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Lt. Gen. McInerney Says MH370 Is In Pakistan – ‘I Got A Source That Confirmed It Yesterday’ (Video)
Counterjihadreport.com ^ | March 22, 2014 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/23/2014 1:06:32 PM PDT by txgirl4Bush

“LIGNET put out a report, substantiated yesterday, that there sources got their information from Boeing sources, which is covert. Not that they got their information from the Boeing Company because they’re involved in the investigation, that the airplane was in Pakistan. That was confirmed by LIGNET on Monday and I got another source at LIGNET that confirmed it yesterday… I do believe that those people in Pakistan, in the ISI, those people who knew where Osama Bin Laden was and didn’t tell us. I believe those same elements could be involved with getting that airplane into a Pakistan air force base.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boeing; iran; lignet; malaysia; mcinerney; mh370; pakistan; planehijack; postit9moretimes; thomasmcinerney; waronterror; wot
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To: Slyfox

I have a few questions for you....

1) what happened to the passengers?
a) they’re dead
b) they’re hostages/future slaves?

2) do you think that hijacking such a plane, filled with Chinese Nationals is an Act of War?

3) do you think the Chinese are going to let such an act perpetrated against its citizens go unpunished if found?


51 posted on 03/23/2014 2:01:23 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: beckett

Yes, post 6 should be removed.

FR has always been for discussion, not Babylonian censorship.
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52 posted on 03/23/2014 2:07:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: fso301

Could the Iranians be interested in whatever cargo the plane was carrying? I thought Iran, via Pakistan, as well.


53 posted on 03/23/2014 2:11:35 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: txgirl4Bush
Some radio host pointed out the biggest flaw in this scenario the other day:

Why steal a Boeing 777 when anyone with the resources to steal it could go out and buy one without attracting all this attention?

54 posted on 03/23/2014 2:14:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Boeing 777 wait list is three years foe a new one from Boeing


55 posted on 03/23/2014 2:16:30 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Alberta's Child
Why steal a Boeing 777 when

Why steal a Boeing 777? What are you gonna do, start your own airline with one stolen Boeing 777?!

56 posted on 03/23/2014 2:16:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Alberta's Child
The cheapest used 777 runs $30mil+

This op definitely cost a tiny fraction of that.

57 posted on 03/23/2014 2:18:21 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: dennisw

These things have been in service since 1995. You can buy one secondhand if you’re in the market for it.


58 posted on 03/23/2014 2:20:05 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Yorlik803

Are you sure you want another thing to mow around?


59 posted on 03/23/2014 2:20:16 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: varyouga
Let's see ...

$30M for a used Boeing 777 that can be purchased and put in service without attracting much attention at all ...

OR

... several dozen hours of preparation for a hijacked Boeing 777 with about a 0.001% chance of success for whatever the ultimate mission is.

I'm still not sure I see what the "mission" is supposed to be, if this is how someone decided to go about carrying it out.

60 posted on 03/23/2014 2:23:18 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: JudyinCanada
Could the Iranians be interested in whatever cargo the plane was carrying?

I doubt it. How do the Pakis and/orIranians benefit from hiding a 777 full of Chinese nationals?

61 posted on 03/23/2014 2:25:12 PM PDT by fso301
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To: SkyPilot
"This isn't some comic book character."

I have tremendous respect for McInerney. Career combat aviators like him are the most sober-minded, serious and realistic people I know.

Frankly, and for all our sakes, I hope he's nuts.

If what he claims turns out to be true, then we're in a world of trouble.

62 posted on 03/23/2014 2:27:18 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: varyouga
This op definitely cost a tiny fraction of that.

Then why not steal a 747 cargo plane? Wouldn't that be a whole lot easier?

63 posted on 03/23/2014 2:27:30 PM PDT by fso301
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To: txgirl4Bush

bookmark


64 posted on 03/23/2014 2:29:49 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Jack Hydrazine

you named it. No one wants to make the connection.


