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WW3? Drudge loses it.

Posted on 04/16/2014 1:40:46 PM PDT by dangus

The Drudge Report always has its fun with misuse of images. But World War III is no laughing matter. In an attempt to paint Russia as hurtling us towards World War III, Drudge shows a picture of troops marching through the Ukraine, wearing Soviet-era uniforms. But the picture is out of context.

The picture is, in fact, from Odessa. Yes, there are significant numbers of Russophones. Yes, many of them may favor secession. Yes, some of the secessionists may have the same kind of romanticism for the Soviets that their Ukrainian neighbors have for the Nazi Banderites. But that's not what this picture shows.

This is a re-enactment of the liberation of Odessa from the Germans during WWII. Despite the popularity in some extremist corners of the Nazi-aligned Banderites, who exterminated a population of 80,000 Poles in one city alone, the Ukraine has always celebrated the day. Those are the uniforms worn by the people who fought off the Nazis during "the Great Patriotic War." The Soviet Union wasn't just Russia: From Trotsky to Brezhnev to Gorbachev, many Soviets were Ukrainians. And despite the horrors of communism, the Ukrainians have annually celebrated those who fought against the Nazis.


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To: Starboard
"I just don’t see him supporting any foreign military action ever, under any circumstances"

Obama bombed Libya in 2011. Or did you miss that?
61 posted on 04/16/2014 3:15:10 PM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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To: BenLurkin
Sounds like some crazy reaction to drugs, spice, bath salts or something, since he'd just released a new rap video the day before, aptly entitled "OOOH!":

Andre Johnson, aka Christ Bearer, apparently jumped off a two-story balcony in what appears to be a suicide attempt after reportedly cutting off his own penis.

He was found by police lying on the sidewalk alongside a North Hollywood apartment at approximately 1 AM on the morning of April 16. He was transported to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. No word on any attempt to reattach his penis.

Just yesterday, Christ Bearer released a new music video with Rugged Monk for “OOOH!”

62 posted on 04/16/2014 3:15:18 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: dangus
Russia has been moving rapidly towards free enterprise.

Russia is no longer an "enemy of capitalism", etc.

I'm quite shocked. If it was still an "evil empire", you'd think that so many huge Western companies would not be allowed to do business there by Western governments. Especially the US.

Here's a list of companies doing business in Russia:



32 Advisors LLC

Abbott Laboratories

AbbVie

Aerolase Corporation

Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP

Alcoa

Alfa Bank

Alliance Logistics

Almaz Capital Partners

American Chamber of Commerce in Russia

American Councils for International Education

American International Group (AIG)

American-Russian Cultural
Cooperation Foundation


American Superconductor Corp

Amgen, Inc.

APCO Worldwide

Apple, Inc.

Argus Limited

Association of Equipment Manufacturers

Association of Regional Banks of Russia

Atlantic Ro-Ro Carriers, Inc.

Automotive Industry Action Group (AIAG)

Aviahelp Group, JSC

Avon Products, Inc.

BNSF Logistics

BNY Mellon

BP America Inc.

Baker & McKenzie

Baker Botts L.L.P.

Baker Hughes B.V.

Bank of America

Baring Vostok Capital Partners

Baxter

BayRu LLC

Bentley Systems

Berry Moorman P.C.

Black & Veatch Corporation

The Boeing Company

BoKom International Consulting

Boston Scientific

Buchanan Ingersoll & Rooney PC

CRDF Global

Cameron

Capital Legal Services International LLC

Capital Research and Management Company

Cargill, Incorporated

Case New Holland

Caterpillar Inc.

CDNetworks

Celgene

Center for Business Ethics and Corporate Governance

Center for Entrepreneurship

ChemDiv, Inc.

Chevron Corporation

Chrysler Group LLC

Cisco Systems, Inc.

Citi

CLAAS North America Holdings

Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP

The Coca-Cola Company

ConocoPhillips

Council for U.S.-Russia Relations

Cummins Inc.

DHL Express

Debevoise & Plimpton LLP

Dechert LLP

Deere & Company

Deloitte

Dentons





EMC Corporation

Eagle Consulting International

Ecolab

Edelman

Educational Testing Service

Egorov, Puginsky, Afanasiev & Partners

E.J. Krause & Associates, Inc.

