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'Wake up America,' says family involved in BLM cattle dispute
KSL.com ^ | April 9,2014 | Faith Heaton Jolley and Dave Cawley

Posted on 04/09/2014 1:32:54 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Wake up America. Look what our ancestors fought for and we need to stand up for that. We need to realize what's happening. They are taking everything away from us. This isn't only about one family. This is about everyone's family. –Bailey Bundy Logue

The family members had parked on the side of Nevada state Route 170, but the highway was included in the temporary closure of public lands, according to BLM representative Kirsten Cannon. Dave Bundy was arrested and cited with a criminal charge of refusing to disperse and resisting officers. Cannon said all public lands are closed within the designated closure area during the removal of the trespassing cattle.

Logue said Dave Bundy was taking pictures and recording on his iPad when he was asked by federal employees what he was doing. Logue said that Dave Bundy told the BLM workers that he was "exercising (his) First Amendment rights."

"He did not resist arrest, but they continued to beat him," Logue told KSL. "They put him on the ground and were standing on his head and had a dozen officers on top of him and dogs."

The Bundy family was asked to leave the premises after Dave Bundy's arrest. Logue said that there were snipers and uniformed men on the scene during the cattle impoundment.

"That's scary," Logue said. "I was angry, but there was nothing I can do. We were so outnumbered. With nothing but weapons of our cameras, we did our best at taking pictures. But when you're in that situation your mind is not thinking very straight."

Dave Bundy was released Monday afternoon. However, the Bundy family said they feel that their First Amendment rights were violated and that they were entitled to meet on state Route 170 to take pictures.

(Excerpt) Read more at ksl.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy
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To: blueplum
...why do cows need sniper escorts?

Because Barack Hussein Ceaușescu needs to have his goons do something evil.

21 posted on 04/09/2014 2:45:10 PM PDT by NaturalBornC1t1zen (Democrat foreign policy = naive, stupid or treasonous.)
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To: GOPJ

The guy refuses to pay grazing fees to the federal government because he claims the BLM has no authority over the land...a view no court shares or has ever shared. If you don’t pay the rent and don’t pay the rent and don’t pay the rent...you eventually get evicted.

I have no sympathy for someone who grazes cattle on public land and refuses to pay for his grazing, just as I would have no sympathy for someone who did that on private land.


22 posted on 04/09/2014 2:49:38 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: dynoman; I want the USA back
It’s not their private property, they never owned it and quit paying rent. What do they expect?

Well, if someone were using your land for 25 years without your permission, the government would use "adverse possession" to give your land to them.

But I guess it's different when it's government land being used.

23 posted on 04/09/2014 2:50:34 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Mr Rogers

I was under the impression the land had been in his family for generations. I’ve been wrong before... might be this time...


24 posted on 04/09/2014 2:54:57 PM PDT by GOPJ (When fascism comes it will come..with promises of a better world.The jackboots come later..-Shapiro)
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To: agrarianlady
If the Feds would only treat illegal immigrants as aggressively as they treat this rancher, our illegal immigration problem would disappear. I don't know if the rancher is right but I do object to the tactics of the government.
25 posted on 04/09/2014 2:55:28 PM PDT by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: Age of Reason

“Well, if someone were using your land for 25 years without your permission, the government would use “adverse possession” to give your land to them.”

And that is something you would advocate as the right and honorable thing to do? I wouldn’t.

They need to fact the fact didn’t own the land and haven’t paid the rent since 1993.


26 posted on 04/09/2014 3:05:17 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: GOPJ

They didn’t ever own the land and stopped paying the rent in 1993.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/07/feds-move-in-on-nevada-rancher-herd-over-illegal-grazing/


27 posted on 04/09/2014 3:07:26 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: Regulator
Ah yes. We can call that being "Janetized".

Yes we can, or they were Renoized and vaporized. Now, I do not know exactly what the ins and outs of the issue are. All I am referring to, is the way the government deals with the people. The government would just as soon kill people as look at them.

28 posted on 04/09/2014 3:12:37 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Hojczyk

Obama needs to clear the land so he can give it back to Mexico.


29 posted on 04/09/2014 3:15:13 PM PDT by kaehurowing (FIGHT BULLYING, UNINSTALL FIREFOX)
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To: GOPJ

According to court documents, “As this court previously ruled in United States v. Bundy, Case No. CV-S-98-531-JBR (RJJ), 1998 U.S. Dist. (D. Nev. Nov. 4, 1998), “the public lands in Nevada are the property of the United States because the United States has held title to those public lands since 1848, when Mexico ceded the land to the United States.”


30 posted on 04/09/2014 3:16:32 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Hojczyk

The court case can be read here:

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/nv/field_offices/las_vegas_field_office/cattle_trespass.Par.0116.File.dat/Dkt%2035%20Order%20Granting%20MSJ%207-9-13.pdf


31 posted on 04/09/2014 3:18:55 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Age of Reason
Well, if someone were using your land for 25 years without your permission, the government would use "adverse possession" to give your land to them.

Not in Nevada.

Nevada is a 'color of title' state. To gain title to land by adverse possession, you must have a document purporting to convey title that has the appearance of good and valid title to property, but which actually conveys no title (a) because the grantor didn't hold title or (b) there is a defect in the conveyance document.

You can't obtain title simply by using another's land.

32 posted on 04/09/2014 4:37:40 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Regulator
Then the Enviros got involved and agitated for the fees to drive the ranchers off the land.

The grazing fees were instituted in 1934 under the Taylor Grazing Act. The enviro-nazis had nothing to do with the establishment of grazing fees.

33 posted on 04/09/2014 4:42:24 PM PDT by Scoutmaster (Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?)
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To: Scoutmaster

Sorry, but I had a front row seat to it in the 70s in Utah.

Unfortunately knew the people pushing increased fees on the enviro side, rather strongly disagree with them now. The intent was quite plainly to push ranchers off the land (evil cow murderers tearing up the land as it was put).

Think that was one of the points I began to walk backwards from that whole scene.

Won’t say much more then that.


34 posted on 04/09/2014 5:58:35 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator
So what. Someone should resist. Used to be free. Then the Enviros got involved and agitated for the fees to drive the ranchers off the land.
Wait a second. Environmentalists got involved and agitated for the fees...in 1934? That's how long grazing fees have been around.
35 posted on 04/09/2014 6:59:08 PM PDT by GAFreedom (Freedom rings in GA!)
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To: GAFreedom
see this
36 posted on 04/09/2014 9:33:24 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

> And when do the Feds shoot the wife?

They’re waiting until she picks up a baby, so they can get a two-fer shot.


37 posted on 04/10/2014 4:58:25 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Thanks... interesting.


38 posted on 04/10/2014 5:16:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (When fascism comes it will come..with promises of a better world.The jackboots come later..-Shapiro)
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To: GAFreedom; Scoutmaster

And just remembah JawJuh boyz...Hayduke Lives


39 posted on 04/10/2014 9:57:31 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Mr Rogers

Well good, do you own a home with a private well? You may not own that if EPA has their way with water rights they’re working on at this moment. If you have an abundance of water you may have to share that with your neighbor. Oh, and they may not have to pay you “rent”if it’s deemed public. You may have paid to have the well drilled, but no matter, you have more than you need.
The government is taking land in every state. Expanding the borders of parks and reserves is what happening with the “Land Trust Management” that has offices in every state. They promise you lower taxes and protected lands if you “donate” your land to the trust. This is put on your deed and cannot be changed. It’s for the birds and indigenous plants and animals. It’s mission creep. They take it slowly, one property at a time


40 posted on 04/10/2014 2:19:47 PM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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