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Rand Paul denies he's pro-amnesty
WND ^ | June 12 2014 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/12/2014 12:28:44 PM PDT by PoloSec

NEW YORK – The office of Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., has issued a statement to WND firing back against any suggestion that his participation in a conference call Wednesday held by a group that supports immigration reform indicates he favors amnesty for illegal aliens.

“Sen. Rand Paul never embraced amnesty on the call,” his office stated in an email. “Sen. Paul has never advocated for amnesty in any other forum and he voted against the Senate immigration bill.

-SNIP-

A column by Paul on immigration was published by Breitbart News Thursday morning. Paul writes that he’s “for immigration reform because I am against allowing 12 million more illegal immigrants into our country.”

“If we do nothing, 12 million more illegal immigrants will come. We must be in favor of reform — smart reform that starts with border security,” he says.

Then he states emphatically: “Characterizing that position as ‘amnesty’ is simply untrue.”

Paul says the status quo “is a lawless border.”

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To: tennmountainman

Thanks. I wish I didn’t have to. But until I ride lightning, always a possibillity, I will not let bullshit pass. And I hope more join me in standing up against it


51 posted on 06/12/2014 1:04:51 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: andyk; Norm Lenhart; P-Marlowe; xzins; Jim Robinson
Rand Paul is opposed to abortion in all cases.

Yeah, he falls into the "personally opposed, but..." category that NEARLY ALL PRO-ABORTION POLITICIANS try to hide behind.

That's libertarianism in a nutshell they can claim to oppose something, but will go out of their way to ensure that it continues anyway.

52 posted on 06/12/2014 1:05:32 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Norm Lenhart

We got your back Norm!


53 posted on 06/12/2014 1:05:50 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Cochran And Boss Hogg.)
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To: All

I support comprehensive immigration reform.

1) End all foreign aid to countries south of us who don’t actively oppose illegal migration. Well, how about we just end all foreign aid.

2) Build a freaking wall. Use concertina wire.

3) Fingerprint and identify all illegals.

4) Charge them according to the law. Title 8, Section 1325. They’re all criminals. And, if you take the time to identify them the first time, they’re mostly felons.

5) Give no greencards to anyone residing in the country illegally.

6) There’s probably a lot more crap, but I’m too pissed right now.

:)


54 posted on 06/12/2014 1:06:02 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: wagglebee

There are ‘some’ good points to libertarianism. that is definitely not among them. That one is square under liberal-tarianism.


55 posted on 06/12/2014 1:07:16 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart
They like guns and oppose taxes, aside from that they are leftists.
56 posted on 06/12/2014 1:08:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: tennmountainman

My back is good. I could use coverage a little to the ‘right’ though ;)


57 posted on 06/12/2014 1:08:29 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: wagglebee

Mostly, yup. The proof of it is hard to deny.


58 posted on 06/12/2014 1:09:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: wagglebee

Yeah, I guess you got me. Nice touch pinging Jim.

It’s all the evidence you bring to bear that I just can’t oppose.

And what is conservatism? We really, really don’t want to lift the debt ceiling, but we had no other choice! Waaaah!


59 posted on 06/12/2014 1:09:47 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: PoloSec

Not pro-amnesty, just squishy, i.e., being a normal politician.


60 posted on 06/12/2014 1:10:07 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (The Free World has a new leader--his name is Benjamin Netanyahu)
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To: andyk

So why back a guy against all that?


61 posted on 06/12/2014 1:10:40 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

” - - - Rand Paul is a lying piece of human garbage.

IMO of course. - - - “

MHO agrees with YHO X 10.


62 posted on 06/12/2014 1:11:58 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

LOL. How about this. The majority here stand with you!


63 posted on 06/12/2014 1:12:45 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Cochran And Boss Hogg.)
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To: Gene Eric
Really? I thought the Paul family was Pro-Life?

Rand Paul is pro life for himself and pro choice for everyone else.

His most recent position was the same as Nancy Pelosi's.

Look it up.

