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Whoops! Half of Georgiaís Insurance Enrollees Havenít Paid Yet
National Review Online ^ | April 21, 2014 6:26 AM | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 04/21/2014 9:11:25 AM PDT by Hoodat

From the first Morning Jolt of the week:

Whoops: Half of Georgia’s Insurance Enrollees Haven’t Paid Yet.

This seems rather important:
Georgia insurers received more than 220,000 applications for health coverage in the Affordable Care Act’s exchange as of the official federal deadline of March 31, state officials said Wednesday.

Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens, though, said premiums have been received for only 107,581 of those policies, which cover 149,465 people.

“Many Georgians completed the application process by the deadline, but have yet to pay for the coverage,” Hudgens said in a statement Wednesday.


Half? Half? Sure, the nonpayment rates will be a lot lower in other places. But this indicates how much skepticism is warranted for the administration’s much-touted enrollment figures.

When Progressives insist that we’re wrong and Obamacare is more popular than it seems, they’ll point to the enrollment numbers. They dismiss the national surveys, but there’s some indication that Obamacare’s meager support in the polls is actually worse than we think, because it’s being artificially boosted by respondents that are eager to declare the whole thing a success, no matter how their state exchange is actually performing. . .

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; exchanges; fraud; georgia; obama; obamacare; obamacareenrollment; obamacarepremiums; rinocare; socialism; zerocare
Half of Georgia’s Insurance Enrollees Haven’t Paid Yet

Duh.

1 posted on 04/21/2014 9:11:26 AM PDT by Hoodat
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To: FreedomPoster

We-told-you-so ping.


2 posted on 04/21/2014 9:12:28 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

Found out it wasn’t free so screw that..... It should be free like my food stamps, phone, housing.....


3 posted on 04/21/2014 9:13:41 AM PDT by Hogblog
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To: Hoodat

Most of thme in Atlantz?


4 posted on 04/21/2014 9:15:51 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Hoodat

Half of the country Insurance Enrollees Haven’t Paid Yet double duh.

No wonder Obama won’t release the numbers.


5 posted on 04/21/2014 9:16:39 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Hoodat
Not surprising.

We have mandatory auto insurance here in California.

Many people "buy" insurance the month their auto registration is due and then let the policy lapse the next month.

6 posted on 04/21/2014 9:16:40 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Hoodat

The EXEMPT will have the non-EXEMPT be further
taxed to pay for this AND the coverup.


7 posted on 04/21/2014 9:18:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Hoodat
Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens, though, said premiums have been received for only 107,581 of those policies, which cover 149,465 people.

Enrollee: "Premium?? What premium?! I signed up for the Bronze Plan, not the premium plan, foo!"

8 posted on 04/21/2014 9:26:21 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Texas Eagle

I’ve heard stories of people making up fake auto insurance cards to show to the police when they get stopped. You are royally screwed if you have an accident and don’t have actual insurance.


9 posted on 04/21/2014 9:27:12 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: Hoodat

I’m shocked that half of them have paid.


10 posted on 04/21/2014 9:28:35 AM PDT by Old Yeller (In Latin, the word sinister means left. Which is appropriate for left-wingers.)
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To: Hoodat

Just wait till the real number of deadbeats on this disaster comes to light after the Nov. election. There will be even more uninsured next year than this year.


11 posted on 04/21/2014 9:28:55 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Hoodat

Is policy issuance guaranteed upon enrollment and payment of first month’s premium?

Or do applicants still have to have blood drawn, pee in a bottle and have medical records permitted in order to verify the application?

What about the pre existing conditions crowd? Do they get automatic enrollment upon payment and verification?


12 posted on 04/21/2014 9:29:48 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey 2008, we told you so)
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To: Hoodat

Obama and his servants at MSNBC assure is that they are ‘covered’ now so that means its a great successs.


13 posted on 04/21/2014 9:30:46 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: Texas Eagle

Some of the auto insurance companies that cater to Mexicans in TX sell policies by the day. In other words, they pay for insurance to get the proof of insurance card in order to get their license tag. So if they hit you, you hope it’s on that one day when they are insured.