Emerging Markets Institute, Cornell University

Energy Policy Research Foundation, Inc.

EY

Eurasia Foundation

Exxon Mobil Corporation

FWH and Associates LLC

Feldmans Consulting

First International Resources

Fluor Corporation

Ford Motor Company

Fort Ross Conservancy

Fund-Operator of Program to Procure Financial Assistance to the Skolkovo Fund Innovative Projects

Gazprom Export

General Electric Company

General Motors Company

Google

Greville Group N.A., LLC .

Guardian Industries Corporation

Harriman Institute, Columbia University

Hermitage Museum Foundation

Hewlett-Packard Company

Highland Project Logistics, Inc.

Hill+Knowlton Strategies

IHS Cambridge Energy Research Associates

IPG Photonics Corporation

Institute for Health Policy Analysis

Innovative Pharma - Association of Pharmaceutical Companies

Integrum Worldwide

Interconnect Management Corporation

International Business-Government Counsellors, Inc.

International Paper

International Research and Exchange Board (IREX)

JTI Marketing and Sales

John Tedstrom Associates, LLC

Johnson & Johnson

Jones Day

JPMorgan Chase Bank

KPMG

Kalorama Partners, LLC

Kazan National Research Technological University

Kennan Institute

Ketchum, Inc.

Kidsave International

Kimberly-Clark Corporation

King & Spalding LLP

Law Offices of Ethan S. Burger

Law Office of Daniel J. Rothstein, P.C.

Lawson International, Inc.

Lazare Kaplan International Inc.

LegaLife LLC

Eli Lilly & Company

Lindsay Corporation

Loomis Associates International LLC

MSD Pharmaceuticals

Marchmont Capital Partners

Marks & Sokolov, LLC

Marriott Hotels of Moscow

MARS, Incorporated

McLarty Associates

Medtronic, Inc.

Mercator XXI, LLC

MetLife

Microsoft Corporation

Mid-Atlantic — Russia Business Council

Moscow State Mining University

New Ad Age International, Inc.

New Sensor Corporation

NUKEM Inc.

Open World Leadership Center

Osnovsky & Associates

PBN Hill+Knowlton Strategies

PwC

Parker Drilling

Partnership for International
Business Development


Penetron Russia Group of Companies

PepsiCo, Inc.

Petroleum Advisory Forum

Pettibone International LLC

Pfizer Inc.

The Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA)

Philip Morris Sales and Marketing Ltd.

Procter & Gamble

Progresstech Group of Companies

QUALCOMM Inc.

RB International Finance (USA) LLC

RDO Equipment Company

Rachmaninoff Competitions & Festivals, Inc.

Ramla Benaissa Architects

Renova Group of Companies

The Risk Advisory Group plc

Robinson College of Business, Georgia State University

RUSAL

RUSNANO, JSC

Russian Agricultural Bank

Russian American Foundation

Russian-American Business Council

SPP Management, Inc.

Sberbank of Russia

Saint-Petersburg Electrotechnical Company (SPbEC)

Schlumberger Limited

Siguler Guff & Company, LLC

Sobolev & Partners Legal Services, LLC

Squire Sanders

State Solutions LLP

Summa Group

T. Thomson & Associates

TD International, LLC

T.D. Williamson, Inc.

TMK IPSCO

Tecom Group Inc.

Transkor Group Inc.

Trans-NET, Inc.

Trident Capital

Trident Group, LLC

UFG Asset Management

UPS

The U.S. Russia Foundation
for Economic Advancement and the Rule of Law


USA Poultry and Egg Export Council (USAPEEC)

U.S.-Russia Chamber of Commerce (USRCC)

United Technologies Corporation

VSMPO-AVISMA Corporation

VTB Group

Valley Irrigation

Vanga Capital

Visa Inc.

Vnesheconombank

Volga-Dnepr Group of Companies

Vostok Service

The Walt Disney Company

White & Case LLC

White Nights Foundation of America

William T. Robinson PLLC

WorldBusiness Capital, Inc.

WorldTrade Executive, a part of Thomson Reuters.