64 posted on 06/12/2014 1:13:08 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Graewoulf

YHO is a truly wise HO...HO HO HO!

Try the veal.....I’m here all week ;)


65 posted on 06/12/2014 1:13:17 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: P-Marlowe

I believe you. Thanks.


66 posted on 06/12/2014 1:15:12 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’m just refusing to gratuitously attack him.


67 posted on 06/12/2014 1:15:31 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: tennmountainman

Do I get to scream “DEATH TO LIBERALS”! and all of you fan out carrying out my evil will? Cuz I always wanted to do that ;)

Kidding aside, Much appreciated.

Or was I kidding.....Oh well, If I ever seize supreme power we’ll all find out together ;)


68 posted on 06/12/2014 1:16:03 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: andyk

I’m not gratuitously attacking him. I truly believe, based on his actions that he is human garbage/a POS, call it what you will.

he has multiple examples of turning on his base, siding with RINOs and the left and that is why we are in this mess. People like him. Until we give them the exact ‘respect’ they show us, the problem continues.


69 posted on 06/12/2014 1:18:40 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Gene Eric
PAUL: Well, there’s going to be, like I say, thousands of extraneous situations where the life of the mother is involved and other things that are involved.... So, I would say that each individual case would have to be addressed
70 posted on 06/12/2014 1:19:11 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: wagglebee
They like guns and oppose taxes, aside from that they are leftists.

I am not a leftist.
71 posted on 06/12/2014 1:19:20 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk
So, you agree that the Pauls may "personally oppose" abortion, but have zero interest in ending it?
72 posted on 06/12/2014 1:28:01 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Ted Cruz supports the abuse of the interstate commerce clause. But I won't dump him because of it.

Too many so-called conservatives don't give a whit about the interstate commerce clause as long as its abuse doesn't affect them.

A whole lot of folks now are talking about legalizing pot….And you can make arguments on that issue. You can make reasonable arguments on that issue. The president earlier this past year announced the Department of Justice is going to stop prosecuting certain drug crimes. Didn’t change the law.

So cool, he agrees with Scalia, and is at odds with Thomas. But hey, it doesn't affect me, so who cares?

He would, by extension, have to feel the same way about the prohibition of incandescent light bulbs and high-flow toilets. But, as long as he is true-blue on abortion and immigration, we'll pretend his inconsistencies don't exist.

Now, I love Ted Cruz. But somewhere along the line, we forgot the 11th commandment. Big time.
73 posted on 06/12/2014 1:29:18 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Rand Paul is a lying piece of human garbage.

IMO of course.”
********************************************************************

I’m sorry, I just can’t agree with that.

Now, if you had said that “Rand Paul is a lying piece of human excrement” I could likely agree given his duplicitous promotion of Amnesty while saying he is against it.


74 posted on 06/12/2014 1:30:38 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: wagglebee

I know that I’m ignorant of the subject.

What laws have he voted against that would have restricted or outlawed abortion?

Is there action you’re saying he should have taken that he didn’t? Do you hold other so-called conservatives to the same standard?


75 posted on 06/12/2014 1:33:08 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

If you make an honest reading of Pauls statements,positions, endorsements and the rest, you will see multiple issues. Not one or two. Last month alone he had an orgasm of liberalism with every two days or so bringing with it a very unconservative position/statement.

That is more than one niggling little detail. That is a pattern of unconservative activity.

Now in any other aspect of life...say your kids if you have them. If little Johnny lies to you daily, are you inclined to reward him? How about your wife? Your boss? If you catch your wife with the pool boy planning a getaway, are you apt to buy them tickets to the theater?

No. And likewise, Paul’s pattern of liberal/Rino behavior means he’s about as faithful as a porn chick at a swingers club.


76 posted on 06/12/2014 1:35:23 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: House Atreides

OK the lesser evil crew must have finally broken my will. I am willing to compromise my principles here.

