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Film on '85 MOVE disaster comes to TV
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | 05/12/2014 | Ellen Gray

Posted on 05/12/2014 4:03:41 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

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To: P.O.E.; Kid Shelleen; fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; ...

“...I remember when this happened. Am I really that old?...”

Hey, I was 24 when it happened - you’re not so old!! Ha!

For the sake of those that don’t remember what happened -

Philadelphia’s first black Democrat Mayor “Wee Willie Wilson” Goode ordered the actual FIREBOMBING of a bunkered-up house full of subversive “Back To Africa” black radicals known as “MOVE”.

They had been harassing and threatening neighbors, had rats and other vermin overrunning their house, which they’d barricaded and equipped with loudspeakers; they used the loudspeakers to harangue the neighbors and anyone who passed by with threats and complete nonsense - at ALL hours of the day and night.

The city went after them to evict them, as I believe they were squatting on a condemned property. The cops came to evict them, the MOVE members started shooting, and they killed Officer Jim Ramp.

The police used an air-delivered explosive (by helicopter) to try and gain entry through the roof, but the roof caught fire, and it went up like a dry forest.

The resulting fire burned down a couple of city blocks of houses in a black neighborhood.

And the cost for rebuilding those homes went skyrocketing way beyond what they were originally worth (other than the fact that people lost everything they had for no other reason than they lived near these freaks).

That’s how I remember it, at any rate.


61 posted on 05/13/2014 5:07:09 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jack Hammer

No, the Mayor was black Democrat Wilson Goode, not Frank Rizzo.


62 posted on 05/13/2014 5:10:42 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: kvanbrunt2

“yes no one, philly didn’t own a chopper. it was the feds.”

So Reagan did it. I knew there had to be a reason to dig this up.


63 posted on 05/13/2014 5:10:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: NFHale

The movie will use Rizzo. It’s more believable.


64 posted on 05/13/2014 5:12:03 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Albion Wilde

Please enlighten me-what is factually wrong in that article?


65 posted on 05/13/2014 5:21:57 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: AppyPappy

Ha! You may be right...

I liked Frank. He was a Dem, but he wasn’t a communist POS.

Check out the spin on him here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Rizzo


66 posted on 05/13/2014 7:17:27 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Your memory is better than mine :-)


67 posted on 05/13/2014 12:49:24 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: kvanbrunt2

Yes, Wilson Goode; I’m giving away my age when I mention Mayor Rizzo....


68 posted on 05/13/2014 12:56:23 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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69 posted on 05/13/2014 12:56:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jack Hammer

Well, I just think it’s only “fair” that make sure it’s known that it was a black liberal Democrat mayor that dropped a bomb on black radicals that were probably democrats as well.

If it was a white conservative Republican that dropped an airborne bomb on an American street, we’d STILL be listening to the leftards whine about it.

Fair is fair, you know...


70 posted on 05/13/2014 3:07:36 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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It doesn’t matter if they were Black Panthers or hardened criminals.....they were surrounded and did not need to be burned out.

Just because this is a leftist group does not mean they deserved to be burned alive.

Surrounding the place and starving them out would have worked just fine.


71 posted on 05/13/2014 3:40:00 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Kid Shelleen

I saw this happen. I was riding the Wycombe D bus a couple of blocks away. By the time I got home in Delaware County, the sky to the east looked as if Philly was in a battle and being bombed.


72 posted on 05/13/2014 6:48:15 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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I actually saw something drop from a helicopter while I was on the D bus.


73 posted on 05/13/2014 6:49:32 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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To: NFHale

Very true - good insight.


74 posted on 05/13/2014 9:22:22 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

We jus GOTS ta be’s fair...


75 posted on 05/14/2014 10:25:31 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Jack Hammer

ok i was a freshman in college when he was elected... 17


76 posted on 05/23/2014 11:01:06 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Smokin' Joe

are you from philly. id like to review your comments later. i remember the news footage, which i think was unstaged as the news had the cameras and the guys that dropped the bombs or whatever were amateurs. the news footage at the time was pretty clear and repeatedly showed the helicopter starting sumtin.


77 posted on 05/23/2014 11:08:55 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: kvanbrunt2
Nope, not from PA. I recall the matter came up when Randy Weaver was being besieged.

I saw videotape taken by a 'local' during that siege, and MOVE was mentioned in the commentary while showing footage of a dark colored helicopter carrying a 55 gallon drum slung beneath it.

The person doing the commentary mentioned it might be an incendiary device like the one used on MOVE.

I did more digging, and found out about the Philly incident.

Keep in mind the tape I saw was a copy of a copy of a copy, and the commenter was likely a white separatist or white supremacist by the rhetoric, so I found it odd that they were sympathetic toward a primarily black inner city group.

While I have never been aligned with any white separatist or supremacist group, I was interested in what was going on at Ruby Ridge and had the opportunity to see the tape.

Looking back at the MOVE incident, most of what is currently available on the incident appears to have the official 'sanitized for your protection' seal of approval. Video is limited, news accounts rely on official information, etc.

Similar reporting on Waco could be found on CNN, and would have you think armed brigands bushwhacked the ATF, when in fact, the ATF there came in spoiling for a fight and attacked the facilities there at Mt. Carmel. The Ruby Ridge incident was similarly sanitized in the mass media, at least until Randy Weaver went to court and won.

78 posted on 05/24/2014 7:25:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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