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The Sacrilegious Sarah Palin
The American Conservative ^ | 4-27-14 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 04/30/2014 8:13:49 AM PDT by Flame Retardant

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To: Mrs. Don-o

The guy is a nutcase, and worked for Mondale.

“”Amy Sullivan of Time magazine and Rod Dreher of The Dallas Morning News examine the growing appeal of Mike Huckabee and Barack Obama.””
http://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/1194817109967/bloggingheads-politics-as-unusual.html


The Conservative Obama
By ROD DREHER • August 22, 2012, 1:05 PM

Noah Millman observes that by most measures, Barack Obama is a conservative. Excerpt: **In the core areas of policy, the goal of the Obama Administration has been the preservation of the status quo, and where the Obama Administration has sought to move longstanding Democratic priorities, it has generally done so with an eye to minimally disturbing existing economic and political arrangements.**

I think this is basically right, and this is why I have such a difficult time getting worked up about Obama. A conservative friend said to me the other day that if Obama was re-elected, “we might lose America.” He was totally serious. I don’t get this at all. I would much rather have Obama running US foreign policy than Mitt Romney. On the economy, with regard to the outsize power of the banks, Obama has been too Republican.””


221 posted on 05/02/2014 11:57:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
Worked for Mondale in 1984 --- when he was 17?

Tell you what, ansel12. I think you should investigate select FReepers and see where they were at at age 17, provided it was 30 more more years ago. What fun you could have, identifying nutcase liberals.

Have a nice--- or at least, a busy --- day.

222 posted on 05/03/2014 6:27:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You love the guy, well here he is, sharing some brilliant insight that you admire so much.

Why I’m Not Returning To Catholicism
By ROD DREHER • September 30, 2013
that the primary reason I’m not a candidate for returning to Rome is because I simply do not believe Catholic doctrine any longer. If I had the essay to write over, I would have added these lines:

“”To be sure, the primary reason I’m not for turning back to Rome is because I do not believe Catholic doctrine any longer. Even if I thought Francis was the second coming of John the Baptist, I couldn’t rejoin a church in whose ecclesiological claims I have ceased to believe. The point here is simply that the aspect of Francis’s papal ministry that the world sees as a feature is, for people like me, a bug.””


224 posted on 05/03/2014 11:53:46 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: lentulusgracchus

If you look at the more recent posts on this thread, you will see that you are correct, he is liberal, and has hated Palin from the beginning, leans Obama, and doesn’t vote republican.

He thinks Obama is too “conservative” and too “republican” in some areas, and of course a conservative like Palin, is off the charts to a liberal like him.

From Mondale to Obama.


225 posted on 05/03/2014 11:55:03 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
"deliberately ignore" ---oh my, ansel12 -- you are quick to judge the very thing you cannot know, which is my interior disposition.

In your case, I do not attribute anything to intentional dishonesty or malice, because I think you may be quite unaware.

Yhis is the end of the conversation as far as I am concerned. I have been out all day, I am weary, and I do not care to spend any more time on this wearying expense of the spirit.

Peace to you.

226 posted on 05/03/2014 2:28:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Wow, you are something. You even ignored his rejection of the Catholic religious teachings and his leaving the Catholic denomination. You must really, really, dislike Palin to embrace this guy and his opinions so completely.

“”Amy Sullivan of Time magazine and Rod Dreher of The Dallas Morning News examine the growing appeal of Mike Huckabee and Barack Obama.””
http://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/1194817109967/bloggingheads-politics-as-unusual.html

The Conservative Obama
By ROD DREHER • August 22, 2012, 1:05 PM
Noah Millman observes that by most measures, Barack Obama is a conservative. Excerpt: **In the core areas of policy, the goal of the Obama Administration has been the preservation of the status quo, and where the Obama Administration has sought to move longstanding Democratic priorities, it has generally done so with an eye to minimally disturbing existing economic and political arrangements.**

I think this is basically right, and this is why I have such a difficult time getting worked up about Obama. A conservative friend said to me the other day that if Obama was re-elected, “we might lose America.” He was totally serious. I don’t get this at all. I would much rather have Obama running US foreign policy than Mitt Romney. On the economy, with regard to the outsize power of the banks, Obama has been too Republican.””


227 posted on 05/03/2014 2:50:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: ansel12
"You even ignored his rejection of the Catholic religious teachings and his leaving the Catholic denomination."

A non-sequitur. This has nothing to do with the question at hand. The question I took up with you was whether Dreher is a nutcase liberal. He is not; and it has nothing to do with the fact that he went from Baptist to Catholic to Orthodox. I have in fact taken this up with him personally, which is, I suspect, a great deal more than you have done.

"You must really, really, dislike Palin to embrace this guy and his opinions so completely."

Your statements are unfactual.

For the first, you are imputing attitudes to me that I do not hold. Palin is the only, singular, candidate I have voted for warmly and with pleasure in the past 6 years.

For the second, I do not embrace Rod's views completely, nor do I reject them completely.

I do defend him from the charge that he is a "nutjob liberal". It would be slanderous if it were not eye-rollingly ridiculous. You do yourself no credit for pushing such nonsense.

You would be much more convincing if you would argue principles, platforms, and policies rather than personalities. But if "ad-hominem" is your preferred mode, have at it: but leave me out of it.

I really don't wish to hear from you again.

228 posted on 05/03/2014 4:03:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Her eyes, opening, looked as if they would keep on enlarging until they turned her wrongsideout. ")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The question I took up with you was whether Dreher is a nutcase liberal.

Actually you haven't, you have evaded and ignored everything that I have posted regarding his nutty pro-Obama, anti-Republican, anti-conservative politics.

For instance, your childish evasion of post 221.

The guy is a nutcase liberal, that is how he can write so favorably about Obama, and attack him as "too republican".

229 posted on 05/03/2014 4:36:41 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: EveningStar
Flame Retardant didn't just start posting with this thread. He has been posting since 4/21. Prior to starting this thread, he had made about 25 posts. And he really doesn't look like a troll in those posts.

He has already been zotted, so, it looks like he was a troll.

230 posted on 05/10/2014 10:23:50 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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