Who, What, Why: Could Boris Johnson be UK PM and then US president? (US born, no US parent)

In view of the muckmuddle surrounding the "Natural Born Citizen" issue, I humbly suggest we choose our next few POTUS(es)(i?) the way they choose the Dalai Lama of Tibet.

We send out monks to every country on the globe and look for secret signs and markers on the body of the candidates, and then ask them secret ritual questions.

For example, right now I am sure there is a 12-year old Yamomama maiden living deep in the jungles of Peru who looks to be a perfect Presidential candidate for 2048. I saw this in a mystic vision. As you know, mystic visions and feelings trump the Constitution, which was written by white men, some of whom owned slaves, who didn't even have iPhones, and did not produce the required Spanish version.

I will be busy preparing for Davis Cup and cannot serve on the team checking the kid out.Cover for me Lucy and Carp, FW take notes.

“On the other hand, a 17 year old American girl gives birth out of wedlock. The father is an eighteen year old American boy. Both of the new parents are attending the American school (Dhahran High School) in Dhahran.”

If this happened while the girl was in country, the parents would have shipped the girl to the States and the baby would not have been born to an unmarried high school student in the Dhahran hospital. Way too many problems for an unmarried woman to have a child in Saudi Arabia - American or not. Saudi-Aramco Dhahran hospital or not.

In this case, residency status doesn’t matter. The girl has a US Passport and the boy has a US Passport.

I worked for Aramco for 10 years in the 80’s & early 90’s and other contracts in Saudi for another 6 years. I’ve seen this happen.

However, if an American woman-dependent of an American Aramco employee gave birth in the Dhahran or any other Saudi hospital (knew many), the father took the baby’s locally-issued birth certificate to the US consulate along with a picture of the baby (passport-sized approved), the father’s passport, and he was issued a US passport for their new bambino.

This is the same process that would have been followed, with the same results, even in your scenario.

American citizen at birth via congressionally-passed naturalization law. They could have flown back to the States the next day and Immigration wouldn’t have given the baby a second thought.

Can’t be natural born, because the child wasn’t born in the US or on a military base (which isn’t really considered US territory). If, however, the child was born in the US Consulate in Dhahran, that IS considerd US territory and the child would probably be considered a natural born citizen.

Birth on U.S. Military Base Outside of the United States or Birth on U.S. Embassy or Consulate Premises Abroad:
(1) Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities abroad are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not born in the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.
(2) The status of diplomatic and consular premises arises from the rules of law relating to immunity from the prescriptive and enforcement jurisdiction of the receiving State; the premises are not part of the territory of the United States of America. (See Restatement (Third) of Foreign Relations Law, Vol. 1, Sec. 466, Comment a and c (1987). See also, Persinger v. Iran, 729 F.2d 835 (D.C. Cir. 1984).

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86755.pdf

The law of the land in Title 8, Section 1401 of the U.S. Code of Laws provides for some persons born outside of the United States to be “Citizens of the United States At Birth. There has never been a judicial finding that a “Citizen of the United States At Birth” and a “Natural Born Citizen” aren’t the same thing.

8 USC 1401
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;
(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;
(c) a person born OUTSIDE of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;
(d) a person born OUTSIDE of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
(e) a person born in an OUTLYING POSSESSION of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;
(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;
(g) a person born OUTSIDE the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and
(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

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