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Poll shows decline in support for Boy Scouts
dallas news ^ | 17 April 2014 | SCOTT K. PARKS

Posted on 04/23/2014 6:04:06 PM PDT by T Ruth

The Boy Scouts’ image, once defined by idyllic Norman Rockwell paintings, has suffered during the contentious debate over whether [homosexual] youths and adults should be allowed to participate in Scouting, according to a public opinion poll.

Rasmussen Reports, an independent polling firm, asked the following question in a telephone survey: “Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, or very unfavorable impression of the Boy Scouts of America?”

According to the poll, 59 percent of American adults have a very favorable or somewhat favorable opinion of the Boy Scouts. That’s a 6-point drop since last May, and a 14-point drop since February 2012.

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Twenty-one percent of respondents said they had a very favorable opinion of the organization — down from 40 percent two years ago.

Fran Coombs, managing editor of Rasmussen Reports, said the polling data shed no direct light on why an increasing number of Americans seem to be developing negative feelings about the Boy Scouts of America.

But he added, “As a lay person, the only thing I see about Scouts that has risen to the surface is the [homosexual] issue.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; triallife
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1 posted on 04/23/2014 6:04:06 PM PDT by T Ruth
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To: T Ruth

I love my country, but there are a lot of really stupid, or evil, people out there.

How to reconcile the two notions?


2 posted on 04/23/2014 6:05:51 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: T Ruth
As if we didn't tell National Scout Council that would happen.
3 posted on 04/23/2014 6:06:05 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: T Ruth

The BSA shouldn’t have surrendered to the homosexual mafia. The same thing is going to happen to Chik-fil-A.


4 posted on 04/23/2014 6:06:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: T Ruth

pathetic organization. The only one more pathetic are the abortion-loving girl scouts.


5 posted on 04/23/2014 6:06:36 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: T Ruth

Does the poll differentiate between those who are unfavorable toward the Scouts because they “discriminate” against homos and those whose favorability dropped because they partially caved to the homos? Sounds like another episode in “How To Lie with Statistics”.


6 posted on 04/23/2014 6:06:41 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: T Ruth
Homosexual former boyscout, unable to be a leader, starts his own scouting group...arrested for sexually molesting multiple boys on camping trips.
7 posted on 04/23/2014 6:07:21 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: T Ruth

I’m still proud of the Boy Scouts, especially OA members and Eagle Scouts. Anyone who dislikes the Boy Scouts because they have principles that they refuse to compromise can get bent.


8 posted on 04/23/2014 6:08:28 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of liberty only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: T Ruth

Hang tough, we don’t want the nea sayers.


9 posted on 04/23/2014 6:08:53 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: T Ruth

Well, when a group gives up it’s strong values held for over 100+ years to homofacists what would they expect.


10 posted on 04/23/2014 6:11:21 PM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: PGR88
You can't reconcile them: they're both correct.

All good things must come to an end. The silver lining in this situation is the formation of Trail Life USA, a chance to improve on and correct the errors of BSA. Trail Life

The Trail Life people seem to be doing a really great job.

11 posted on 04/23/2014 6:11:37 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

From the article: “Fran Coombs, managing editor of Rasmussen Reports, said the polling data shed no direct light on why an increasing number of Americans seem to be developing negative feelings about the Boy Scouts of America.”


12 posted on 04/23/2014 6:14:08 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: T Ruth

I’ll speculate that the 14% drop since 2012 is almost entirely white Democrats.


13 posted on 04/23/2014 6:16:35 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: icwhatudo
I saw that.

"the teacher was hired while police were investigating him."

Who can believe it?

14 posted on 04/23/2014 6:16:41 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: ronnyquest

Everyone I knew, along with myself, were Boy Scouts back in the 50s. Scouts, like most everything decent about America is soon to be gone with the wind.


15 posted on 04/23/2014 6:16:52 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: T Ruth

I used to hold the Scouts in the highest esteem possible. But once they caved like pathetic cowards to the homo-fascists, I lost every shred of respect I once had for them. I look upon the organization with nothing but utter contempt now.


16 posted on 04/23/2014 6:17:48 PM PDT by greene66
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To: T Ruth

Maybe it’s because Lord Baden-Powell originally meant for Scouting to be an environment where an urbanized child grew into full healthy manhood. But like everything else we have somehow managed to twist that concept into oblivion.


17 posted on 04/23/2014 6:18:11 PM PDT by Calusa (Were going to have that person arrested.....that did the video, said Hillary Clinton.)
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To: SandRat

The national scout council stands for everything that scouting is supposed to be against.


18 posted on 04/23/2014 6:18:28 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Lord Baden-Powell is twisting in his grave.


