D-Day is Dumb Day for Too Many

Townhall.com ^ | June 5, 2014 | Cal Thomas

[jmacusa]

Don’t forget Dresden. To the liberals Dresden was a city of ‘’no military importance(a lie) and the RAF and the USAAF fire bombed it unmercifully ‘’ killing hundreds of thousands’’(another lie, total casualties were less than 30,000.)

[jmacusa]

May I suggest Cornelius Ryan's excellent "The Longest Day''. Ambrose drew quite a bit on this tome.

[Dilbert San Diego]

Yes, can’t forget the bombing of Dresden.

Yes, liberals have said that it was not a real military target.

Interesting how hindsight is 20/20, decades after decisions have been made in war, with certain people saying we should not have done this or that.

[jmacusa]

Read about the exploits of the US Navy destroyer U.S.S. Cory off Omaha Beach. You can do this by reading Cornelius Ryan's excellent book "The Longest Day''. Truth is it wasn't the US Army that won the day off the Normandy coast, it was the US Navy.

[jmacusa]

Jean has a long mustache.

[jmacusa]

Should they have had a chance?

[exit82]

The chair is against the wall.

[TADSLOS]

Of course not. That was merely a figure of speech.

[class8601_nuke]

was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell NO! and it ain’t over now....

[jmacusa]

I've shut up legions of libs whining about Dresden by telling them of Warsaw, Rotterdam and Coventry. And to nail it all home I say to them ‘’Auschwitz’’. Shuts them up every time. A few years back, in honor of members of my family who were WW2 combat vets(all gone now) and for all WW2 vets I vowed to set the record straight any and every time I hear of, read or encounter the slightest bit of revisionist history concerning Americans role/conduct in WW2 very vigorously and unapologectically whenever I encounter it. I damned near once pulled some stupid sop of a liberal woman through the damn phone after she put some article in the local paper about how awful it was that America dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was filled with the usual clap trap about how awful it was that America did this. I said to her, “Would you have preferred that Japan had prevailed? She never wrote to that newspaper again I can tell you.

[jmacusa]

My apologies.

[jmacusa]

The dice are on the carpet.

[TADSLOS]

Thanks, but no apology necessary. It was a fair question. The Germans made their bed with the Nazi Party and paid dearly for it. That being said, many of the German troops and their leaders assigned to Normandy were hardened veterans at that stage in the war. Normandy, to them, leading up to the invasion, was considered a comparitively easy assignment- away from the Eastern Front. They were highly skilled in small unit tactics and used the terrain of the bocage to their maximum advantage until they were attrited by a combination of Allied strength in numbers, some equally skilled troops in some units, logistics and air power.

[Owl558]

You’re obviously correct, any discussion about WWII must rightly focus on that man - this thread being an appropriate venue. My rant is about how so many WWII buffs compare unrelated world and national events to Hitler without fail. Like how to a carpenter, the answer to every problem involves driving a nail.

[jmacusa]

‘Many of the German troops and their leaders assigned to Normandy were hardened veterans..’’ Not entirely. The only really capable German unit stationed in Normandy at the time was the 352nd. Infantry Division which was guarding the stretch of beach that would be code-named Omaha and where most of the causalities of the landing occurred. Other German units in the area, like the 716th. were made up largely of Poles and Russians more or less forced to serve. However I agree with your assessment of the fighting capability of the German army. I have spoken with many WW2 vets who told me to a man ''Them Krauts were tough son's of bitches. They didn't give up until you damn near wiped them all out and even then they still fought you''. But they couldn't have been all that good. We beat 'em Thank God.

[Kodos the Executioner]

Is that you, Mr. Blutarski?

What is your Delta Tau Xi name?

[TADSLOS]

Well, you can be good all day long, but if you don’t have the numbers to replace the fallen, then the outcome is problematic, as the Spartans of Thermopylae can attest.

[dfwgator]

The chair is against the wall.

That was Red Dawn.

[Labyrinthos]

Thanks for the time line. My father landed on Utah Beach on 06.06.44. For the life of me, however, I have never been able to figure out how or why an NCO in the Army Air Corp ended up on the Beach on D-Day.

[RobinOfKingston]

Colleges and universities clearly are not teaching what they once did.

The facts up to this point in the article were not college or university level material. At least up to 1965, they were either high school level, or facts that were absorbed by simply being American, not needing to be taught.