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Is Oil Slick Found Near 'Ping' Site Linked to Missing MH370?
NBC News ^ | 04/14/2014

Posted on 04/14/2014 3:06:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Crews searching for the missing Malaysia Airlines jet are investigating an oil slick found not far from the area where underwater “pings” that may be linked to the aircraft’s black box were detected.

“A sample of about two liters has been collected and we are a number of days before it can be landed ashore and conclusively tested,” said retired Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston, the head of a joint agency coordinating the painstaking search off Australia’s west coast. “I stress the source of the oil is yet to be determined.”

The slick is approximately 18,000 feet down-wind and down-sea from signals consistent with an aircraft's black boxes that were detected by a U.S. Navy "pinger locator" that was towed in the southern Indian Ocean.

However, one expert warned that it would be impossible to directly link the sample to the Boeing 777 which vanished on March 8.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2014airlinercrash; australia; autopilot; ccp; china; malaysiaairlines; maldives; mh370; oilrigworker; radar; southchinasea; unitedkingdom; wildgoosechase
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To: Don Corleone; CodeJockey

Possible MH370 ditched into the ocean intact, say aviation experts

http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/possible-mh370-ditched-into-the-ocean-intact-say-aviation-experts

As the search for the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 entered its fourth week, two aviation experts told CNN there is a possibility the plane ditched into the ocean intact leaving little debris....


21 posted on 04/14/2014 4:35:48 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SeekAndFind

More likely Chinese trash.


22 posted on 04/14/2014 4:47:38 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: SeekAndFind

Don’t they have amphibs that could meet this boat somewhere at sea pick it up and fly it back instead of waiting weeks for that ship to get in ?


23 posted on 04/14/2014 4:55:30 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: minnesota_bound
"Missing Japanese sub from WW2....."


24 posted on 04/14/2014 4:57:57 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Gay State Conservative
“Yep...it is just better refined diesel.”
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I am not surprised, Years ago we used to put JP 5,4?? in the emergency diesel at the GCA sites, worked fine, the engine just ran a little hotter.
25 posted on 04/14/2014 5:37:18 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Gay State Conservative; gr8eman

Jet fuel is actually kerosene with some extra goodies in it for thermal stability and spark resistance.

Diesel is in the C8-C21 range and Kerosene in the C6 to C16 range with respect to hydrocarbon chain length.


26 posted on 04/14/2014 5:49:05 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Uncle Chip
Possible MH370 ditched into the ocean intact, say aviation experts

Hmmm... a suicidal pilot decides that for his last bit of fun, he tries to land the plane Sullenberger style and after doing so successfully, it fills full of water and drops to the bottom of the ocean. Hence no debris field. Interesting theory.

27 posted on 04/14/2014 6:18:42 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: PAR35

...not only that, but the jet most likely crashed there FOR LACK OF FUEL. It’s tanks should have been filled with nothing more than fumes by the time that jet cartwheeled into the water with an engine out.


28 posted on 04/14/2014 7:38:50 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: PAR35

Naw, the CIA probably just spread the oil in the last week.


29 posted on 04/14/2014 7:39:54 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Axenolith
Jet fuel is actually kerosene with some extra goodies in it for thermal stability and spark resistance.

Like the spark that caused the center fuel tank problem in TWA800?

30 posted on 04/14/2014 7:44:30 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: PAR35
The slick moved 3 miles in a month and remained intact?

You broke the code.

With the rough weather that area had in the last month, there is no way any slick would stay intact. It would have been dispersed long ago.

Besides if the plane supposedly traveled until it was out of fuel, how much fuel would be left to create a slick this size?

31 posted on 04/14/2014 7:49:31 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Tallguy

<> the jet most likely crashed there FOR LACK OF FUEL<>

The following graph is evidence that the plane was likely ditched with enough fuel to go another 300+ miles —

https://www.facebook.com/178566888854999/photos/pcb.740971779281171/740971732614509/?type=1&theater

— thus an oil slick from the engines on the ocean floor below is entirely possible along with the fact that there is no debris as it would all have been trapped in the fuselage as it sunk to the ocean floor.


32 posted on 04/14/2014 8:23:48 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: exit82
With the rough weather that area had in the last month, there is no way any slick would stay intact. It would have been dispersed long ago.

Not if it had just seeped up from the engines laying on the ocean floor below.

33 posted on 04/14/2014 8:27:38 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

The engines, like the rest of the plane, is probably in a million pieces.

A plane does not drop into the ocean and stay intact, from 35,000 feet. Hitting the water would be like crashing into the ground. One engine could have flamed out before the other, and there would be an awful uncontrolled descent, probably end over end.

Fuel would have been in the wing tanks and very little would be seeping from anywhere. It would have been dispersed.

Who knows—this fuel could be seeping from an old wreck from years ago. The water is almost three miles deep in this area.


34 posted on 04/14/2014 8:44:24 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82
The engines, like the rest of the plane, is probably in a million pieces.

Not if it ditched at that point and the absence of debris in that area is a pretty good indication that the pilot set it down instead of crashing it especially since he had atleast 300+ more miles of fuel onboard.

35 posted on 04/14/2014 8:54:05 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

I honestly don’t think the pilot “set it down”. The indication s are the plane, at best, was on some kind of autopilot. It would not have landed itself. Even if it did, the plane would have been hit by the waves and flipped or broken up on impact.

Sullenberger accomplished that feat in the Hudson River while in control of the plane, and in better circumstances. He still could have flipped the plane at any moment.His great skill prevented that. And that was in a relatively calm river.

The Indian Ocean is anything but calm. And 300 gallons of fuel is only speculation at this point, like everything else about this plane.

The people who know what happened are not speaking. We are no closer to knowing what happened than we were a month ago.


36 posted on 04/14/2014 9:00:28 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82

Check the links at posts 21 and 32 —

Pilots are trained on ditching procedures as part of their training and planes are ditched all the time without breaking up. Otherwise what is the purpose of flotation devices on planes — just for appearance sake.


37 posted on 04/14/2014 9:35:20 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

True about pilots, but all indications so far are that the pilots were dead,or unconscious. No one was in control of the aircraft.

The possibility of ditching intact are infinitesimal.


38 posted on 04/14/2014 9:43:57 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: ladyjane

Yea, that “spark”...


39 posted on 04/14/2014 9:45:17 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: exit82
but all indications so far are that the pilots were dead,or unconscious.

Oh no -- that is most definitely not true.

Even the Malaysians admit that the maneuvers the plane took after it was diverted indicated deliberate action by a pilot who knew what he was doing.

It made precise turns to avoid Indonesian radar and hit the aircraft waypoints that only a professional pilot would be familiar with.

And it could not have been on auto-pilot and made those kind of maneuvers.

And it had atleast 300 miles of fuel left onboard when it was set down according to aviation analysts who drew up the graph of its flight path. So it didn't just drop out of the sky. It went down there by deliberate action.

40 posted on 04/14/2014 10:02:25 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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