Can we agree that the POS stinks either way? ;)


77 posted on 06/12/2014 1:37:10 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: andyk

I have no idea what he means by “compromise” but no compromise is possible with illegal immigration because it is already past the tipping point. Those supporting amnesty have intentionally let it get this far, any compromise at this point will only allow for amnesty.


78 posted on 06/12/2014 1:48:44 PM PDT by Tammy8
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To: P-Marlowe
FWIW Free Republic is officially Ted Cruz country.

Another foreign born junior Senator with a Harvard law degree?

No thanks.

79 posted on 06/12/2014 1:51:14 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
Another foreign born junior Senator with a Harvard law degree?

LOL that will get the Cruzers hard after ya.

You left out the missus is a Managing Dir @ Goldman Sachs.

80 posted on 06/12/2014 1:56:01 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: andyk; Norm Lenhart; P-Marlowe; xzins; Responsibility2nd; Brian Kopp DPM; narses; Coleus; ...
I know that I’m ignorant of the subject.

Admitting it is generally the toughest part.

What laws have he voted against that would have restricted or outlawed abortion?

He's on record as saying that he basically thinks it's up to the mother.

Is there action you’re saying he should have taken that he didn’t?

You mean other than actually being pro-life? Probably not.

Do you hold other so-called conservatives to the same standard?

A person CANNOT be a conservative without being pro-life. Ask around about me if you like, I hold EVERYONE to this standard. If this wasn't a pro-life forum, I wouldn't be here.

81 posted on 06/12/2014 1:57:05 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: PoloSec

Then he states emphatically: “Characterizing that position as ‘amnesty’ is simply untrue.”


No it’s not. We all know that “reform” is a code word for amnesty, and Paul’s lies to the contrary aren’t fooling anyone (I hope).


82 posted on 06/12/2014 2:01:29 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DwFry

Yeah, notice, he’s only against allowing 12 million MORE into the country. The implication is that he is perfectly fine with the millions already here.


83 posted on 06/12/2014 2:03:29 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Leftists parse. Paul is of the left. Ergo he parses.

Always look at/listen to what they arent saying for the truth of what they are.


84 posted on 06/12/2014 2:05:48 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: randomhero97

“So who is the freerepublic collective candidate for President?”

Hahahaha, that’s a good one. We haven’t even begun to fight and try to get each other zotted over primary candidates yet. Gotta do that first before we can ever hope to get a consensus around here.


85 posted on 06/12/2014 2:06:25 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: PoloSec

Ru Paul doesn’t fall far from the Paultard tree.


86 posted on 06/12/2014 2:09:20 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: wagglebee

andyk sure asks a lot of questions.

He made a very erroneous comment upthread that Rand Paul was 100% anti-abortion. I corrected him in my post 48. He never responded to that but kept on arguing that point.

Now he wants to know if Paul should have taken action but didn’t?

How about this? How about Paul saying he WON’T take action because the country isn’t ready for it?

Axelrod then said, “Well, would you sign or promote a law that would add –“ apparently in reference to restricting abortion.

Paul said, “No. I think where the country is – I think persuasion is part of this. I think where the country is, is somewhere in the middle, that we’re not changing any of the laws until the country is persuaded otherwise.”

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/penny-starr/sen-paul-we-re-not-changing-any-abortion-laws-until-country-persuaded


87 posted on 06/12/2014 2:09:35 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Look at the tree that fruit dropped from. Why would anyone think he doesn’t idolize his father and probably holds all the same views? It’s much more reasonable to think that he does think the same way, but just realized that openly voicing those views would get him stuck in the House forever just like dad.


88 posted on 06/12/2014 2:15:02 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Responsibility2nd

And of course, leaving a loophole to allow any abortion a physician deems necessary essentially leaves abortion on demand completely legal. As we’ve seen with medical marijuana, if you want something bad enough, you can easily find a doctor who will go along with you and help you get it.


89 posted on 06/12/2014 2:17:05 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Norm Lenhart
Normy. You bad, bad person you.

This MUST be all your fault. You were mean to andy....

