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North Texas city awaits word on wastewater re-use
My SanAntonio.com ^ | 13-April-2014 | AP - By BETSY BLANEY

Posted on 04/14/2014 12:18:05 PM PDT by topher

UBBOCK, Texas (AP) — Wichita Falls is so far behind on rainfall that city leaders are asking state regulators for permission to use treated toilet flushes as drinking water.

(Excerpt) Read more at mysanantonio.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: desalination; drought; energy; naturalgas; saltwater; texas
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What I don't understand is that Texas has tremendous amounts of Natural Gas. Just set up some De-Salination plants using Natural Gas. Can this be so difficult?

This could be done for Dallas/Fort Worth, San Antonio, Austin, as well as other major Texas cities (and not so major ones).

There would be a cost involved, but Salt Water can be found almost everywhere. When oil/natural gas is drilled for, there are places where there are pockets of Salt Water underground.

Not to mention the Gulf of Mexico...

1 posted on 04/14/2014 12:18:05 PM PDT by topher
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To: thackney

Thoughts?


2 posted on 04/14/2014 12:18:29 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: topher
The following web link has a number of articles on de-salination:

http://www.waterefficiency.net/WE/articles.aspx?taxonomy=Desalination

3 posted on 04/14/2014 12:21:00 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: topher

Cost.


4 posted on 04/14/2014 12:22:29 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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> Thoughts?

Wow. Drinking fecal matter. Its sort of like watching 0bummer give a speech (okay, reading a teleprompter)


5 posted on 04/14/2014 12:23:23 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: topher

I’ll stick to Diet-Pepsi, thank you very much.


6 posted on 04/14/2014 12:25:24 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: topher
Here are a couple of articles from the "Water Efficiency" webpage:

Desalination Plant Using STW's Technology Is Treating 700,000 Gallons Per Day: STW says technology at West Texas golf course adapted from its oil and gas water reclamation technology can be used for large municipalities and other industries

Turning Gulf waters into drinking water focus of effort: General Land Office, Guadalupe-Blanco River Authority partner for groundbreaking research

7 posted on 04/14/2014 12:25:32 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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Many (maybe most) waste water treatment plants produce potable water. That’s what they are for. They take sewage and make it safe for the environment (which is to say it is safe to drink). I’m sure this is simply a bureaucratic regulatory thing.

In industrial buildings that require a waste treatment plant, the waste water leaving the plants can be drank from the discharge pipes (at least initially). It tastes fine.


8 posted on 04/14/2014 12:26:01 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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I was asking 'Thackney', who comments on Oil/Gas Industry for his opinion of using Natural Gas to De-Salinate Salt Water -- not for recycling wastewater...

Saltwater can be found underground in places where oil and natural gas are drilled for...

So it is possible to use Texas' vast natural gas reserves to change salt water into fresh water...

9 posted on 04/14/2014 12:28:08 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: jsanders2001; CMailBag

You two are likely drinking treated water every day that came from a waste water treatment plant. That is, unless you drink well water.

Silly FReepers.


10 posted on 04/14/2014 12:28:21 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: topher

The first link at your list:

Carlsbad Desalination Project Wins 2013 Global Water Awards ‘Desalination Deal of the Year’

This will be the largest desalination plant in the western hemisphere. But they don’t even mention the cost.

This is a Billion Dollar plant.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Desalination-plants-a-pricey-option-if-drought-5239096.php


11 posted on 04/14/2014 12:28:37 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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An alternative is to take saltwater and change it into freshwater.

There is a cost for the energy plant and the energy, but there is an abundance of saltwater. When one drills for oil/natural gas, the oil companies have to deal with saltwater.

Just boil it (using de-salination process), and one has fresh water...

That is my tangent - start producing fresh water in dry areas using de-salination plants...

12 posted on 04/14/2014 12:31:42 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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Having lived in that dreadful city (Shepherd Air Force Base) the water from the treatment plant will be an improvement. I have never tased or smelled such awful tap water in all my travels. I hope never to return to that place.


13 posted on 04/14/2014 12:33:05 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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If the cost is $1 billion for the plant (building costs), then that is something to consider.

It is the operating costs that are critical.

If you look at what the Obama Administration spends on GREEN NONSENSE, then spending 10 or 15 billion on de-salination is not a bad thing -- at least taxpayers would get something...

The Obama GREEN PROJECTS have basically been flushing money down the toilet and into the pockets of Obama supporters...

14 posted on 04/14/2014 12:35:30 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: Organic Panic

Are we talking about Ubbock?
I’m not familiar with that West Texas town./S


15 posted on 04/14/2014 12:36:22 PM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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Probably minerals and other junk in the water.

With desalination (changing saltwater to freshwater), one should be able to get good drinking water...

16 posted on 04/14/2014 12:36:59 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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Probably minerals and other junk in the water.

With desalination (changing saltwater to freshwater), one should be able to get good drinking water...

17 posted on 04/14/2014 12:36:59 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: 9422WMR
If you LOVE UBBOCK then you will LOVE LUBBOCK.

Sometimes when one cuts and pastes, a 'chop' happens.

I chopped something off that I should not have...

18 posted on 04/14/2014 12:38:20 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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Keep in mind a desalination plant does not just produce fresh water.

It also produces a lot of very salty water as well. Not much of a problem if the plant is on the ocean. More of a problem when hundreds of miles from the coast.


19 posted on 04/14/2014 12:38:42 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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There is a cost for the energy plant and the energy, but there is an abundance of saltwater. When one drills for oil/natural gas, the oil companies have to deal with saltwater.

Help me out here. Don't we have de-salination plants aboard nuclear vessels that use salt water for cooling?

I don't know what a de-salination plant costs to build, but if they can use salt water for cooling and capture the steam, viola! Fresh water as a by-product of "capturing" nuclear energy.

I'm sure I have over-simplified it.

20 posted on 04/14/2014 12:39:20 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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