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The Rand Paul Abortion Fiasco [March 21, 2013]
Caffeinated Thoughts ^ | March 21, 2013 | Shane Vander Hart

Posted on 04/23/2014 7:30:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) appears to be a double-minded man on abortion.  How he can last week be the primary sponsor for a Life at Conception bill and then the following week tell CNN in an interview that there are “thousands of exceptions” is beyond me.  The Hill reports:

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Tuesday he’s open to “thousands of exceptions” to a ban on abortion.

Paul has said he believes life begins at conception, but in an interview with CNN the Republican emphasized he is also a physician who treats each case individually.

“What I would say is that there are thousands of exceptions,” Paul told CNN host Wolf Blitzer in response to a question about exceptions to a ban.

“You know, I’m a physician and every individual case is going to be different and everything’s going to be particular to that individual case and what’s going on with that mother and the medical circumstances of that mother,” he said.

The comments come just a week after Paul, a possible White House contender in 2016, introduced the “Life at Conception Act.”

I will state for the record.  If you believe in “thousands of exceptions” you are not prolife.  If you believe that life begins at conception and believe in ANY exceptions other than perhaps the life of the mother then there is something seriously flawed with your worldview.  Some say he was taken out of context, but even so, it was not a well-thought out statement. It was politically flawed.  It made him look like a flip-flopper.

So Senator Paul likely just took a huge step backwards with Iowa’s social conservatives and this is just after I gave him props for looking like he was well-positioned for the 2016 Iowa Caucus.

Scott Conroy at Real Clear Politics quotes me about Senator Paul’s upcoming trip to Iowa:

Shane Vander Hart, editor-in-chief and founder of the Iowa-based Christian conservative news and commentary site Caffeinated Thoughts, noted that Paul’s support among Republicans in the state already extended beyond the network that his father had constructed.

“He has a great base of grassroots activists to build on, so I believe he will have an advantage coming into Iowa,” Vander Hart said. “I believe he has the ability to build a bridge with social conservatives that his dad could not quite accomplish in 2008 or 2012.”

I was given some grief over this by the new Iowa political satire site – Iowa Gif-t Shop which was linked at the top of The BeanWalker last night:

This comes days after Iowa Christian conservative blogger Shane Vander Hart said this:

….

Shane Vander Hart was all like:

Well yeah, kinda.  A prophet I am not.  Contrary to what the author of Iowa Gif-t shop thinks, I talked with Scott Conroy before this news broke it was just published after.  Obviously I would have said something different had this news come out before.  I also want to be clear that my comments to Conroy are not to be construed as an endorsement anyway.  I just thought he was positioned well.

But hey some people are good at snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.  Senator Paul you shot yourself in the foot, especially since you committed the *unpardonable sin* of making me look bad.  Can’t have that :).


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: longknivesareout; paultards; rand; randisathreat; randisprolife; randpaul; turdclose2bull

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1 posted on 04/23/2014 7:30:23 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul is looking more and more like the Loser Mitt Romney.


2 posted on 04/23/2014 7:30:57 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

The reference to James 1:8 could never be more appropriate.


3 posted on 04/23/2014 7:32:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SoConPubbie

Does the left have something on all Republicans?


4 posted on 04/23/2014 7:32:28 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand Paul is out of contention in my book.


5 posted on 04/23/2014 7:34:42 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: SoConPubbie

The author of this hit piece is a Huffington Post columnist:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/shane-vander-hart/


6 posted on 04/23/2014 7:42:53 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: bramps
Does the left have something on all Republicans?

You mean like, their political positions?

7 posted on 04/23/2014 7:45:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Olog-hai

Rand Paul Introduces ‘Life at Conception Act’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/15/rand-paul-introduces-life-at-conception-act/


8 posted on 04/23/2014 7:54:46 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: SoConPubbie

He is his father’s ... protege.


9 posted on 04/23/2014 7:57:25 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s a really sad day when you wake up and realize that your favorite Kentucky Senator is named Mitch.
Uggh....


