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PHILLIPS: Where is the conservative establishment?
The Washington Times ^ | April 18, 2014 | By Judson Phillips

Posted on 04/18/2014 3:41:20 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Republicans, at least in theory, are better off than liberals. Republicans generally don’t manage to lose by repeating the same old mistakes. Instead, Republicans manage to find new, unique and very creative ways to lose.

House Speaker John Boehner has told business leaders and others on a couple of occasions he is going to get immigration amnesty done this year. In one instance, he said he was “hellbent” on getting it done.

Amnesty will, of course, destroy the Republican Party. That is why the Left loves it. Corporatists who want amnesty for low wages don’t think beyond the next quarter’s profit and loss report. It will doom them as well.

Republicans could stop this insanity, but the civil war in the Republican Party is the latest creative and unique way Republicans have found to lose.

John Boehner has been a disaster as the Republican speaker of the House. He has been walked on by the Democrats, unable to advance an agenda, and the efforts he promotes are more likely to kill the Republican Party than to give it a 40-year majority.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election2014

1 posted on 04/18/2014 3:41:21 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

bump


2 posted on 04/18/2014 3:49:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have completely changed my mind about big business and the chamber of commerce and country club types who seem to make up the Republican establishment. I used to think they were on our side and I believed in giving them everything they wanted to make us prosperous and me as well. That is over. I now believe they should just pay their damn taxes and they should pay a lot of them. This amnesty treason has really opened my eyes to these people. They should pay their taxes just like Rich libs need to do and deserve to do. Until the border is secure and until cheap rich Republicans buy us some media they should pay through their damn noses.


3 posted on 04/18/2014 3:50:39 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is a feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing corksucker.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think he confuses “Conservative establishment” with “Republican establishment” and in most cases he’s actually describing the latter.


4 posted on 04/18/2014 3:53:12 PM PDT by youngidiot (God help us.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All

I do not believe the voters in Ohio have the courage to do anything about this politician...

Equally so in the Senate with McConnell, or McCain, or any other establishment GOPe type...

Cornyn of Texas certainly bought himself another 6 years into that office...The Texas GOP saw fit to see that happen...

This is going to take a lot longer than anyone had thought before...And it is going to take $$$$$$$ to get it done...

Until then, involvement in trying to infiltrate and sway Chamber of Commerce’s around the country may not be the way to go...I just do not see their political positions changing until they start losing memberships, and dollars from big businesses and other forms of social events or fundraising...They will always find new avenues of revenue generation well before grassroots have a chance to usurp those sources...

Its just the nature of the system we have now...The grassroots need to find our nitch and keep the establishment out of the process as much as possible...Yeah, we might need to be very exclusive and critical of politicians trying to get into our sandbox and leave their own “tootsie rolls” buried in there to stink up our litter boxes, for lack of a better analogy...


5 posted on 04/18/2014 4:02:22 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: amnestynone

I’m surprised at how far big corporations have gone in taking activist stances over issues like gay marriage. Beer companies boycotting St. Patrick’s day parades being the latest absurd example.


6 posted on 04/18/2014 4:13:20 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Honestly I lost my faith in the republican party when they reelected John Boehner as Speaker, and thus effective leader, despite his failures sense taking that position.

I was already on the edge on the reelection of the Actual head of the RNC Reinhold Reince Priebus. Who has been nothing but a gross disaster sense he took over in 2011 stealing defeat from the jaws of victory

Reinhold Reince Priebus only managed to steal Defeat from the jaws of victory in 2012, like his counterpart John Boehner who has alienated the base and failed with the ‘moderates’.

Michael Steele actually brought us 2010.

Whatever theses people actually did the results speak for themselves. Traditionally when a man loses as badly as John Boehner and Reinhold Reince Priebus have lost you step down if for no other reason than to give the party a fresh start.

When the Republican establishment failed to replace theses men they demonstrated they had no desire for victory.


7 posted on 04/18/2014 4:20:48 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: stevie_d_64

“I do not believe the voters in Ohio have the courage to do anything about this politician.”

Its very difficult to replace a man with as much power and influence as speaker of the house. Such men tend to uses such power to bring home lost of bacon.

Hairy Reid came very close but in the end thirty pieces of Silver is more valuable to the advantage voter in Nevada than their political values, freedom, and believes. This is the power of incumbency the result current House and Senate rules which award highest position to the longest serving members.

We should focus on getting other republicans elected who will not reelect him as speaker. We should also try to pressade him to step down as speaker volentarly to give the party a fresh start.


8 posted on 04/18/2014 4:26:06 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I COMPLETELY support Amnesty...with the provision that food-stamps, section 8 housing ,and the rest of the entire welfare establishment is IMMEDIATELY dismantled.

Welcome to the USA...work,pay YOUR Own way or GO HOME!!


9 posted on 04/18/2014 4:42:45 PM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Where is the conservative establishment?"

De-established. Give the contemporary political folks enough rope, and... Most people working are getting their incomes from government either directly or indirectly. Nearly all who are receiving incomes are receiving their incomes from government. That's the voter base, and both parties are contending for it.


10 posted on 04/18/2014 5:02:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

Interesting. The government sues U.S. citizen sponsors whose immigrant wives, husbands or kids use welfare. How are illegals getting the benefits?


11 posted on 04/18/2014 5:06:19 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Monorprise

“Its very difficult to replace a man with as much power and influence as speaker of the house.”

Ever heard of Tom Foley?

And in the Senate, have you ever heard of Tom Daschle?


12 posted on 04/18/2014 9:14:57 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Re: “Where is the conservative establishment?”

I'd be happy if I knew who was IN the Conservative establishment.

Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee?

I would probably vote for Rand Paul, but his position on Immigration, on Defense spending, and on the defense of Israel do not impress me as Conservative.

At the national level, traditional Conservatives have no organization and no obvious national leaders.

No leadership means no coherent message and no political strategy.

And that means disarray, which is exactly what we have had since Newt Gingrich moved Left and self-destructed in 1998.

13 posted on 04/18/2014 10:34:42 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: youngidiot
I think he confuses “Conservative establishment” with “Republican establishment” and in most cases he’s actually describing the latter.

I was thinking the same thing.

I don’t think there ever was a Conservative Establishment. The Republican Party has never really been conservative. Both parties have always been statist to one degree or another. Even Thomas Jefferson when he was President did things that could be considered statist.

14 posted on 04/19/2014 2:46:26 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: familyop

“Interesting. The government sues U.S. citizen sponsors whose immigrant wives, husbands or kids use welfare. How are illegals getting the benefits?”

When Jack Kemp was Sec of HUD the city of Costa Mesa, CA tried to boot illegals out of HUD housing. Kemp slapped down their efforts and illegals still live in taxpayer financed HUD housing. Be sure to thank the GOP’s treason lobby wing for their role in this.


15 posted on 04/19/2014 11:02:35 PM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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