19 posted on 04/23/2014 6:21:21 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: T Ruth

BSA leaders voted last May to amend their long-standing membership policy and allow openly gay youths to participate in Scouting. But the new policy still bars openly gay adults from becoming Scoutmasters or serving as paid staff at BSA councils throughout the nation.


When you try to please everyone, nobody likes you. Can’t have it both ways.


20 posted on 04/23/2014 6:22:11 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: T Ruth

Why the heck didn’t they ASK the responders why they now have a bad opinion of the BSs? That would have been a legitimate question.


21 posted on 04/23/2014 6:23:36 PM PDT by kitkat (STORM HEAVEN WITH PRAYERS FOR OUR COUNTRY)
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To: T Ruth

You mean that the embrace of buggery didn’t save the organization? Gee, whodathunkit?


22 posted on 04/23/2014 6:27:43 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: T Ruth

T Ruth,

As a Trail Life USA Troopmaster and former Scoutmaster, I can back up what you said. Our nascent little group is doing great.


23 posted on 04/23/2014 6:28:11 PM PDT by cyclotic (America's premier outdoor adventure association for boys-traillifeusa.com)
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24 posted on 04/23/2014 6:32:38 PM PDT by narses (Matthew 7:6. He appears to have made up his mind let him live with the consequences.)
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To: cyclotic
Our nascent little group is doing great.

Very pleased to hear it.

25 posted on 04/23/2014 6:36:11 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: T Ruth

The BSA feeling the lefty love yet?


26 posted on 04/23/2014 6:39:37 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ronnyquest

They are now the Sodomy Scouts to me. It’s the poor kids getting bent over by the homosexuals people should mourn


27 posted on 04/23/2014 6:40:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ronnyquest

They stopped having principles


28 posted on 04/23/2014 6:41:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ronnyquest

I performed OA. And came within 3 months from eagle.

One needed to be a Life scout for 6 months before Eagle. And I became Life 3 months before my 18th b-day. D’oh!


29 posted on 04/23/2014 6:44:15 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: T Ruth

The power of Media Propoganda


30 posted on 04/23/2014 6:44:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: ronnyquest

Gets my vote.

F anyone who wants to trash the scouts for standing up for what is right, and more importantly the safety of the individual boy scouts.

NAMLA couldn’t have better fellow travelers...


31 posted on 04/23/2014 6:45:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: ronnyquest

Do the Boy Scouts have principles they refuse to compromise?


32 posted on 04/23/2014 6:50:11 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kitkat
Why the heck didn’t they ASK the responders why they now have a bad opinion of the BSs?

Because too might have answered, "Because the TV told me to."

33 posted on 04/23/2014 6:50:38 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: T Ruth

I will never again support the BSA in any way. Former Eagle Scout.


34 posted on 04/23/2014 6:55:13 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: ronnyquest
From the article: "BSA leaders voted last May to amend their long-standing membership policy and allow openly [homosexual] youths to participate in Scouting. But the new policy still bars openly [homosexual] adults from becoming Scoutmasters or serving as paid staff at BSA councils throughout the nation."

It is understood that this is an unstable, temporary step until the BSA "goes all the way" and allows homosexual adult leaders. Within a year scouts claiming to be homosexual will turn eighteen and apply to be adult leaders. The BSA will have no coherent argument to deny them.

Furthermore, the new policy was designed to destroy the defense which the Scouts successfully used years ago to restrict homosexuals from leadership. That was the argument that a private organization could vindicate its own uniformly applied membership principles. Now the BSA can't say that anymore.

It seems to me that the BSA compromised their principles severely, not to mention, as others have pointed out, failed those parts of the Scout Oath which say that a Scout is brave, trustworthy, reverent.

35 posted on 04/23/2014 6:57:16 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: T Ruth

The real value of Scouting was to teach character and values. Outdoor skills were secondary. Character and values are rooted in a moral framework that Scout leadership cast aside when they accepted the immoral of homosexualtiy.

One of the attributes of the Scout Law is “Reverent”. Homosexuality, being one of the things listed in Rev. 22:15 as disqualifying a person from receiving the free gift of eternal life, is instead profane and carnal. Scout leadership has made their pact with the Devil. Let them enjoy the praise of their new peers in this profane world. They won’t get any praise (or money) from me.


36 posted on 04/23/2014 6:58:15 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: DoughtyOne

In what way did the BSA “[stand] up for what is right, and more importantly the safety of the individual boy scouts.”?


37 posted on 04/23/2014 6:59:45 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: T Ruth

What the Council did was unforgivable and shortsighted for exactly the reasons you describe.

