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Search teams ARE looking in the right place for missing plane MH370, an independent report confirms
DailyMail UK ^ | June 5th, 2014 11:50am EDT | Freya Noble

Posted on 06/05/2014 10:21:52 PM PDT by blueplum

An independent analysis has confirmed search teams are looking in the right area of the southern Indian Ocean for MH370, a week after it was revealed that pings detected more than 2,000 kilometres off the coast of Perth were not from the missing Malaysia Airlines plane. A new specific underwater search zone of up to 60,000 square kilometres is now being determined after scientists reviewed original data and concluded that the search should still follow the original arc defined by British satellite company Inmarsat. :snip: By going back over the original data and satellite information collected by British company Inmarsat, searchers said they remained confident in a long flight path 'arc' over the southern Indian Ocean holding the key to the plane's location. The 'arc' is based on the seventh and final 'handshake' between the Boeing 777 and satellites on March 8. The ATSB said the independent analysis had confirmed the original arc is still the right place to search. 'At the time MH370 reached this arc...

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KEYWORDS: china; malaysia; mas370; mh370
In related news, (separate link below) the Aussies are looking to contract out the search work:

"The tender documents set a strict timetable, with the contractor required to map 5,000 square kilometres every 25 days or risk having payments withheld. The company will need to have sonar equipment that can work at depths of up to 6,000 metres, and navigate holes, trenches and ridges on the seabed."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/missing-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370-now-australia-outsources-the-daunting-search-for-missing-aircraft-9488603.html

1 posted on 06/05/2014 10:21:52 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Has anyone alerted CNN of this developing story?


2 posted on 06/05/2014 10:30:40 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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To: blueplum

Sorry.....Totally off topic, but I just had to make a post because I can’t stand it any more. I just have to change my tag line before I blow a gasket.


3 posted on 06/05/2014 10:32:03 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: blueplum

Couldn’t they have called on a CSI team to measure the temperature of the water off the Florida keys, and extrapolate where the plane may have gone down?


4 posted on 06/05/2014 10:33:13 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: blueplum

How can they know they are searching the correct location before the wreckage is found?


5 posted on 06/05/2014 10:36:00 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: blueplum

That location in Indian ocean is a long ways from last sighting of the plane in SE-Asia. Why the pilots did not communicate with any air traffic control anywhere in all that time it took for the plane to fly before ditching in waters of Indian Ocean?

Has any one heard of any plane in trouble where pilots kept silent for 2 to 3 hours of flying time?


6 posted on 06/05/2014 10:36:09 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than our Soldiers lost looking for Bergdahl)
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To: clintonh8r

No..Juan Williams is a total Obama hack because Obama is A-A just like him and liberal just like him. He is pretty smart in making convoluted arguments and basically filibuster other guests. When he is on The Five, he talks more than any one else, which is a pretty effective filibuster.

So, no he is not stupid.


7 posted on 06/05/2014 10:38:57 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than our Soldiers lost looking for Bergdahl)
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To: blueplum

The whereabouts of Malaysian flight MH360 and the provenance of one “Barack Hussein Obama” remain two of the most perplexing mysteries of our age.


8 posted on 06/05/2014 10:45:34 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: blueplum
I bet Obama will trade America's whole drone capability to get the one jetliner back.

-PJ

9 posted on 06/05/2014 10:45:45 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Kevin in California

CNN runs thought provoking news, I think that I will be pondering hurricane sexism, for years to come.


10 posted on 06/05/2014 10:45:57 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: blueplum

The plane is not in the damn water. no way.


11 posted on 06/05/2014 10:51:06 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: entropy12

I don’t know. I’m voting for stupid. I remember when so many FReepers were over the moon about saving poor little Juanita when NPR fired his azz. Frankly I wish Ailes would dump him too. I guess they keep him around to shine Hume;s golf shoes....


12 posted on 06/05/2014 10:51:30 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: clintonh8r

Of course his ideas and agenda is stupid. But it requires a genius to defend them and tie everyone around him in knots.