65 posted on 03/23/2014 2:32:30 PM PDT by affan76
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To: Revolting cat!

The world is looking for the plane in the Indian Ocean, and will be for the next few days so.

Meanwhile, world leaders will be meeting in The Hague.

The plane if in Pakistan could be readied for a terrorist attack on such a target of opportunity.

If the passengers are still alive, they could be used as pawns, to delay stopping, or intercepting, such a flight.

This plane must be located quickly.

The general has also said that Boeing sources know the plane is in Pakistan. They would only know that if the plane comms were turned on for landing assistance, and the planes sent out the wheels down message.

Also he has said there are communications that occurred between the plane and the ground, and that we have them.

The general has been very steady in his assertions and the only one to do so. The Israelis are taking no chances. And it is clear, with the steady drip of misinformation, there is more that is known by multiple governments that we are not being told.


66 posted on 03/23/2014 2:32:36 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Damn....how many of these things are they missing?


67 posted on 03/23/2014 2:34:33 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Slyfox

It is probably being repainted in El Al logos now.


68 posted on 03/23/2014 2:35:13 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Sacajaweau

Along with Pakistan being anything but an ally, trying to cozy up with them puts us on the wrong side with India, which we should be cultivating as a close ally.


69 posted on 03/23/2014 2:38:23 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: exit82

For those who have not watched the clips these are from Wed and Thursday. I have said on several threads that I believe the General is speaking for all of the good people at DOD and CIA that are frustrated with the political appointees who won’t make the hard decisions. There is a chance he is being used but I trust he has verified this information, this is not his first rodeo. Time will tell.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3363882454001/gen-mcinerney-us-hasnt-come-clean-with-flight-370-data/#sp=show-clips

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3369369077001/does-gen-mcinerney-stand-by-controversial-pakistan-theory/#sp=show-clips


70 posted on 03/23/2014 2:41:28 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: bigbob

You have Boeing confused with the CIA and so does the General.

Boeing sources put its plane in the waters off Australia.

The navies of 14 nations believe those Boeing sources enough to commit resources down there looking for it.

I’ll go with their Boeing sources.


71 posted on 03/23/2014 2:44:14 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: txgirl4Bush
A hijacked 777 being hidden in Pakistan has SPECTRE written all over it and there is only one man for the job.


72 posted on 03/23/2014 2:45:11 PM PDT by fso301
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To: txgirl4Bush

from what I know....all major naval warships, have aircraft detection radar, for defense, rather than air traffic control...be the ships US, China, or Russian, surely the aircraft would have been detected...assuming it flew over the Indian Ocean


73 posted on 03/23/2014 2:45:25 PM PDT by B212
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To: Alberta's Child
Why steal a Boeing 777 when anyone with the resources to steal it could go out and buy one without attracting all this attention?

Exactly -- or lease an old one like this one.

74 posted on 03/23/2014 2:49:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: B212

A good idea, but it poses a couple of questions:

What military ships were in the Indian Ocean?

How does the military determine whether an aircraft is civilian or enemy military?

I will admit that they should be suspicious of any high speed target not displaying a transponder code, but unless the aircraft is on a course directly toward the ship, I doubt they pay any attention to it.

Do all navies of the world record video of all radar traffic?


75 posted on 03/23/2014 2:54:42 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Doc Savage

“Think! If they hijacked it to Pakistan what has happened to the 239 passengers for the last 17 days? Did they murder them? Holding them for ransom?”

