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Last Man Standing Rancher: armed feds are surrounding my farm
Free Beacon ^ | 4/8/14 | Elizabeth Harrington

Posted on 04/08/2014 6:00:09 PM PDT by Nachum

A two-decades-old battle between a Nevada rancher and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has resulted in officials armed with machine guns surrounding the ranch and forcibly removing the owner’s cattle, according to the rancher’s family.

Cliven Bundy, the last rancher in Clark County, Nev., has been fighting a “one-man range war” since 1993, when he decided to take a stand against the agency, refusing to pay fees for the right to graze on a ranch run by his family for centuries.

After years of court battles, the BLM secured a federal court order to have Bundy’s “trespass cattle” forcibly removed with heavy artillery, the family said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyranch; clarkcounty; clivenbundy; harryreid; last; man; neilkornze; nevada; nevadarancher; rancher; standing
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Comrade, welcome to Soviet Amerika
1 posted on 04/08/2014 6:00:09 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 04/08/2014 6:00:30 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

I would like to be on the ping list.


3 posted on 04/08/2014 6:02:12 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: Nachum

Another Waco or Ruby Ridge?


4 posted on 04/08/2014 6:04:51 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Nachum
Carol Bundy said five officials took Dave and “threw him on the ground.”

“One put his knee on his head, the other put his boot on his head and pushed him into the gravel,” she said. “He’s got quite a bruised head. Just bruised him up pretty good.”

Let's just be glad the officers got home safely. /s

5 posted on 04/08/2014 6:05:29 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Nachum

Send a message over to Lincoln County — tell Billy the Kid he’s needed.


6 posted on 04/08/2014 6:05:53 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Travis McGee

Ping


7 posted on 04/08/2014 6:07:15 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Nachum

John Stossel had the Nevada Rancher on his last show.


8 posted on 04/08/2014 6:09:20 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: doc1019

not enough people ... they need more slaughter before they call in the press.


9 posted on 04/08/2014 6:09:50 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Nachum

I wonder how much of the national debt could be paid off if the federal government sold off maybe 90% of the vast land holdings it has.

I am not talking about military bases etc. just those huge parts of many states.


10 posted on 04/08/2014 6:11:50 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: doc1019

They seem to be amping up for it.


11 posted on 04/08/2014 6:12:22 PM PDT by Ray76 (Take over the GOP? You still beg! Forget them. Second Party Now.)
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To: Nachum

Jack booted thugs.


12 posted on 04/08/2014 6:18:06 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: Nachum

Apparently the Democrats learned nothing from Waco and Ruby Ridge.


13 posted on 04/08/2014 6:19:05 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Nachum
The government is out of control.

5.56mm

14 posted on 04/08/2014 6:20:37 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Nachum

plumbers, rodeo clowns, ranchers, neurosurgeons, 91-year-old arrowhead collectors….

When will your turn be…?


15 posted on 04/08/2014 6:22:22 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Nachum

I love how the government says it will cost them $3 mil to impound 800 head. Clearly, Mr. Bundy did not spend this on his yearly gathers. I do a little cowboy work and would do a heck of a lot morre if it all paid like that. Just goes to show how private biz can do things infinately more efficiently than the gov. No way will they recoup that on the sale of the cattle.

By the way, if you do the math on what Bundy says he owes and what the gov says he owes Budy’s math works, the gov’s numbers suggest he was grazing 3500 head a year, unless they are claiming fines, but such fines would be excessive.


16 posted on 04/08/2014 6:25:15 PM PDT by rey
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To: Nachum

” - - - has been fighting a “one-man range war” since 1993, when he decided to take a stand against the agency - - - “

Comrade B. Hussein Obama may be the first openly Communist to rule America, but this quote is evidence that Communism has been alive and well in America since at least 1993.


17 posted on 04/08/2014 6:25:17 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Nachum

Clear out some land so the bond debt to the chinese can be paid off if they get antsy. The chinese will want national parks and open grazing for the cattle on the farms they are buying with out money.