13 posted on 06/05/2014 11:03:21 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than all my fingers and toes.)
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To: blueplum

Those pilots are reading this in Pakistan and laughing their heads off.


14 posted on 06/05/2014 11:05:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Viennacon

The plane is in Waziristan. Why do you think Obummer just unleashed the brain trust of Taliban? Stay out of all tall buildings on November 11th.

Not in the entire history of modern aviation 2 pilots and a crew of 5 have failed to communicate when in trouble. Why did the plane make a 180 degree turn and flew on the only path to evade radar detection?


15 posted on 06/05/2014 11:08:14 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than all my fingers and toes.)
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To: entropy12

It is unprecedented to have no wreckage at this point, not a single floating spork. That plane is on land, and loading up with the Jihadis that Obama just freed.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Muzzy congresscritter Keith Ellison was in on it too.


16 posted on 06/05/2014 11:17:33 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: blueplum

Who is paying for the search of this aircraft?


17 posted on 06/05/2014 11:18:32 PM PDT by miele man
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To: entropy12
Has any one heard of any plane in trouble where pilots kept silent for 2 to 3 hours of flying time?

There was a case in 1999 involving a Learjet which had departed Orlando bound for Dallas. At 1327:18Z, the pilot acknowledged Jacksonville ATC's clearance, "three nine zero bravo alpha." That was the last utterance heard from that airplane. At 1713Z, it dove into a field in South Dakota at nearly supersonic speed.

The NTSB determined that "The probable cause of this accident was incapacitation of the flight crew members as a result of their failure to receive supplemental oxygen following a loss of cabin pressurization, for undetermined reasons."


My stab at an MH370 theory:

Shortly after exiting Malaysian ATC, the captain locked the copilot out of the cockpit and turned left, intending to fly to some destination in the 'stans.

The alarmed copilot turned on his cell phone, which had been turned off prior to departure from Kuala Lumpur (there are records to this effect), hoping to call for help. But there was no service.

The copilot then arranged an assault on the cockpit. At some point, they passed close enough to a cell tower for the copilot's phone to check in. Aha! Service! (Reportedly, there are logs showing his phone checking in). But the copilot was by then too engaged in the struggle to notice.

Sometime later, the pilot, annoyed by repeated attempts to breach the cockpit, decided to subdue the passengers by depressurizing the passenger cabin. He figured the special oxygen supply for the flight crew would keep him alive.

But something went wrong. The depressurization gambit failed. The pilot's oxygen proved insufficient, and he went under along with everybody else.

At this point, the captain had steered the airplane in a southerly direction, intending to evade Indian radar. The autopilot maintained that flight path until the airplane ran out of fuel, and the plane crashed somewhere near where Inmarsat has calculated.

18 posted on 06/05/2014 11:34:45 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ansel12

When you’re done pondering hurricane sexism, you can join Gwyneth Paltrow in her concern that water’s is affected by mean words


19 posted on 06/05/2014 11:35:19 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: coloradan

Simple physics. They know how fast it was traveling and it’s approximate altitude and it’s direction.

Through extrapolation, they can pinpoint the area to look.


20 posted on 06/05/2014 11:36:00 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: clintonh8r

Interestingly enough, he has a conservative son, IIRC, who got treated in a racist manner on Twitter by libs who thought he was 100% white.


21 posted on 06/05/2014 11:38:18 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: clintonh8r

It’s as if bob Becker said, no, someone else go in, I can’t deal

We were jumping out of our seats

The kids found Juan Williams so unreasonable that there was more hey you just gotta see this come in here than I’ve seen since dad watched Sunday NFL And he was hoping for a human channel changer


22 posted on 06/05/2014 11:49:50 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Aria

Monday a PHD was telling me why the microwave is deadly to health, she described an experiment where microwaved water was allowed to cool and then used to water plants, it killed the plants.

Next time I see her, I will introduce her to snopes.


