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Police: Montana Man Laid Trap, Killed Teen
Newser ^ | 4/30/14 | Matt Cantor

Posted on 04/30/2014 10:01:39 AM PDT by Impala64ssa

A Montana couple frustrated by recent thefts allegedly set a trap for potential burglars—and upon hearing a would-be intruder after midnight on Sunday, the husband fired four shots into the darkness, he says. Now, Markus Kaarma of Missoula has been charged in the death of German exchange student Diren Dede, 17, who was hit by bullets in the head and arm, the AP reports. The couple had set up sensors and cameras around their garage, whose door they left open; Kaarma's wife, Janelle Pflager, left her purse there "so they would take it," she said, per court documents. She reportedly told police the couple had been robbed twice in three weeks.

Documents say Kaarma, 29, told a hairstylist last Wednesday that he'd been waiting three days for another burglary, shotgun at the ready, the Washington Post reports. "I’m just waiting to shoot some [obscenity] kid," he allegedly told the stylist at Great Clips, which ended up calling police over his profane language and unruly behavior, Raw Story reports. Kaarma was yesterday charged with one count of felony deliberate homicide; it's unclear why Diren was in the garage. Billings, Mont., saw a similar shooting hours before Missoula's: A homeowner shot a seminary student described as a "house guest" who was making a call in the garage. The student is expected to survive.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: banglist; burglar; castlelaw; diren; kaarma
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Kaarma, interesting name in this case. Though, he should've set the trap and kept his mouth shut. I say the Kaarmas should sue the parents of this "student" for emotional stress. If Kaarma is convicted, does this mean that posting "no trespassing" signs constitute premeditation?
1 posted on 04/30/2014 10:01:39 AM PDT by Impala64ssa
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it's unclear why Diren was in the garage

Allow me to explain. He was a thief.
2 posted on 04/30/2014 10:03:48 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Impala64ssa

these charges are crazy


3 posted on 04/30/2014 10:03:58 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Impala64ssa

The criminals are now in charge of society - literally.


4 posted on 04/30/2014 10:04:20 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Impala64ssa

German, huh? Yeah, RIGHT.


5 posted on 04/30/2014 10:04:33 AM PDT by gaijin
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“kept his mouth shut”

Yep. Just stick with. “I went into the garage and there was an intruder.”


6 posted on 04/30/2014 10:05:37 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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By saying exchange student the writer implies that the shooter shot someone who lives in his home. But that’s not the case.

So what was the exchange student looking to exchange in someone else’s garage.


7 posted on 04/30/2014 10:07:34 AM PDT by samtheman
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Yep. Just stick with. “I went into the garage and there was an intruder.”


Sadly, people don’t really think this stuff through until it’s too late.

If you set a trap, you’re guilty. Or, more precisely, if they can prove in a court of law that you set a trap...


8 posted on 04/30/2014 10:07:43 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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He was, but you still shouldn’t be laying traps for people. That has virtually always been forbidden, in any law.


9 posted on 04/30/2014 10:08:05 AM PDT by livius
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He's a Turkish invader of Germany.

These are the people who deal drugs, shoplift, apply for all manner of public benefits, and then say thanks by beating up your blond kid if he has committed the horrible crime of not being a Muslim.

These are the people who stabbed Theo Van Goeghe in the heart --literally (after shooting him five times on his bicycle).

10 posted on 04/30/2014 10:08:15 AM PDT by gaijin
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So he waited with a shotgun, and the thief was "hit by bullets"? Great piece of journalism there!

Today's media a-holes are beyond being embarrassed by their own stupidity.

11 posted on 04/30/2014 10:08:18 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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buying a gun for home defense is premeditation?

Is this the same court that gave a child molester 30 days?


12 posted on 04/30/2014 10:09:47 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: cuban leaf

Running his mouth at the hairdresser isn’t a good idea either.


13 posted on 04/30/2014 10:09:49 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: livius

Yet they use bait cars all the time


14 posted on 04/30/2014 10:09:50 AM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: Jewbacca

I don’t know. If I was a burglar, I’d be thinking twice now about robbing a place. The citizens are up in arms now, and laying in wait. What burglar is going to want to chance getting blown away by an armed citizenry. So they may go to jail. Dead is still dead, and the burglar will be dead even if the victim ends up in jail. Now, let me see, dead vs. jail. I’d rather not be dead.


15 posted on 04/30/2014 10:10:48 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Oppressors can tyranize only w/a standing army-enslaved press-disarmed populace)
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The dead perp


16 posted on 04/30/2014 10:11:30 AM PDT by DannyTN
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I’m trying to muster up some sympathy for the deceased here, but it’s just not working. In fact this stupid grin seems to be all I’m capable of.


17 posted on 04/30/2014 10:11:44 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (Pitch black is the new "transparent.")
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To: cuban leaf

do you own a gun? do you plan to stop any home invasion with it? If yes - you have set a trap


18 posted on 04/30/2014 10:11:53 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Impala64ssa
The self appointed executioner


19 posted on 04/30/2014 10:12:00 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Impala64ssa

Horse pucky. They deliberately set up an entire situation for the express purpose of luring and killing another person. Hang the bastard. This is not self defense or even defense of property. This kind of lunacy does great harm to the cause of those of us who are trying to preserve and defend the second amendment.


20 posted on 04/30/2014 10:12:45 AM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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