10 posted on 04/23/2014 8:13:49 PM PDT by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) appears to be a double-minded man on abortion. How he can last week be the primary sponsor for a Life at Conception bill and then the following week tell CNN in an interview that there are “thousands of exceptions” is beyond me. The Hill reports:

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Tuesday he’s open to “thousands of exceptions” to a ban on abortion.

Paul has said he believes life begins at conception, but in an interview with CNN the Republican emphasized he is also a physician who treats each case individually.

“What I would say is that there are thousands of exceptions,” Paul told CNN host Wolf Blitzer in response to a question about exceptions to a ban.

“You know, I’m a physician and every individual case is going to be different and everything’s going to be particular to that individual case and what’s going on with that mother and the medical circumstances of that mother,” he said.

The comments come just a week after Paul, a possible White House contender in 2016, introduced the “Life at Conception Act.”


11 posted on 04/23/2014 8:22:20 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
The author of this hit piece is a Huffington Post columnist:

And yet, as the words and actions of Rand Paul this last week prove, the article is not a hit piece but a pretty accurate piece of reporting on Rand Paul concerning his evolving positions on moral/social issues.

With each passing day, Rand Paul makes it more and more clear that he is more GOP-E than Tea-Party.

More Mitt Romney than Ted Cruz.
12 posted on 04/23/2014 8:33:05 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Is it just Rand Paul haters or all the ignorant posters were just faster than me?

Rand Paul is PRO LIFE, PERIOD! Got it? Why do you people believe these smears so easily? Hatred or ignorance is my best guess.

I guess you have to have an above moron IQ to understand Rand. He speaks intelligently, so you have to be intelligent to understand him. He doesn’t talk in sound bites. He has well thought out opinions and can speak intelligently on most issues.

Immigration for instance. He has a well thought out plan, not sound bites. His ignorant haters just yell “Amnesty!”

Abortion. He was speaking as a DOCTOR. It was from a doctor patient perspective. One on one. That there theoretically could be a thousand exceptions since a doctor could have a thousand patients and each ONE would get PERSONAL doctor to patient care. Ignorant haters yell “flip flopper”.

Ron Paul. Yes, Ron is his dad. I’m sure Rand loves his father very much. I doubt that he is willing to throw him under the bus for positions where they differ. Rand Paul is NOT his father, yet ignorant haters yell “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” (lol, lol) or “he’s a chip off the old blockhead” (lol, lol) or “He’s his father’s protégé” (lol, lol).

GOPe. Not really. He is a sitting U.S. (Republican) Senator. Establishment? I guess by definition, that would be correct, but hardly your typical GOPe guy. HARDLY a Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, or John Boner.

There is no political party named the “Tea Party”. The “Tea Party” is a movement. It’s the VOTERS who make up the “Tea Party”, not the candidates. Last I heard, all the “so called” tea party candidates were actually all Republicans.


13 posted on 04/23/2014 9:59:13 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman
Is it just Rand Paul haters or all the ignorant posters were just faster than me?

Rand Paul is PRO LIFE, PERIOD! Got it? Why do you people believe these smears so easily? Hatred or ignorance is my best guess.


Yea, how dare we post articles that use Rand Paul's own words that shows he has a forked tongue on this issue and speaks out of both sides of his mouth just like Mitt Romney.

How Dare we post the truth!!!

You need to stamp your feet a little more, it might give your re-write of the truth and history a little more emphasis.
14 posted on 04/24/2014 1:48:09 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: ansel12

but in an interview with CNN the Republican emphasized he is also a physician who treats each case individually.
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Rand Paul is an Opthomologist, not an OB/GYN, like his dad.

I don’t think his knowledge of eyes translates to the other regions of physiology of the human body.

This guy is burning bridges before he comes to them, not after he’s crossed them. ...He’s a loser to Conservatives.


15 posted on 04/24/2014 3:46:27 AM PDT by octex
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