Opus Delecti
Me | 6/12/2014 | andyk
 

90 posted on 06/12/2014 2:17:17 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Rand Paul is a lying piece of human garbage. IMO of course.

It is mine as well. The pro-amnesty crowd are liberal in many ways. They are in favor of making legal citizens of the hordes who have come here ILLEGALLY and, as we see so very often with liberals, they deny that is what they are for. Call me confused. If something it worth advocating for why isn't it worth being openly honest about it?

To the point of this thread, Rand Paul will never be POTUS. And to that point, I couldn't be happier.

91 posted on 06/12/2014 2:21:24 PM PDT by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Saw that.

On one of the music boards I frequent, there is a 30 YO that uses his supposed liberal approved Aspergers as a hammer to manipulate his way to pity.

Same difference here.


93 posted on 06/12/2014 2:28:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: andyk

*””Rand Paul is opposed to abortion in all cases.””*

No he isn’t, at least according to him, he isn’t.

CNN:
BLITZER: So, just to be precise, if you believe life begins at conception, which I suspect you do believe that, you would have no exceptions for rape, incest, the life of the mother, is that right?

PAUL: Well, I think that once again puts things in too small of a box. What I would say is that there are thousands of exceptions. You know, I’m a physician and every individual case is going to be different, and everything is going to be particular to that individual case and what’s going on with that mother and the medical circumstances of that mother.

I would say that after birth, you know, we’ve decided that when life begins, we have decided that we don’t have exceptions for one- day-old or six-month-olds. We don’t ask where they came from or how they came into being, but it is more complicated because the rest of it depends on the definition of when life comes in. So, I don’t think it’s a simple as checking box and saying exceptions or no exceptions.

And there are a lot of decisions that are made privately by families and their doctors that really won’t — the law won’t apply to, but I think it’s important that we not be flippant one way or the other and pigeon hole and say, oh, this person doesn’t believe in any sort of discussion between family. And so, I don’t know if there’s a simple way to put me in a category on any of that.

BLITZER: Well, it sounds like you believe in some exceptions.

PAUL: Well, there’s going to be, like I say, thousands of extraneous situations where the life of the mother is involved and other things that are involved.

So, I would say that each individual case would have to be addressed and even if there were eventually a change in the law, let’s say, the people came more to my way of thinking, it’s still be a lot of complicated things that the law may not ultimately be able to address in the early stages of pregnancy that would have to be part of what occurs between the physician and the woman and the family.


94 posted on 06/12/2014 2:34:21 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Too late. Andy has left the building. See opus link a couple posts up.


95 posted on 06/12/2014 2:35:58 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: andyk

BLITZER: So, just to be precise, if you believe life begins at conception, which I suspect you do believe that, you would have no exceptions for rape, incest, the life of the mother, is that right?

PAUL: Well, I think that once again puts things in too small of a box. What I would say is that there are thousands of exceptions. You know, I’m a physician and every individual case is going to be different, and everything is going to be particular to that individual case and what’s going on with that mother and the medical circumstances of that mother.


96 posted on 06/12/2014 2:36:05 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

He is still here, his opus was just a lame libertarian complaint, not a zot opus.


97 posted on 06/12/2014 2:38:00 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12

Pathetic.


98 posted on 06/12/2014 2:47:03 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Jane Long
Rand Paul denies he's pro-amnesty.....That's rich! Considering he's been snuggling up to Grover Al-Ahmnesty bin Norquist and Namnesty Bloomberg.

Mmmmmm.....the worm turns. Rand learns fast. The Cantor loss was a rude awakening.

Saw a clip where even Hillary was backtracking amnesty.

ROTFLOL

99 posted on 06/12/2014 3:24:27 PM PDT by Liz
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To: All

Actually we’ve never had a better week for the anti-amnesty argument than (1) Cantor slaughtered by amnesty, and, (2) the endless putrid mass swarming across the border dominating the news.


100 posted on 06/12/2014 3:30:00 PM PDT by Liz
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