Ok, I accept your offer. I’m thinking. If this plane was indeed high jacked, then we are talking about people with the same mind-set as the 9/11 high jackers. So, how hard would it be for these terrorists to kill the passengers if they have no further use for them? I submit, not hard at all. Concerning the current search area; there is no hard data supporting this endeavor. The logic is based upon the premise that had the plane taken a more north westerly route it would have been picked up on “somebody’s” radar. That’s pretty subjective if you ask me. But, being subjective, I would hazard a guess that prior to flt 370 going missing a..... Well, at night a un identified Boeing 777 could easily fly across the region without causing a stir, probably happens often enough that it doesn’t cause any concern. Would any of these countries step up and acknowledge that such a breakdown in their national security had occurred? Are you kidding me? No way! Btw, the current flurry of sightings down in the Southern Indian Ocean will turn to nothing. And, then hopefully other possibilities will be (publically) considered - that include the possibility that the plane landed successfully. Your turn, think about it :)


76 posted on 03/23/2014 2:55:43 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: editor-surveyor; txgirl4Bush; old curmudgeon

You had to go all the way back to Babylon to find a censorious regime?

a) LIGNET is a small group of rightwing careerists from the intelligence community looking to make a splash. Like anybody in the diplomatic or intelligence community, their life’s work has been all about double crosses and triple crosses, subterfuge and working the system in service to an agenda. The intelligence product itself is often secondary. On the website, LIGNET analysts use cagey terminology that’s purely speculative. They never say they themselves believe the plane is in Pakistan.

b) The post on top of the thread is not from LIGNET, but from a far less reliable site called “counterjihadreport.” The author is demonstrably incapable of correct grammar and spelling. That’s merely an irritant, not a major sin. What is a major sin, however, is the author’s claim that LIGNET “substantiated” and “confirmed” that the plane is in Pakistan, but no evidence of the substantiation or confirmation is provided. The claims are strictly amateur hour.

The post is pabulum for children. If, Mr Editor-Surveyor, you believe that pabulum should have full rights of discussion on Free Republic, then, by all means, have at it. And enjoy your second childhood.


77 posted on 03/23/2014 2:55:57 PM PDT by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I believe the intention was to reload the 200 passengers along with heavy explosives and fly it at Isreal, putting them in a position of shooting down a loaded plane full of people


78 posted on 03/23/2014 2:57:40 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (Im missing a jumbo jet with 235 passengers has anyone seen it?)
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To: SkyPilot

“This isn’t some comic book character.”

He is now.


79 posted on 03/23/2014 2:58:18 PM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: Uncle Chip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnqNT-Hw07A

I hope I did this correctly. It is a 45 minute documentary of Helios Flight 522.

It answers the question of what happened to the passengers at 45K. They were out of oxygen, but still technically alive. When this plane crashed all of these passengers were alive, but not functioning.

The General’s insistence that the plane is in Pak hands only fuels Israel to attack the nuc facilities. That may be what bambi wants.

Then he can step in and play the peacemaker. Remember, the Antichrist comes as a peacemaker.

80 posted on 03/23/2014 2:59:01 PM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent: for the coming of the Lord is soon.)
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To: crosslink

I watched the two clips (and that’s all I have seen.)

1. The general won’t say he has sources, his interviewers say it.

2. The general speculates solely on the basis of a couple of known facts about communications from the jet, and his calculation (on a dreaded and much hated here iPhone) of distances between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing or Lahore.

3. Somebody’s hearing what hasn’t been said.


81 posted on 03/23/2014 3:01:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Pakistan was a messy necessity for the war in Afghanistan.


82 posted on 03/23/2014 3:03:49 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

And was the war in Afghanistan any kind of necessity—as more and more comes out about how Bush hid the clear Saudi guilt in 9/11?


83 posted on 03/23/2014 3:08:34 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: snoringbear

The General claims he has a Boeing source who put the plane in Pakistan NOT because they have seen it there, NOT because their technical prowess traced it there, NOT because some source saw it there, not for any other reason than because Pakistan is corrupt and has terrorists there.

He is admitting that he has no evidence for what he is claiming — and yet continues to claim it.


84 posted on 03/23/2014 3:08:50 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: beckett

“counterjihadreport” is using the video that was a part of the following link that was
posted yesterday on FR. I don’t have my speakers hooked up so I can’t listen to the video so
I don’t know the info being attributed is accurately reported or not.

Video youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPl60cQUz9I

Thread from yesterday:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136186/posts


85 posted on 03/23/2014 3:09:49 PM PDT by deport
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To: Revolting cat!