23 posted on 06/06/2014 12:04:05 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: blueplum
BS, it's parked on an airstrip in Pakistan!
24 posted on 06/06/2014 12:27:16 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Kevin in California

they will be salivating for days - weeks even - over who is going to be awarded the search contract.


25 posted on 06/06/2014 1:12:52 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Anyone looking in Pakistan?


26 posted on 06/06/2014 1:25:14 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: entropy12

The reason I feel the plane is not in the ‘stans is because Inmarsat system has at least 4 satellites, covering different world regions with a slight overlap. The Indian Ocean satellite was the only one of the 4 that picked up MH370. Had the plane gone north or west a different satellite would have picked up MH370.


27 posted on 06/06/2014 2:03:34 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

28 posted on 06/06/2014 6:55:12 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: cynwoody

Wasn’t that Payne Stewart’s plane?


29 posted on 06/06/2014 6:56:28 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: blueplum

<>At the time MH370 reached this arc, the aircraft is considered to have exhausted its fuel and to have been descending.<>

They just won’t let loose of that “exhausting its fuel” meme will they???

Who are they trying to kid??? Anyone with a calculator and competent in basic math would conclude otherwise. Do they think we are all stupid???

The plane had 7.5 to 8 hours of fuel per MAS — enough to fly 4000+ miles at 500+mph and reach Australia no matter how fast or slow it flew.

The sands of western Australia as the MH370 flies are only 3580 miles. MH370 had enough fuel onboard to hit each of the Inmarsat arcs on schedule and still reach the coast of Australia at Exmouth. Have they checked the sands of western Australia thoroughly enough or are they too busy trying to empty its tank???

But more importantly why are they avoiding the waters south of Indonesia???

The 6th and 7th Inmarsat arcs passes right through Bandung West Java Indonesia and those friendly waters south of there just east of Christmas Island. The waters there are only a 2795 miles as the MH370 flew.

Are they claiming that it didn’t have enough fuel to make it there???

Why do they keep avoiding the obvious place to ditch a plane and keep pushing the exhausting fuel myth???


30 posted on 06/06/2014 7:11:57 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: cynwoody

That’s pretty close to the way I figure it except that a live pilot would have had to be flying when critical flight adjustments were made — including the turn south, a course adjustment to the east after 3.5 - 4 hours of flight, and putting the plane in the water at the end since it would have still had plenty of fuel to fly.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3161285/posts?page=14#14


31 posted on 06/06/2014 7:29:49 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: miele man

<>Who is paying for the search of this aircraft?<>

Good question especially since the next stage won’t be carried out by government employees on the clock but will require a check to be written to an outside contractor.

Malaysia says that it hasn’t put out a dime for the search and yet they are in charge of the search and they should be paying for it.

So then where is the money coming from???

My suspicion is that the money for the search is coming from Allianz — the insurance carrier for MAS — and going directly to the searchers.


32 posted on 06/06/2014 7:49:51 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: blueplum

Sorry I hijacked your thread last night. I never expected so many responses.


33 posted on 06/06/2014 8:38:43 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: Uncle Chip

Thank you for your reply. I’m amazed to learn Malaysia has not spent any monies. Yes, you’d think they would be the responsible party. I would also think the insurance company would be looking to shift some of the burden to others.


34 posted on 06/06/2014 9:10:39 AM PDT by miele man
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To: entropy12

At first I said the plane was in Pakistan or Iran. But after this length of time the Arabs would have leaked it out. The only place it could be and be kept secret is diego Garcia. The only people that are talking about the Indian Ocean are the folks who know where it really is and they are not going to share with us anytime soon.


35 posted on 06/06/2014 9:20:09 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: miele man

The insurance carrier for MAS is on the hook for what could amount to $2 billion in payouts if the little black boxes are found and culpability points to MAS.

That gives them quite an incentive to want to control the search for those little black boxes.


36 posted on 06/06/2014 10:41:05 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SoFloFreeper
Wasn’t that Payne Stewart’s plane?

