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Iraqi Kurds seize Kirkuk as army flees
Hotair ^ | 06/12/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 06/12/2014 7:27:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: ScottinVA

The problem there, is that the government envisioned the new Iraq after US occupation ended as being a strategic counterweight to Iran, as it was in the 1980s. A divided Iraq couldn’t serve that role.


81 posted on 06/12/2014 11:17:29 AM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: JerseyanExile

“The problem there, is that the government envisioned the new Iraq after US occupation ended there as being a strategic counterweight to Iran”

Under Shiite rule, that would never happen for Iraq. If anything, they would be a vassal state to Iran. That was a major flaw in U.S. strategic planning.


82 posted on 06/12/2014 12:05:58 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: jacquej

Nope, you have a pretty good picture of things.


83 posted on 06/12/2014 2:13:34 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Billthedrill
Iran is now involved. It's Al Quds force took back at least part of Tikrit.

Maybe letting Iraq whither on the vine is actually a devious plot by Obama to get even more Muslim countries, tribes, sects, group, clans and families fighting each other. It's been reported that Turkey has shelled ISIS outside of Mosul, which has also been attacked by the Peshmerga of the Kurds.

No. It's the most peaceful the world has ever been, since Obama has been removing America from the world since January 20th, 2009. This is what success looks like to Obama.

84 posted on 06/12/2014 4:00:15 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: RockyTx

Me too, partition and back the Kurds...


85 posted on 06/12/2014 4:27:15 PM PDT by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: Blackyce

Even if ISIS somehow keeps control of the Sunni provinces, they will need resources. Don’t put it past them to with permission through the tribes, to allow foreign entities to operate oilfields. The tribal leaders there are still a force to be reckoned with.


86 posted on 06/12/2014 5:44:56 PM PDT by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: xzins

I believe the Turks will allow some stabilization. They actually get along fairly good with the Kurds and do a LOT of business in Erbil. Don’t forget, this is also blowing up in the Turks faces, since they also supported ISIS. They may have thought they were only going to operate in Syria. Now things are different...We shall see.


87 posted on 06/12/2014 5:47:51 PM PDT by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: sandboxshooter

Listened to a Kurdish (Iraqi) colonel a year ago, and it was obvious that the man was all in for the KURDS. He was sharp, too.


88 posted on 06/12/2014 5:54:03 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Those guys are very patriotic for their homeland...over Iraq.


89 posted on 06/12/2014 6:29:23 PM PDT by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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I’d prefer they had their own homeland, because I think they’d be a force for stability. They are Sunnis, the Kurds, but they’ve been downtrodden so long that it would take a few generations, I think, before Islam corrupted their new nation if they were to get one.


90 posted on 06/13/2014 4:43:32 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: PGR88
Russia supplying supplies to Ukraine rebels...so there will be war there...war in Iraq...war in Pakistan and Afghanistan....Mexico will flood our borders and we will have no border whatsoever....troops will be sent....then we have Brazil and Columbia and Venezuala in uproar...

WW3 is here....large countries will take over large areas without any hinderance....

America will sit while our prez smokes and does the dirty deed and then golfs....

91 posted on 06/13/2014 2:53:16 PM PDT by cherry
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