jump on a thread.
You’ve got it backwards.
The general is believing Israel this time.
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Suppose there was a Chinese version of Snowden on that airplane who had on disk everything involving their work...all of the code, all of the manufacturing process....
And this was planned long enough ahead to make the arrangements needed to get the information to Iran via Pak?
That would make it worth the money and effort and explain why renting a beater 747 was not an option.
>> “Then why not steal a 747 cargo plane? Wouldn’t that be a whole lot easier?” <<
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Sans useful personnel. You miss the whole purpose.
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Far better than radar, that particular part of the world is the most heavily covered by photo surveillance satellites.
You can bet that every bit of this caper was picked up. (and fully analysed within 24 hours)
A much more expensive, but permanent, technology for acoustic exploration is the installation of a hydrophone array connected to an underwater communications cable. Since the 1960s, the U.S. Navy has operated such a SOund SUrveillance System (SOSUS) for military applications in many areas of the world ocean. With the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 and the end of the Cold War, the U.S. Navy offered the civilian scientific community “dual use” of SOSUS to evaluate its value in ocean environmental monitoring. Since 1991, NOAA has successfully used these arrays to detect submarine volcanic eruptions in the northeast Pacific and blue whale movements in the same area. The range of the system is such that volcanic tremors from south of Japan have been successfully detected and located using SOSUS arrays deployed off the coasts of Oregon and Washington. Access to SOSUS is restricted, both in the sense that the data are classified and can only be used in a secure facility, and also by the fact that the arrays are deployed only in areas of military need. The cabled nature of SOSUS allows real-time acquisition of the acoustic data, but at a high cost; the total investment in SOSUS is estimated at more than $16 billion.
Sonobuoys come in a variety of configurations. Above are examples of three deployed sonobuoys with floats at the surface and the ceramic hydrophone portions hanging in the water column.
This map shows the location of the submarine cable off the central California coast that is being used for the Sound in the Sea Project. This cable stretches from Pillar Point Air Force Station to an underwater seamount (Pioneer Seamount) and is approximately 100 km long. A passive underwater hydrophone will be installed on the seaward end of the cable. Data on recorded sounds will be sent along the cable to a station on land for processing, then made available over the Internet. Click image for larger view.
In the mid-1990s, NOAA developed portable hydrophones that can be deployed anywhere in the world ocean. This device consists of a single ceramic hydrophone attached to a water-proof “pressure case” that contains all of the batteries, computers, clocks, and other electronics required to maintain the hydrophone for several years. They have been used successfully in marine mammal studies and seismic studies, and have even been used to detect landslides on the south shore of Hawaii from a range of more than 5,000 km. These instruments have the advantage of portability; that is, they can be deployed anywhere in the world ocean, but cannot currently provide the data in real time; one must wait until a ship revisits the deployment site and recovers the instrument. Another advantage is that these instruments are relatively inexpensive compared to a cabled system such as SOSUS.
http://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/explorations/sound01/background/technology/technology.html
Would these pick up a jet crashing into the ocean?
Certain of the passengers were the objective; not the plane.
But I’m sure that the plane won’t go unused.
Quite a collection you have there.
“Your thought police attitude is well known.”
Easily the silliest accusation I’ve ever received on Free Republic. I’ve posted to this website just a few times in the last five or six years. Nothing about me could possibly be “well known” here.
I should have remembered that long ago I learned better than to engage in these useless flame wars. The level of debate, not just on Free Republic, but on myriad places around the web where anonymous persons expose a bottomless supply of ignorance, is consistently weak and uninteresting.
I agree. The General may have sources but this thread has no legitimacy.
This isn’t a flame war.
It is simply an objection to your attempt to stifle discussion of an important event.
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Then leave the thread!
Simple, huh?
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>> “Would these pick up a jet crashing into the ocean?” <<
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Without a doubt, if it crashed within its range.
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