Yep.

A more interesting case was Helios Airways Flight 522, from Cyprus to Athens. A maintenance error had left the pressurization system in an invalid state. When the passenger masks deployed as the airplane climbed through 18,000, the crew, who were confused about the meaning of certain indicators, passed out while consulting with the maintenance engineer on the radio. The plane then continued on autopilot for a couple of more hours before running out of fuel and crashing. All 121 were killed.

37 posted on 06/06/2014 11:19:50 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: clintonh8r

No offense taken at all, FRiend. Me casa es tu casa. Vent away! I do :)


38 posted on 06/06/2014 4:35:50 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Uncle Chip

Malaysian authorities want us to believe the missing plane just drifted into the ocean like a petal on the wind with Schubert’s #3 playing in the background. They will be carried kicking and screaming to the final evidence and still call the sky green. In the meantime, the western world tiptoes around the obvious so as not to offend.


39 posted on 06/06/2014 4:58:10 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: ansel12

And almost three months after disappearing, nobody has any idea where this plane is...


40 posted on 06/06/2014 5:03:28 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: cynwoody

So where is the flotsam? Those 350 seat cushions would never sink.


41 posted on 06/06/2014 10:00:28 PM PDT by entropy12 (Harry Reid has killed more good bills passed by House than all my fingers and toes.)
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To: entropy12
Those seat cushions had a good head start. A lot of time elapsed between when the airplane went in and when anybody had any reasoned idea of where it went in.

Check this out: http://theconversation.com/why-locating-mh370-in-the-southern-ocean-is-so-difficult-24699?_ga=1.154497272.1776735163.1402118941

Researchers dropped ten pairs of satellite-tracked buoys into the South Indian Ocean. Each pair started off only 10m apart. "Within days, the buoys within each pair were already at least kilometers apart. Three months later and some of the pairs are now separated by thousands of kilometers."

42 posted on 06/06/2014 10:35:08 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Delta Dawn

Well they do have some idea where it is — along the 7th Inmarsat Arc in the Indian Ocean but that extends for 1000 miles.


43 posted on 06/07/2014 4:33:21 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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MH370: Contractor to be given 300 day deadline to find missing Malaysian plane

https://in.news.yahoo.com/mh370-contractor-given-300-day-deadline-missing-malaysian-055955868.html

Are Australian authorities going to dictate the area of search as well???

If so they may be wasting their time.


44 posted on 06/07/2014 5:21:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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The schizophrenic search for MH370 continues:

Most likely crash site of missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 ‘is in stretch of Indian Ocean that is yet to be searched’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2659848/Most-likely-crash-site-missing-Malaysia-Airlines-flight-MH370-stretch-Indian-Ocean-searched.html


45 posted on 06/17/2014 9:53:22 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

That’s funny....We’ll keep lookin’ ‘till we find ‘er! Or maybe we’ll find ‘er and just keep lookin’! That’ll learn ‘em all.

“They” know where it is.


46 posted on 06/19/2014 11:23:45 AM PDT by Jaded (Really? Seriously?)
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To: Jaded

They’re doing everything they can to pin this on the autopilot — or is that Otto the pilot???

From Mr. Ashton at JACC:

“By modelling a flight with a constant speed and a constant heading consistent with the plane being flown by autopilot – the team found one flight path that lined up with all its data.

“We can identify a path that matches exactly with all those frequency measurements and with the timing measurements and lands on the final arc at a particular location, which then gives us a sort of a hotspot area on the final arc where we believe the most likely area is.”

Otto the pilot better get himself a lawyer.


47 posted on 06/19/2014 11:35:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Kevin in California

look for a 2hour special tonight


48 posted on 06/19/2014 11:36:26 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: morphing libertarian

Do you have a link to that 2 hour special???


49 posted on 06/20/2014 10:47:21 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Email Anderson cooper


50 posted on 06/20/2014 10:58:35 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Taliban, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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