18 posted on 04/08/2014 6:27:06 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Nachum
Why, them's O-fishul rustlers son, you don't get to hang 'em....




yet.

19 posted on 04/08/2014 6:27:15 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Nachum
There was a time, not long ago, Nevada was famous for its quality beef.

Not anymore though, wonder why?

20 posted on 04/08/2014 6:32:24 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Nachum

They have provided a little fenced in area for the 1st Amendment protesters and the media...And it’s a long way from the ranch...Apparently they don’t want any cameras near the action...


21 posted on 04/08/2014 6:33:03 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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22 posted on 04/08/2014 6:34:46 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Nachum

It’s the focus of resources, in the midst of a human illegal alien invasion, that reveals the truth: the government is now the enemy of freedom-loving Americans.


23 posted on 04/08/2014 6:38:40 PM PDT by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can STILL go straight to hell.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

They learned something. They learned they have unlimited authority to kill you then claim they felt threatened. That was what ultimately came out in court. I did paper on RR in high school. Learned about it either in a magazine. It mag have been Playboy... Can’t remember but it changed me. So did the OKC bombing and the inconsistent coverage and info.

I hope this guy wins. Now we know why all the fed agencies carry weapons. Comply peasant or die!

So much for the pigs and their “just doing their job” mindset.


24 posted on 04/08/2014 6:41:23 PM PDT by drunknsage
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To: Nachum

From the article:

“And our sheriff says he just doesn’t have authority, our governor says he doesn’t have authority, and we’re saying, why are we a state?”

“I’m a producer,” Cliven Bundy said. “I produce edible commodity from the desert forage, and all of these things are governed under state law. So, in other words, this type of government has eliminated all of our state law, eliminated our state sovereignty, and has took control over our public lands and even took control over our Clark County sheriff. They’ve taken the whole county over. The whole state, almost.”

Good question in most places of this country - why are we a state? No more individual states, just Soviet Amerika.


25 posted on 04/08/2014 6:42:03 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Nachum

Bump


26 posted on 04/08/2014 6:42:28 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Nachum

I didn’t see in the article why he hasn’t paid the grazing fees...that he said himself runs to $300k?

Re the tortoise...what the heck? Coming from a spotted owl state...where logging was decimated...I do feel their pain w/ what appears to be an inane reason to close down the grazing.

But again I ask, why the heck didn’t he pay for the grazing in the first place?


27 posted on 04/08/2014 6:42:53 PM PDT by conservaKate (R got it wrong in 2012. We must get it right in 2014 & 2016.)
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To: Nachum

Ping-a-ling!


28 posted on 04/08/2014 6:44:20 PM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: Nachum

This is the type of thing that really interests me, especially when it involves legal claims to land. Does anyone know if Bundy has ever shown clear title to the land? Did his family every pay taxes on it or have the plats registered?


29 posted on 04/08/2014 6:49:29 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: yarddog
The legitimate purpose for the federal government holding so much of the West ceased to exist a hundred years ago.

I would judge that a one hundred year long (plus) family owned ranching concern has a legitimate claim to the right of use at the very least.

But going farther, it is long past time for the states to reclaim those lands and by force if necessary, and asemble state land commissions (preferrably elected by counties) to dispense with them according to their own laws and constitutions.

30 posted on 04/08/2014 6:51:09 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: Nachum

I’d love to see a confrontation between the Nevada NG and the feds...


31 posted on 04/08/2014 6:51:25 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

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32 posted on 04/08/2014 6:51:44 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Nachum

http://pienpolitics.com/


33 posted on 04/08/2014 6:52:24 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: x_plus_one

That’s right, anybody think they’re giving us money with no collateral?


34 posted on 04/08/2014 6:54:02 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: Nachum
U.N. Agenda 21 bares it's ugly teeth.
35 posted on 04/08/2014 6:54:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; a man who respects it has earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: conservaKate

“The trouble started when Bundy stopped paying grazing fees in 1993. He said he didn’t have to because his Mormon ancestors worked the land since the 1880s, giving him rights to the land.

“We own this land,” he said, not the feds. He said he is willing to pay grazing fees but only to Clark County, not BLM.