My kid just became a Boy Scout after 3 years as a Cub. It was a tough call to leave him in the organization but the decision at the National level has had no impact on his Troop, everything is status quo.

The future of Scouting however, is very dim.


38 posted on 04/23/2014 7:08:26 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: T Ruth

How many of the permanent employees of the organization have lost their jobs? That would reveal the reality of their popular lurch to the left.


39 posted on 04/23/2014 7:27:51 PM PDT by Theodore R. (It was inevitable: Texans will always be for Cornball and George P.!)
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To: greene66
"I look upon the organization with nothing but contempt now."

I hope you also view the US military in the same light.

40 posted on 04/23/2014 7:32:22 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“The BSA shouldn’t have surrendered to the homosexual mafia. The same thing is going to happen to Chik-fil-A.”

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I agree 100%.

No doubt whatsoever.

Surrendering is the same as losing. Every single time.


41 posted on 04/23/2014 7:34:31 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Rome2000
the decision at the National level has had no impact on his Troop.

I understand how difficult the decision is. At the troop I used to be associated with there also is the appearance that, because no boy claiming to be homosexual has applied to join, nothing has changed. To me, however, the key thing is that the BSA's teaching has changed. The BSA has endorsed the homosexual lifestyle and declared that it is "morally straight." To me this is a major change, because as another poster pointed out, outdoor skills were seconday, the primary mission of the BSA was to build character.

I overheard a scoutmaster puzzling over what to do if a homosexual boys goes on a camping trip. Scout rules say that a boy cannot tent alone. The rules forbid boys and girls from tenting together. What to do? What to do? He said, "Maybe we'll just ask and see who won't mind and put him with him." (!)

Do you wonder if, due to the BSA's new teaching, the boys would be subject to subtle pressure to say they wouldn't object? I know in this scoutmaster's troop, the announcement of the new homosexual acceptance policy was couched in terms of "tolerance," and "non-discrimination." Would your boy be safe in those circumstances? Would he want to stand out as being "intolerant"? Would this scoutmaster tent a seventeen-year old homosexual boy with a tenderfoot who doesn't object because he doesn't even know what homosexuality is.

42 posted on 04/23/2014 7:38:08 PM PDT by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: ronnyquest
"I'm still proud of the Boy Scouts, especially OA members and Eagle Scouts."

Amen, Sir.

My son was both, and his only son was also, but has gone on to be a Boy Scout with a Gun, having graduated from Parris Island in Sept.

The ethics instilled in them will sustain them through their entire lives. What the national leadership has done, under intense pressure, cannot undo that.

43 posted on 04/23/2014 7:40:37 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: T Ruth
There was no dialogue with the kids about this, don't see why it would be necessary to burden them with an announcement, the ones old enough to have heard about it can discuss the issue with their parents if they want.

Our Scoutmasters know better than to even bring it up.

I can guarantee that if an out of the closet homosexual scout was to join, the parents would pull their kids out in a New York minute, and that would be the end of that Troop.

44 posted on 04/23/2014 7:50:59 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: diogenes ghost

Want to know the truth? Since the faggotization of today’s military, I do NOT hold it with the same awe and respect I used to. “Married” homos sharing quarters? Drag-queen festivities on military bases? Sheer degeneracy.


45 posted on 04/23/2014 8:35:40 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Rome2000

As a former Cub Scout, Boy Scout (Troop 288 KC Mo.) Eagle Scout and Osceola Mo. Scout camp staffer for 3 years and former Mic-O-Say tribesman and a contributor— I just walked away this last year. The PC cancer will only get worse. Make no mistake ... NAMBLA is keen to be an involved “hands on” national sponsor of the Boy Scouts. The BSA broke my heart and they will never get another freakin’ dime from me. It just makes me sick that they chose to be sick.....


46 posted on 04/23/2014 8:40:17 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (It's not racism..... it's probability, actuarial tables, statistics. Facts are stubborn things.)
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To: diogenes ghost
I hope you also view the US military in the same light.

In the military's defense, they did not vote those policies in - they were ordered by the DoD at the insistence of their CiC.

47 posted on 04/23/2014 8:52:30 PM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: DoughtyOne
F anyone who wants to trash the scouts for standing up for what is right

What/how/when did they stand up for what is right?

48 posted on 04/23/2014 8:57:54 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture)
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To: T Ruth

BSA = homo agenda.

They are dead to me.


49 posted on 04/23/2014 10:42:49 PM PDT by glock rocks (If you like your health plan, you're a racist !)
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To: T Ruth

As they take the slip ‘n slide to Gomorrah, the support decreases.

What a surprise.


50 posted on 04/24/2014 2:14:58 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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