I just read all your posts over the last few months, You do know your music and I will defer to you on that subject.

On this subject I will trust my instincts and the General and respectfully disagree with you.


86 posted on 03/23/2014 3:10:35 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
If you're talking 8 perps, not necessarily Chinese, you can't blame a whole nation.

Well no one else tracked it so why would we expect them to track it.

Now my silly question is...if they turned off the transponder, why was no one notified immediately so that satellites or a few of them little jets could triangulate the plane.

Someone is lying their a** off.

87 posted on 03/23/2014 3:11:03 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Battle Axe
The General’s insistence that the plane is in Pak hands only fuels Israel to attack the nuc facilities.

You have a point except that I doubt that Israel believes the General. They're not that gullible.

88 posted on 03/23/2014 3:12:47 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: crosslink

Thank you. As I said, those two clips were everything that I had seen of the general, and I stand by my observations of what was and wasn’t said in them and by whom.


89 posted on 03/23/2014 3:13:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Your welcome

Here is the clip from Friday.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3374590856001/closer-look-at-gen-mcinerneys-missing-plane-theory/#sp=show-clips


90 posted on 03/23/2014 3:18:01 PM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Uncle Chip
Re: 74
Exactly -- or lease an old one like this one.

Because they'd lose their deposit if it wasn't returned in good shape.
Although I wrote this tongue in cheek - it is probably contains a kernel of truth.
If nothing else, these islamic terrorists are cheap (except regarding human life). Remember the first WTC truck bombers? They got caught while trying to reclaim their deposit on the truck they used for the bombing. It must be genetic. Cheap bastards probably only budgeted ten grand to get a plane.

91 posted on 03/23/2014 3:21:47 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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92 posted on 03/23/2014 3:25:37 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: LucyT; txgirl4Bush; Old Sarge; shibumi; OwenKellogg; easternsky; boxlunch; Michael Barnes; ...

I believe this is an Intel “smoke screen” for keeping Diego Garcia AFB out in foggy and “thin” air!

Should I chose between the Genral’s or Eric Rush’ story!!

I would certainly chose the latter!!!


93 posted on 03/23/2014 3:27:44 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: varyouga

Yeah, and if they put it on their Discover Card they get 1% cash back.


94 posted on 03/23/2014 3:29:51 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: crosslink

Wow! Thank you again. A good and credible story. 60-75%, as the general himself says.


95 posted on 03/23/2014 3:31:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Gen.Blather
China has been idiotic in taking them at face value. (Or, perhaps they think they can play with fire and not get burned.)

We took them at face value for a long time too... and yeah, good point - we got burned.

96 posted on 03/23/2014 3:31:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: fso301
Why would Iran be complicit in the hijacking of a plane full of citizens from it's main petroleum buyer and major supplier of military technology?

Three possibilities, in no particular order.

1) Plausible deniability: Iran funds the terrorists under the table.
2) Iran is gambling that its connections with Russia will be better in the long run than its connections with Malaysia.
3) Religion trumps economics: the Iranian regime is Shi'a, the Malaysians are Sunni, and Iran is betting that Saudi Arabia won't get involved because the Saudis can't be sure they would have US backing.

97 posted on 03/23/2014 3:37:34 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: snoringbear

I also concur. The search is now looking at a wooden pallet floating in the ocean when the 777 does not even use wooden pallets. Its a campaign of disinformation desiged to keep everyone in the dark until the powers that be can figure out what to do. They likely know exactly or fairly close to where that plane is parked.


98 posted on 03/23/2014 3:59:51 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: beckett; txgirl4Bush; old curmudgeon

Babylon is the current regime.


99 posted on 03/23/2014 4:02:04 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: old curmudgeon

I can almost guarantee that Naval ship’s aircraft radar is recorded...(western countries for sure)
The other thought was US ELINT aircraft patrolling along the Chinese borders...they suck up, and save everything for future reference....


100 posted on 03/23/2014 4:04:00 PM PDT by B212
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