14 posted on 04/21/2014 9:32:49 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: Hoodat
...... Don't know if this is true or not but last month I heard somebody mention that initial payments for insurance obtained through the ACA exchange who enrolled between 3/16 - 3/31 won't start coverage until May 1st. In many cases, their first month's premium won't even be due until up to 6 weeks or more after they enroll.

...... If this is true then the payments of those who enrolled in March won't actually be due until about May. And to be honest .... Most people I know, including yours truly, usually don't pay bills until the last minute so if they are going to pay .... it will be around that "Last Minute.".

15 posted on 04/21/2014 9:36:03 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Hoodat
And the ones that have paid, have they found doctors yet, or have they started paying copayments and deductibles.

It will still be some time before we see stories about Obamacare enrollees declaring bankruptcy because the coverage was so poor.

16 posted on 04/21/2014 9:36:14 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Hoodat
We have to stop using the metric of sign-ups as a measure of Obamacare's success. The numbers will go up along with the number paying. Businesses will drop their health care plans and force people on to the exchanges. It is cheaper to pay the penalties than the costs of health care.

The real story of Obamacare is contained in this story by one of the two public members of SS and Medicare Board of Trustees. It is a devastating article that needs wider circulation.

Below is an excerpt from The Unfolding Fiscal Disaster Behind ACA Enrollment Figures By Charles Blahous

"Earlier this month there was tremendous press attention to new data indicating that enrollment in the Affordable Care Act (ACA)’s health insurance exchanges had surpassed 7 million. The White House took a victory lap while much of the press, desperate to write something positive after months of reporting on website glitches and insurance plan cancellations, characterized the milestone as good political news for ACA supporters. Our national discussion, however, is missing the truly significant story here; what is unfolding before our eyes is a colossal fiscal disaster, poised to haunt legislators and taxpayers for decades to come.

It is quite possible that the ACA is shaping up as the greatest act of fiscal irresponsibility ever committed by federal legislators. Nothing immediately comes to mind as comparable to it. Certainly no tax legislation is, because tax rates rise and fall frequently, such that one Congress’s tax cut can be (and often is) undone by a later tax increase. The same is true for legislation affecting appropriated spending programs. But the ACA is a commitment to permanently subsidize comprehensive health insurance for millions who could not otherwise afford it, which the federal government has no viable plan to finance. Moreover, experience shows that it is very difficult to scale back such spending once large numbers of Americans have been made dependent on it.

Let’s walk through the salient features of this unfolding fiscal disaster:

An Expansion of Spending Commitments Comparable to Enacting Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid: Our biggest fiscal problems today stem from Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security costs rising well beyond original projections. The ACA was enacted even though these longstanding financing challenges have still not been met, and represents an additional expansion of federal commitments comparable to these other programs’ creations. CBO now estimates that the gross costs of the ACA’s coverage expansion will be $92 billion in FY2015, or about 0.5% of our total GDP of roughly $18 trillion. This far exceeds, even relative to today’s larger economy, the initial costs associated with the entirety of Social Security and Medicaid, and is comparable to the startup costs for all original parts of Medicare combined. Consider this: just five years after enactment the ACA will absorb more of our total economic output than Social Security did fully sixteen years after it was enacted.

17 posted on 04/21/2014 9:36:26 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Texas Eagle

I had a State Senator refer to that as “Street Insurance.” Just enough to get you on the street.

It was in response to my request for a law promising jail time for uninsured motorists. I called it the “I don’t care about your personal problems auto insurance reform act.”


18 posted on 04/21/2014 9:39:46 AM PDT by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: Hoodat

19 posted on 04/21/2014 9:43:08 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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To: Hoodat

Welllllllll, then they count double, right?


20 posted on 04/21/2014 9:47:50 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: pabianice

I could have gone the rest of the year without seeing that face. Thanks for ruining my appetite. I think I’ll skip lunch today. And supper as well.