Xerox Corporation

Zimmer, Inc.


63 posted on 04/16/2014 3:16:52 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: joseph20; Starboard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targeted_killing#Obama_Administration_position_on_combat_drones


64 posted on 04/16/2014 3:18:59 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen
We have gone full circle. Many people have such a strong normalcy bias they can not register what is happening.

If we weren't living though it ourselves, it be very hard to believe the events that have come to pass. Many years in the making but so much has transpired in such a short amount of time.

Couple that with huge technological leaps and it's no wonder many are having a hard time defining what they are seeing or accepting it.

65 posted on 04/16/2014 3:24:00 PM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: dangus

We already fought WWIII it was misnamed the cold war and had two very notable hot periods Korea and Vietnam Civil Wars.


66 posted on 04/16/2014 3:25:22 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zhang Fei

A worthy point:

83% profess faith in the Russian Orthodox Church (2013), but only 41% in another survey (2012)... what’s going on?

Well, your survey allowed the option for people who believed in God and were spiritual to define themselves as such, whereas the one I cited forced people to pick which religion they belonged to or state they were atheist.

I think it’s quite fair to say that about 42% of Russians identify with the Russian Orthodox Church politically, socially or even simply ethnically, yet haven’t accepted the entire belief system of the ROC. Sorta like the fact that 87% of Americans identify as Christians, but less than half associate with any specific denomination.

Nonetheless, even this represents fantastic growth, and completely obliterates the notion that Russia is becoming Islamic.

There is some obvious discrepancy, even still, however: Adding all “spiritual but not religious,” “undecided” and “unaffiliated Christian” still only gets you to exactly 83%, and I doubt 100% of the people in those categories see themselves as ROC. Looking into it, I think a 2012 Levada poll that found 73% are ROC is probably a more reasonable estimate of how many people have any affiliation with the ROC.


67 posted on 04/16/2014 3:26:59 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

i think the OP misses the point. Swap those Red Flags for Swastikas , and swap modern Odessa for modern Berlin. THATS the point Drudge is making. This isn’t a “re-enactment”.. this is the real deal.


68 posted on 04/16/2014 3:27:08 PM PDT by archduke
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To: cripplecreek

with the current US government i would agree - that bunch of amateurs need to keep out of it. I don’t normally agree with McCain, but on the issue of Ukraine, i’m as angry as he is. Obama just sends MREs instead of weapons ? How pathetic is that?

If i were Putin , i now know that America under Obama will do nothing, and therefore all bets are off. And that includes rolling the tanks all the way to Paris.

Bear in mind that Ukraine tank video - notice how the ground was wet and muddy? Well in Russia/Ukraine, it’s now the wet season - not good for tanks. Just wait until May/June when the ground gets solid.. Putin knows he has a window for “Greater Russia”.. and it’s this summer. And lets face it - do you honestly think that Marxists in the white house would threaten Putin with a nuclear strike if his tanks kept going ? Putin KNOWS that 2014 is his time. He won’t get another chance. THAT is the what you get when you elect a Marxist faculty lounge moron to the White House.


69 posted on 04/16/2014 3:27:08 PM PDT by archduke
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To: Zhang Fei

Those stats are very interesting. There are a whole lot more believers in Russia than one would think.

All those decades of persecution and the years of the Underground Church have served to make believers more firm and devout than American Christians.

The purest gold is that which has been through the hottest fire.


70 posted on 04/16/2014 3:28:15 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: dangus

There is massive government interference by the Russian government in both political and economic systems. Corruption is rampant and the rule of law weak. The president is supreme over everything, the rule of a man, with political and economic opponents jailed, exiled, or killed. The government controls numerous businesses, and is increasing rather than decreasing their share.


71 posted on 04/16/2014 3:33:33 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: dangus
Nevile Chamberlain had “peace in our time”. Everyone thought Churchill was a nutjob.

How did that work out for Europe?

72 posted on 04/16/2014 3:33:40 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: dangus

Nonetheless, WWIII is starting. Russia is making moves to take over previously-dominated countries, while outright taunting the USA. Other tyrants are realizing that the “USA will protect country X at all costs” treaties are BS, and that they’ve got a rare window of opportunity, 3 years to make great strides doing what other US Presidents would never allow and which our current POTUS practically encourages.