“Years ago, I used to have 52 neighboring ranchers,” he said. “I’m the last man standing. How come? Because BLM regulated these people off the land and out of business.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/07/feds-move-in-on-nevada-rancher-herd-over-illegal-grazing/


36 posted on 04/08/2014 6:56:09 PM PDT by cookiedough
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To: TADSLOS
Let's just be glad the officers got home safely. /s

I sure hope Edward Snowden doesn't release that comprehensive database of the names and home addresses of all agents of the U.S. feral government, or making it home safely might become the least of their worries.

37 posted on 04/08/2014 6:57:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; a man who respects it has earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Nachum

“I didn’t surrender, but they took my horse and made him surrender.”


38 posted on 04/08/2014 6:58:03 PM PDT by Redcitizen (When a zombie apocalypse starts, Chuck Norris doesn't try to survive. The zombies do.)
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To: conservaKate

A buttload of these tortises were ‘relocated’ to make room for a big solar project they were crowing about recently. As if cattle and turtles can’t get along in the first place!


39 posted on 04/08/2014 6:58:29 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: GAFreedom

I wonder the same thing. Either he owns the land or nor. If he doesn’t own the land he should be paying rent or have some sort of agreement. You can’t expect to run cattle on someone else’s land for free.


40 posted on 04/08/2014 7:00:28 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: GAFreedom

It’s public land.


41 posted on 04/08/2014 7:04:53 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Nachum
Sounds like another Waco or Ruby Ridge in the works..

I wonder what the BoweL Movement (BLM) would do if the Bundy family were BLACK?

42 posted on 04/08/2014 7:05:14 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Iscool

Same thing in 2006 or so on the Outer Banks of NC. NPS put up signs and limited where we could distribute flyers in protest to their seizing free and open beaches.....still fighting 8 years later.


43 posted on 04/08/2014 7:06:43 PM PDT by wxgesr (Nada, zilch, zed)
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To: dynoman
@dynoman:
I wonder the same thing. Either he owns the land or nor. If he doesn’t own the land he should be paying rent or have some sort of agreement. You can’t expect to run cattle on someone else’s land for free.
That's my thought. If it's public land, then he just has to pay the grazing fee and all is good. Why is he refusing to pay the grazing fees like every other rancher does?
44 posted on 04/08/2014 7:14:31 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: Nachum

In this case whether we like it or not it is Federal Land. At first I thought it was a grab of or new regulation on their family land but not so. The reasoning may be dumb but i don’t think this guy has a leg to stand on. Although I would rather see the claims for mining or oil exploration on Federal land changed so the government gets paid more than it does now.


45 posted on 04/08/2014 7:15:24 PM PDT by zorkon128
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To: Red Steel
"John Stossel had the Nevada Rancher on his last show."

I'm pretty sure there is more than one rancher in Nevada.

And Stossel probably had the one featured on the Fox "Enemy of the State" special last weekend. Not the same guy.

46 posted on 04/08/2014 7:20:20 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Iscool
WTF is a "first amendment area" and what fed agency has the power to designate such a thing?

How about a "second amendment area"? Is Gov. Sandoval not the commander of his National Guard?

47 posted on 04/08/2014 7:21:08 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (I will not comply.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Travis McGee
"I sure hope Edward Snowden doesn't release that comprehensive database of the names and home addresses of all agents of the U.S. feral government, or making it home safely might become the least of their worries."

Reminds me of a story I read....


48 posted on 04/08/2014 7:21:28 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: All
For those interested in the Sagebrush Rebellion, Gibson Guitar raids, Tea Party vs IRS and more, last weekend's Fox News special "Enemies of the State" is available on Youtube, possibly also on Fox.

Catherine Englebrecht is featured, and a Nevada rancher that is the guy every FReeper would be proud to be.

49 posted on 04/08/2014 7:30:34 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Apparently the Democrats learned nothing from Waco and Ruby Ridge.

Oh yes they did. At least with Waco, they learned they could get away with it.

50 posted on 04/08/2014 7:30:43 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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