21 posted on 04/21/2014 9:50:02 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: kabar
This thing was originally sold as being 'revenue neutral'. However, that required ten years of taxes to fund six years of coverage. I suppose that after six years, they will suspend Obamacare for four years to allow tax revenues to catch up again.

I remember how Democrats howled back during the government budget battle how Republicans were trying to cut off funding for ObamaCare. If it's really revenue-neutral, then what do they need funding for?

22 posted on 04/21/2014 9:52:42 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Texas Eagle

Many people “buy” insurance the month their auto registration is due and then let the policy lapse the next month.”

Same thing happens in Texas. Our rates continue to escalate. My Congressman, who is also my insurance agent, says it’s because there are so many more cars on Texas highways which is BS.

He did say I could lower my premium if I had a newer car equipped with a black box, but then my premiums would increase because of having a newer vehicle. We have had several discussions concerning the black box law that Texas passed. Asked him why there were no regs put in place as to who could access that info and for what purpose and he said to talk to DC - it was their law. Reminded him that I thought it was the responsibility of the Texas Legislature to protect their constituents from Federal law. Seems to me like he has a huge conflict of interest between selling insurance for a living and serving in the Texas Legislature on the insurance committee.

In this day of availability of technology IMO insurance carriers could let the state Insurance Commission know if someone’s policy was cancelled because of non-payment of premium and then the car taken off the road.


23 posted on 04/21/2014 9:54:39 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Hoodat


24 posted on 04/21/2014 10:08:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (NSA reports Malaysia Flight 370 black box signals detected in Bermuda Triangle)
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To: Hoodat

some of us just ignored completely.... so fine me


25 posted on 04/21/2014 10:09:53 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Texas Eagle

That doesn’t work in Georgia...as soon as you don’t have coverage the state is notified. If you get pulled over for a ticket life will get very tough.


26 posted on 04/21/2014 10:11:18 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Huh? Since when does one have to have a blood draw, urine test, and medical records in order to have insurance????


27 posted on 04/21/2014 10:13:06 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Hoodat; AnAmericanMother; Apple Pan Dowdy; bfh333; Broker; clee1; ctdonath2; dansangel; ...

GA FReeper ping. Local proof of the resounding SUCCESS of Obamacare!

The < /s> shouldn’t be necessary, but I shall add it just the same.


28 posted on 04/21/2014 10:15:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Hoodat
Perhaps they could pay in copies of banknotes and IOU’s from the Continental Congress....
29 posted on 04/21/2014 10:30:09 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: COBOL2Java
"Premium?? What premium?! I signed up for the Bronze Plan, not the premium plan, foo!"

You totally gave me the lulz.
30 posted on 04/21/2014 10:31:06 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Nifster

Individual health insurance plans? Am I wrong or is that just for life/disability?

Isn’t there at least a request for medical records to set a rating and premium?


31 posted on 04/21/2014 10:35:55 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey 2008, we told you so)
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To: Nifster

Oh gotcha, duhhhhh . . my bad. These are the equivalent of group pools.


32 posted on 04/21/2014 10:37:39 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Hey 2008, we told you so)
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To: Hoodat

wow- big surprise. It’s the parasites who signed up in droves for a freebie


33 posted on 04/21/2014 11:25:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Iron Munro

I am getting SO SICK of that face, that oversized chin, and that flat, fake smile.


34 posted on 04/21/2014 2:24:30 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: A_Former_Democrat

not necessarily..... They may want your sex and age. Most of the Ocare stuff is based on deductibles and coverage caps. The premiums are being ‘set’ based on the docs and hospitals that are willing to take the low reimbursement rate that Ocare offers.

Employer based health insurance has always been about the law of large numbers. You pay in part or in whole the premium that the group pays.

Individual plans may ask you to take a medical before the premium is set but not all do. Again it depends on what you are paying out of pocket


35 posted on 04/21/2014 2:39:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: A_Former_Democrat

yeah you got it and I answered before I saw your catch...


36 posted on 04/21/2014 2:40:01 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Hoodat

I only have two words to say:

Ha !

and

HA !!


37 posted on 04/23/2014 12:22:31 PM PDT by WKTimpco
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