Drudge sometimes selects idealized images to indicate what’s going on. In this case, it’s kinda hard to show a photo of “Russian troops taking over Ukraine” when they’re operating without insignias and thru proxies, and often where independent photography thereof is nigh unto impossible. Yeah, he’s stretching it (as he often does), but the point is made: just a spark now, but WWIII has started.


73 posted on 04/16/2014 3:34:43 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Before you can find the right hill, someone will start watering trees. Prepare accordingly.)
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To: riri

I agree on the normalcy bias, riri.

Remember, though, that a lot has been happening all along, but the political theater was so realistic - and there was so much missing information in history books and in the news - that things were not what they seemed. I had heard of nwo, etc., going back to the 80s, but completely dismissed it as wacky. I just had never seen all of the conflict of interest evidence in the early 20th century. It was such damning evidence, it took a while to deal with it.

The technology - I agree - it’s the internet that allows information to get out. It’s just a hodge-podge is the only drawback, and one has to sift through it all.


74 posted on 04/16/2014 3:42:38 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: miserare
Those stats are very interesting. There are a whole lot more believers in Russia than one would think. All those decades of persecution and the years of the Underground Church have served to make believers more firm and devout than American Christians. The purest gold is that which has been through the hottest fire.

Unfortunately, Russian rulers, whether Tsars or General Secretaries, have conquered believer and unbeliever alike. Heck, most of the European wars have been between Christian kings, and were straightforward attempts to garner prestige and power at somebody else's expense. They were holy only in the sense that some of the sovereigns considered themselves the Hand of God.

75 posted on 04/16/2014 3:53:27 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: riri
Many people have such a strong normalcy bias they can not register what is happening.

Yes. Some people don't realize that Russia only went part of the way towards freedom, but then under the control of Putin started going backwards towards the Soviet system. The (false) idea that the Soviet Union is so strong that it will take time for people to realize it is coming back to life.

76 posted on 04/16/2014 3:55:46 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: joseph20

I said this in the clear context of wars. Or did you miss that.


77 posted on 04/16/2014 4:00:47 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: dangus
But by 1933, when Hitler siezed the Sudetenland, Hitler was already calling for the extinction of Jews, building concentration camps, etc.

Actually, Hitler didn't seize the Sudetenland until 1938, less than one year before the start of WWII in 1939 - not 1933.

Hitler was Chancellor of Germany in 1933 (similar to Vice-President) and didn't assume (or seize) total power in Germany until 1934, after German President Hindenburg died and Hitler became President. Britain (under Chamberlain), France and Italy gave Hitler the go-ahead to seize the Sudetenland in exchange for "peace" after Hitler gave his assurances that he had no further territorial ambitions (we all know how that turned out).

Prior to seizing the Sudetenland in 1938, Hitler first seized the Rhineland in 1936, then Austria in 1938. Had the allies called Hitler' Rhineland bluff in 1936 and sent in troops to regain control of the Rhineland, Hitler likely would have been forced from office for that fiasco, since Germany was just started their military build-up in 1934 and by 1936 was still not ready for a war with the western allies and any show of force by the allies would have likely ended Hitler's control of Germany.

78 posted on 04/16/2014 4:07:43 PM PDT by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: dforest

I will also add what the idiotic republican party thinks. They think they can disrespect their base and hopefully gain democrats and minority voters to vote for them. They think they get our vote because the opposition is so bad. We know it is bad, but if they ape democrat behavior, we really can’t say the opposition is any worse than they are.

That is why the GOP elites lose. The democrat party knows they have to please their base first.

Who respects a party that disenfranchises their base and whores themselves to appeal to voters who will never vote for them? Answer? The republican elite party.

These knot heads better wise up or they will get the blame for destroying this country.


79 posted on 04/16/2014 4:10:53 PM PDT by dforest
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To: dangus
You are being too literal. As Ayn Rand would have put it: you have a concrete mind -- you don't think well in the abstract.

Yes, Drudge was exaggerating. But there are parallels to draw to the previous World Wars.

80 posted on 04/16/2014 4:37:47 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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